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Re: USA & Britain's Armies Divorce

Postby muy_thaiguy on Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:23 pm

notyou2 wrote:Whose leg is the Mann flag modeled on?

Divine.

I'll let you google that one.
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Re: USA & Britain's Armies Divorce

Postby notyou2 on Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:45 pm

No thanks. Probably get a virus.
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Re: USA & Britain's Armies Divorce

Postby mrswdk on Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:06 am

chang50 wrote:Most pundits think China and it's hard to disagree,but they have their own problems for sure.They are exerting a lot of influence over developing countries in Africa especially,ie empire building.Will be interesting to see how the party manages rising domestic expectations and dissent.


Dissent isn't necessarily any higher now than it was in the past. In 1989, 10% of the population of Beijing was out on the streets calling for democracy. Hard to see that happening today.
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Re: USA & Britain's Armies Divorce

Postby fadedpsychosis on Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:22 am

saxitoxin wrote:I think Cameron had a pretty good point in that he said the US is the world's #1 economy and has the #1 defense budget; the UK is the world's #8 economy and has the #4 defense budget.

In FP today it said the final level of the U.S. (active) army after the drawdown is finished is going to be 420,000. If the UK army is 120,000, it appears it's 20% larger than the U.S., adjusted for population. The funding difference, it seems, comes from the UK's reliance on off-the-shelf weapons while the U.S. insists on custom-everything. The U.S.' insistence on custom weapons requires a base of foreign customers to subsidize R&D which is probably the benefit of the NATO standardization process, it creates a stable of forced-customers in Europe. The U.S. has a vested interest in making sure European defense budgets are kept artificially high so that they can maintain their corner on the whole arms market, instead of having to specialize in just a few systems like other big weapons exporters (e.g. Sweden and naval artillery).

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Re: USA & Britain's Armies Divorce

Postby notyou2 on Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:40 pm

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saxitoxin wrote:I think Cameron had a pretty good point in that he said the US is the world's #1 economy and has the #1 defense budget; the UK is the world's #8 economy and has the #4 defense budget.

In FP today it said the final level of the U.S. (active) army after the drawdown is finished is going to be 420,000. If the UK army is 120,000, it appears it's 20% larger than the U.S., adjusted for population. The funding difference, it seems, comes from the UK's reliance on off-the-shelf weapons while the U.S. insists on custom-everything. The U.S.' insistence on custom weapons requires a base of foreign customers to subsidize R&D which is probably the benefit of the NATO standardization process, it creates a stable of forced-customers in Europe. The U.S. has a vested interest in making sure European defense budgets are kept artificially high so that they can maintain their corner on the whole arms market, instead of having to specialize in just a few systems like other big weapons exporters (e.g. Sweden and naval artillery).

if you think NATO is or has standard ANYTHING, try working for them...


NATO has standards. For example the FN rifle. It was the US that wouldn't agree to the standard, all other NATO countries did.
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Re: USA & Britain's Armies Divorce

Postby muy_thaiguy on Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:35 pm

Since the two are getting divorced, who gets custody of of Canada? Or is it partial custody, like visits on weekends?
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Re: USA & Britain's Armies Divorce

Postby mrswdk on Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:50 pm

I heard Canada was being adopted by China.
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Re: USA & Britain's Armies Divorce

Postby _sabotage_ on Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:23 am

Just cuz China's our sugar daddy, don't mean the US and UK are going to stop their booty calls.
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Re: USA & Britain's Armies Divorce

Postby iAmCaffeine on Sun Jan 19, 2014 12:11 pm

I heard France were making a claim for about half of it.
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Re: USA & Britain's Armies Divorce

Postby notyou2 on Sun Jan 19, 2014 12:13 pm

iAmCaffeine wrote:I heard France were making a claim for about half of it.



More like 20% except the Quebecois and the French don't like each other.
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Re: USA & Britain's Armies Divorce

Postby Dukasaur on Mon Jan 20, 2014 4:54 am

Canada will be a protectorate of the Turks and Caicos, once they gain independence.
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Re: USA & Britain's Armies Divorce

Postby jimboston on Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:42 am

saxitoxin wrote:
notyou2 wrote:Is gay marriage legal in Britain?


It's been legal since May 2010.

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Re: USA & Britain's Armies Divorce

Postby iAmCaffeine on Thu Jan 23, 2014 4:40 am

No..
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Re: USA & Britain's Armies Divorce

Postby mrswdk on Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:06 am

I heard the new laws in the UK make it legal for fathers to marry their sons.
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Re: USA & Britain's Armies Divorce

Postby BigBallinStalin on Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:13 pm

saxitoxin wrote:I think Cameron had a pretty good point in that he said the US is the world's #1 economy and has the #1 defense budget; the UK is the world's #8 economy and has the #4 defense budget.

In FP today it said the final level of the U.S. (active) army after the drawdown is finished is going to be 420,000. If the UK army is 120,000, it appears it's 20% larger than the U.S., adjusted for population. The funding difference, it seems, comes from the UK's reliance on off-the-shelf weapons while the U.S. insists on custom-everything. The U.S.' insistence on custom weapons requires a base of foreign customers to subsidize R&D which is probably the benefit of the NATO standardization process, it creates a stable of forced-customers in Europe. The U.S. has a vested interest in making sure European defense budgets are kept artificially high so that they can maintain their corner on the whole arms market, instead of having to specialize in just a few systems like other big weapons exporters (e.g. Sweden and naval artillery).


Why haven't the European NATO members begun specialization--regardless of this US vested interest?

(I don't think that vested interest is strong enough to prevent specialization).
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Re: USA & Britain's Armies Divorce

Postby AndyDufresne on Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:32 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
saxitoxin wrote: instead of having to specialize in just a few systems like other big weapons exporters[/u] (e.g. Sweden and naval artillery).


Why haven't the European NATO members begun specialization--regardless of this US vested interest?

(I don't think that vested interest is strong enough to prevent specialization).

I thought Sweden specialized in meatballs.


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Re: USA & Britain's Armies Divorce

Postby BigBallinStalin on Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:34 pm

They specialize in boarballs.
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