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mrswdk wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:I'm just sick of some US foreign policy analysts babbling about how China's attempts at taking the 'rocks and reefs' is going to lead to a major war because '1930s appeasement' and hurpaderp.
Indeed. Nothing more than hype designed to justify the US regime's attempts to contain China to the American public.
mrswdk wrote:As I said, China is not trying to threaten anyone. You're making the mistake of using your own colonialist frame of reference to analyze a non-colonialist country. The desire to project power across the world and use fear and intimidation to push the world around is just something that Westerners and bananas* do. The mainland is yellow through and through and as such has no such desire to bully the rest of the world. Fear not the lies and disinformation sown by CNN et al.
*yellow on the outside, white on the inside
patches70 wrote:I think the chances that China and Japan have a bit of a fight at some future point is pretty high. So it's always a good idea to start sowing the seeds of justification early. Then when war blooms the ground work has already been long laid as to why China must "defend" itself from Japanese aggression. The Chinese are pretty good at thinking in the long term. It's one of their virtues or strengths I'd say.
BigBallinStalin wrote:patches70 wrote:I think the chances that China and Japan have a bit of a fight at some future point is pretty high. So it's always a good idea to start sowing the seeds of justification early. Then when war blooms the ground work has already been long laid as to why China must "defend" itself from Japanese aggression. The Chinese are pretty good at thinking in the long term. It's one of their virtues or strengths I'd say.
How high?
Would you predict that there's 99% chance that a war between the two would occur within 20 years?
DoomYoshi wrote:mrswdk wrote:As I said, China is not trying to threaten anyone. You're making the mistake of using your own colonialist frame of reference to analyze a non-colonialist country. The desire to project power across the world and use fear and intimidation to push the world around is just something that Westerners and bananas* do. The mainland is yellow through and through and as such has no such desire to bully the rest of the world. Fear not the lies and disinformation sown by CNN et al.
*yellow on the outside, white on the inside
What's up with all the Chinese aid to Africa if they are non-colonialist?
mrswdk wrote:Giving aid to African countries is not colonialism.
patches70 wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:patches70 wrote:I think the chances that China and Japan have a bit of a fight at some future point is pretty high. So it's always a good idea to start sowing the seeds of justification early. Then when war blooms the ground work has already been long laid as to why China must "defend" itself from Japanese aggression. The Chinese are pretty good at thinking in the long term. It's one of their virtues or strengths I'd say.
How high?
Would you predict that there's 99% chance that a war between the two would occur within 20 years?
I think there is a near 100% chance they'll fight a war in the future. I just couldn't predict in what time frame.
China and Japan don't like each other very much. And to governments it's never bad policy to keep the people fearing one's perceived enemies. Japan likes to remind everyone of how much a threat China is to them, and China like to remind everyone how much of a threat Japan is to them.
It is what it is. And it works! People keep buying into the rhetoric which probably contains some elements of truth. But it's not really truthful. You catch my drift?
DoomYoshi wrote:mrswdk wrote:Giving aid to African countries is not colonialism.
When you are sending water and food, I would agree. When you are sending military training and weapons, I disagree.
BigBallinStalin wrote:
I don't really understand your overreaction to Chinese-Japanese relations.
Goranz wrote: Are all Chinese that much afraid from Japanese power?
BigBallinStalin wrote:DoomYoshi wrote:mrswdk wrote:Giving aid to African countries is not colonialism.
When you are sending water and food, I would agree. When you are sending military training and weapons, I disagree.
Why? Those kinds of deals with major 'non-governmental' organizations usually come with certain conditions, which are essentially 'colonialistic'--in that they order other countries how to run their shit.
BigBallinStalin wrote:DoomYoshi wrote:mrswdk wrote:Giving aid to African countries is not colonialism.
When you are sending water and food, I would agree. When you are sending military training and weapons, I disagree.
Why? Those kinds of deals with major 'non-governmental' organizations usually come with certain conditions, which are essentially 'colonialistic'--in that they order other countries how to run their shit.
patches70 wrote:It's always a good idea to seed people minds with stories like mrswdk gives
DoomYoshi wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:DoomYoshi wrote:mrswdk wrote:Giving aid to African countries is not colonialism.
When you are sending water and food, I would agree. When you are sending military training and weapons, I disagree.
Why? Those kinds of deals with major 'non-governmental' organizations usually come with certain conditions, which are essentially 'colonialistic'--in that they order other countries how to run their shit.
I don't care enough about my point to disagree with you either.
Metsfanmax wrote:DoomYoshi wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:DoomYoshi wrote:mrswdk wrote:Giving aid to African countries is not colonialism.
When you are sending water and food, I would agree. When you are sending military training and weapons, I disagree.
Why? Those kinds of deals with major 'non-governmental' organizations usually come with certain conditions, which are essentially 'colonialistic'--in that they order other countries how to run their shit.
I don't care enough about my point to disagree with you either.
If you did care enough, you might amend it to say that we should send these supplies only through actors who distribute them directly to the people instead of using the nation's government as an intermediary.
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