How many countries have not been invaded by the British?

[AndyDufresne]

then my answer is that you all agree on it not because it's right but because you have conformed.

Unfortunately, there is excessive amounts of information on what can happen when people follow policies just to conform. As such, demanding I confirm just to conform when there is widely known potential dangers from doing just that is asking me to put myself in a worse position for no good reason.

Wow... okay.

--Andy

[muy_thaiguy]

Country Buffet hasn't. I think. If you did, you guys suck.

[thegreekdog]

Country Buffet hasn't. I think. If you did, you guys suck.

In high school I ate so much at Old Country Buffet that one of my friends needed to drive me home. True story. I haven't been back.

[Trevor33]

There's many countries on that list that i would debate but CANADA? The country with the queen on its currency? Really?

When did the British invade Greece? They invaded Greece in World War II, but only to expel Germany (similar to my argument for Sweden... albeit I don't know if the British actually fough there).

When did the British invade Canada? I know Canadian territories were involved in the War of 1812, but I don't think they were a proper country yet (and I thought the US invaded Canada, not the British invading Canada). Are they counting the Beatles invasion?

[patches70]

There's many countries on that list that i would debate but CANADA? The country with the queen on its currency? Really?

When did the British invade Greece? They invaded Greece in World War II, but only to expel Germany (similar to my argument for Sweden... albeit I don't know if the British actually fough there).

When did the British invade Canada? I know Canadian territories were involved in the War of 1812, but I don't think they were a proper country yet (and I thought the US invaded Canada, not the British invading Canada). Are they counting the Beatles invasion?

How soon we forget the seven years war, most notably the North American theater of that war/series of wars. Otherwise remembered as the French and Indian war. Yeah, Britain invaded French held territories in Canada.

[Dukasaur]

There's many countries on that list that i would debate but CANADA? The country with the queen on its currency? Really?

When did the British invade Greece? They invaded Greece in World War II, but only to expel Germany (similar to my argument for Sweden... albeit I don't know if the British actually fough there).

When did the British invade Canada? I know Canadian territories were involved in the War of 1812, but I don't think they were a proper country yet (and I thought the US invaded Canada, not the British invading Canada). Are they counting the Beatles invasion?

How soon we forget the seven years war, most notably the North American theater of that war/series of wars. Otherwise remembered as the French and Indian war. Yeah, Britain invaded French held territories in Canada.

Thank you. Once again you've saved me the trouble of typing out what I was going to say...

[muy_thaiguy]

What about Country Fried Steak? Or Country Fried Chicken? I demand answers!

[2dimes]

It was not "Canada" until British Invasion and takeover was completed. The map should have been a tip off morans.

[Dukasaur]

It was not "Canada" until British Invasion and takeover was completed. The map should have been a tip off morans.

Actually, it was generally referred to as Canada as far back as 1547. Even though the official name of the French entity was "New France", it was called Canada both on maps and in popular usage.
http://www.pch.gc.ca/eng/1363629314164/1363629390521

[2dimes]

Ok. Now tell us about "buffalo" and "Indians".

[thegreekdog]

How soon we forget the seven years war, most notably the North American theater of that war/series of wars. Otherwise remembered as the French and Indian war. Yeah, Britain invaded French held territories in Canada.

So they invaded France, right? This is what I'm saying! The argument I would make is "England invaded France," not England invaded Canada.

There's many countries on that list that i would debate but CANADA? The country with the queen on its currency? Really?

Dude. Seriously? Canada was a British colony. The British didn't just invade Canada and make them put a picture of the queen on their currency.

[patches70]

semantics aside TGD which is all that you can argue, Sym's assertion of countries invaded by England is geographical. England invaded the land that is now known today as Canada. It doesn't matter that it was held by the French or was known as another name back then, only that geographically it was the land now known as Canada. So thus, at one/some point(s) in history England did invade Canada.
You and some others asked "When did England ever invade Canada?!?!?!" and the answer is obviously the seven years war in the north American theater.

Its pretty straight forward and one is only confused when they try and get all semantic. You're over thinking it is all.

[thegreekdog]

semantics aside TGD which is all that you can argue, Sym's assertion of countries invaded by England is geographical. England invaded the land that is now known today as Canada. It doesn't matter that it was held by the French or was known as another name back then, only that geographically it was the land now known as Canada. So thus, at one/some point(s) in history England did invade Canada.
You and some others asked "When did England ever invade Canada?!?!?!" and the answer is obviously the seven years war in the north American theater.

Its pretty straight forward and one is only confused when they try and get all semantic. You're over thinking it is all.

When the tone of the article is one of general derision (maybe that's too strong a word), I would tend to get semantic. One may look at the map and say "England invaded Greece? Those bastards!" But the Greeks were probably pretty happy that England invaded.

[patches70]

semantics aside TGD which is all that you can argue, Sym's assertion of countries invaded by England is geographical. England invaded the land that is now known today as Canada. It doesn't matter that it was held by the French or was known as another name back then, only that geographically it was the land now known as Canada. So thus, at one/some point(s) in history England did invade Canada.
You and some others asked "When did England ever invade Canada?!?!?!" and the answer is obviously the seven years war in the north American theater.

Its pretty straight forward and one is only confused when they try and get all semantic. You're over thinking it is all.

When the tone of the article is one of general derision (maybe that's too strong a word), I would tend to get semantic. One may look at the map and say "England invaded Greece? Those bastards!" But the Greeks were probably pretty happy that England invaded.

Yeah, well I was addressing your-

When did the British invade Canada? I know Canadian territories were involved in the War of 1812, but I don't think they were a proper country yet (and I thought the US invaded Canada, not the British invading Canada). Are they counting the Beatles invasion?

not Greece. You seem to not be able to grasp that England gained control of what is now known as Canada from the French in the seven years war also known as the French and Indian war in which the result of that war was that France gave up control of New France (today known as "Canada") to the British.
You wondered about the semantics involved in the term "invasion" earlier. I would hope that you would agree that if a nation sends troops into foreign held territory, fights battles against that enemy force where armies are fighting armies, then you would actually define that as a proper invasion.
That's what the seven years war was, the British invaded New France (known today as Canada) and won possession of that territory. By all definitions, that is indeed an invasion. So your question of-

When did the British invade Canada?

is answered, though why you don't seem to understand that and acknowledge "Oh yeah, that's right" is something I can't figure out. You keep babbling on something about Greece or whatever.

Your feeling of the tone of the article is fine, but the inclusion of Canada on that map is right and correct by whatever semantics you wanna try and apply. Your reference the war of 1812, which what is now Canada was an English territory by that time, the British invaded the United States, from Canada. Canada, a territory they had won through invasion and force of arms from the French decades earlier. So the inclusion of the United States is obviously right and proper to be shown on the map as well.

So when you ask-

When did the British invade Canada?

Then you can answer that yourself by simply remembering the French and Indian war and even looking up the facts for yourself. England didn't negotiate a military presence in what is now known as Canada, they did not lease military bases in what is now known as Canada or any other semantical tom foolery you can think of when broadly defining "invasion". The British literally invaded Canada. The put troops on ship, sailed those ships down Canadian rivers and bays, disembarked and fought the those who were holding that territory. The British also marched troops overland into what is now known as Canada and engaged those who were in control of that territory in battle. That is by all definitions an invasion.

As for Greece, you can play your semantic game and you'd have a leg to stand on I suppose. The British took control of the Ionian Islands after defeating the French right around 1812 or so. The British didn't really invade Greece, not like they did in Canada. The British just sunk the French fleet and the treaty ending hostilities the French ceded the Ionian Islands to England. England gave those Islands to Greece after the Greeks finally threw off Ottoman rule. So I can see how Greece ends up on that map from the OP, but you could certainly argue that the definition of "invasion" is stretched quite a bit to do so and you'd have a point, a point that doesn't work in the slightest in regards to Canada. Then there is WWII and all that jazz, England did launch a proper invasion of Greece, to liberate the Greeks and pushed out the Germans and Italians. But that's more semantics I suppose. But still, it seems proper to add Greece to the map in the OP considering I guess, it's not a very far stretch. I'm sure there are other examples of where your semantic game would be better served than Canada and Greece though.

The English did get around like sailors on shore leave in Thailand. That's pretty obvious and I think that's the main point of the article in the OP, that the English were like dirty whores going port to port fucking everything they could stick their dicks in, figuratively speaking.

[thegreekdog]

Wow... sorry patches. I didn't mean for you to spend that much time.

By the way, not to belabor the point, but the reason I use Canada as an example is simply because Canada did not exist as a sovereign country prior to being "invaded" by the UK. If the War of 1812 had not occurred, the United States would similarly be on my "semantical" list. The land that eventually became Canada was occupied first by Native Americans, then by colonists... some from France and some from England.

If, alternatively, we're saying asking and answering the question - "Where did the UK put troops on the ground and/or exert military pressure, without regard to whether the nation that now exists within that particular landmass existed at the time the UK put troops on the ground and/or exert military pressure?" - then what is the purpose of this list? Yeah, the UK got around militarily. I think we all knew that. I think most of us are aware that the sun never set on the British Empire. We didn't need an exhaustive study to figure that out.

[_sabotage_]

Have we arrived back to where we started: the map was made with arbitrary decisions?

[Symmetry]

I think the author just looked at a map of the world and tried to find out which countries control territories that have been invaded. Then found then "invasion" is flexible.

A bunch of countries were invaded by forces that were essentially pirates with a crown license. So they're kind of British forces? Add those countries to the list.

A bunch of countries invited the British in, diplomatically, but with the threat of force, so add those in as a kind of diplomatic invasion. Gunboat diplomacy.

So the term becomes flexible.

TGD- maybe you should buy the book. I've not read it.

[thegreekdog]

I think the author just looked at a map of the world and tried to find out which countries control territories that have been invaded. Then found then "invasion" is flexible.

A bunch of countries were invaded by forces that were essentially pirates with a crown license. So they're kind of British forces? Add those countries to the list.

A bunch of countries invited the British in, diplomatically, but with the threat of force, so add those in as a kind of diplomatic invasion. Gunboat diplomacy.

So the term becomes flexible.

TGD- maybe you should buy the book. I've not read it.

I think that's a good idea. It would be interesting. Hell, British history is interesting in and of itself.

[tzor]

The map has a problem of quantum nation states. It takes the current size of the modern nation state and suggests that if the nation was smaller at the time of the invasion or that only a small portion of the nation was invaded the entire modern nation was invaded.

So while the British clearly invaded the eastern coast of the United States, I don't think they ever invaded either the west coast or the state of Alaska. That would significantly change the colors of the map if you included the actual land invaded as opposed to coloring the entire nation state.

[Symmetry]

The map has a problem of quantum nation states. It takes the current size of the modern nation state and suggests that if the nation was smaller at the time of the invasion or that only a small portion of the nation was invaded the entire modern nation was invaded.

So while the British clearly invaded the eastern coast of the United States, I don't think they ever invaded either the west coast or the state of Alaska. That would significantly change the colors of the map if you included the actual land invaded as opposed to coloring the entire nation state.

Yeah, we invaded Hawaii:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paulet_Affair_(1843)

Alaska: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Alaska#Britain.27s_presence

But hey, fun as it is to look this stuff up, perhaps consult wiki?

It's weird how many places we went to as a military,