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Re: Wine glasses

Postby notyou2 on Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:28 am

betiko wrote:
Lord Arioch wrote:Depends on what you are eating ... i never drink Spanish Lager except i spain then its wicked good...

One of my favourites is a strong malbec to meat yum yum

One other thing that ive been wondering about is why is the size of glass different between red and white wine? White glasses seems generelly to be smaller?


probably because you don't need to oxydate white wine and to swirl it in the glass I'd say.


You're just repeating what Tzor said.
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Re: Wine glasses

Postby betiko on Thu Feb 26, 2015 10:06 am

notyou2 wrote:
betiko wrote:
Lord Arioch wrote:Depends on what you are eating ... i never drink Spanish Lager except i spain then its wicked good...

One of my favourites is a strong malbec to meat yum yum

One other thing that ive been wondering about is why is the size of glass different between red and white wine? White glasses seems generelly to be smaller?


probably because you don't need to oxydate white wine and to swirl it in the glass I'd say.


You're just repeating what Tzor said.


yes but arioch asked the question after tzor gave the answer to this... which leads me to believe that no one here reads the thread they are posting on.
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Re: Wine glasses

Postby neanderpaul14 on Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:07 am

AndyDufresne wrote:I drink koolaid mostly.


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Keep drinking the koolaid man ;)

patches70 wrote:Same reason there is a handle on a beer mug.


I always assumed beer mugs were made extra heavy and had handles on them was so they made better weapons when the bar fights break out, kinda like the reason bar bottles had long necks, so you wouldn't cut your hand while bashing the guy in on the next stool.
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Re: Wine glasses

Postby patches70 on Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:31 am

neanderpaul14 wrote:I always assumed beer mugs were made extra heavy and had handles on them was so they made better weapons when the bar fights break out, kinda like the reason bar bottles had long necks, so you wouldn't cut your hand while bashing the guy in on the next stool.


That is a good point!
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Re: Wine glasses

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:14 pm

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betiko wrote:also... like americans are the only ones to drink their beer cold... The british drinking warm beer is a joke you know...
And wine is drank at temperate temperature, never cold (except for pink wine and some white wines)


Everyone in the world drinks lager cold, because lager is just piss. Ales and other such beers are usually served at room temperature (although in China they generally just chill everything regardless).

Ale is for rubbies. Civilized people drink lager.


Civilized people have no taste.

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Re: Wine glasses

Postby AndyDufresne on Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:57 pm

I've had a tiny bit of rompope, in the presence of some nice Mexican nuns and a Mexican Franciscan Friar. It tasted like medicine, and not the bubble gum kind.


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Re: Wine glasses

Postby neanderpaul14 on Fri Feb 27, 2015 11:33 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:I've had a tiny bit of rompope, in the presence of some nice Mexican nuns and a Mexican Franciscan Friar. It tasted like medicine, and not the bubble gum kind.


--Andy


I've always wanted to try mead.
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Re: Wine glasses

Postby tkr4lf on Sun Mar 01, 2015 5:45 pm

Seriously, ale is where it's at. Lager is ok sometimes, but ale is always good.

As for wine drinkers being connoisseurs and beer drinkers being rednecks... there are such things as beer connoisseurs. There are a plethora of different beer styles and sub-styles, and learning to enjoy them and differentiate them is a rewarding journey all of its own. Beer is fucking awesome.

I could be biased though. I'm on beer number 6 right now, and still have 8 more in the fridge. I'll probably drink them all tonight.
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Re: Wine glasses

Postby tzor on Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:27 pm

neanderpaul14 wrote:I've always wanted to try mead.


We have a meadery on long island ... it's not that bad. There is a better meadery somewhere upstate; they sell their stuff at the annual Ren Faire at Tuxedo Park. That's pretty decent. There arealso a couple of mixed drinks there but I forget if they were mead and hard apple cider or mead and stout (there might have been both of them). If you tip the seller she will proclaim "Huzzah!"
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Re: Wine glasses

Postby tzor on Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:29 pm

Speaking of odd things, there is a place in Florida that makes fruit / vegetable wines. They have a carrot wine they call "1000 Carats" which tastes like a dry Chardonnay. They also have an orange wine soaked in coffee beans they call "Midnight Sun." Sometimes you do have to go outside the box.
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Re: Wine glasses

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:22 am

neanderpaul14 wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:I've had a tiny bit of rompope, in the presence of some nice Mexican nuns and a Mexican Franciscan Friar. It tasted like medicine, and not the bubble gum kind.


--Andy


I've always wanted to try mead.


It varies in quality in my experience. Some doesn't taste much different than, like, champagne, but some is better.

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Re: Wine glasses

Postby betiko on Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:06 am

tzor wrote:Speaking of odd things, there is a place in Florida that makes fruit / vegetable wines. They have a carrot wine they call "1000 Carats" which tastes like a dry Chardonnay. They also have an orange wine soaked in coffee beans they call "Midnight Sun." Sometimes you do have to go outside the box.


while these things are probably good, I don't think they could pass the "funny and original drink" mark.
Mankind has been optimizing other beverages for way too long. Nothing is more refined than superior wines, whiskeys and cognac. Maybe there are some very superior vodkas, gins and rhums... I got to say I love carrabean rhums where they add fruits and cinamon in it.
I love beer and some are really above the rest, but beer has less leverage of improvement imo.
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Re: Wine glasses

Postby tzor on Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:49 pm

betiko wrote:Mankind has been optimizing other beverages for way too long. Nothing is more refined than superior wines, whiskeys and cognac. Maybe there are some very superior vodkas, gins and rhums... I got to say I love carrabean rhums where they add fruits and cinamon in it.


One thing I really love is something that is only sold in Bermuda. Bermuda Gold Liqueur is made with the loquat fruit. I brought one bottle back home with me and on a nice snow filled day, it goes down real well and gives me a great boost to my morale.

betiko wrote:I love beer and some are really above the rest, but beer has less leverage of improvement imo.


Well when we get to whiskeys and cognac we are talking about additional distilling of an original product. Whiskeys come from malt, basically beer.

Example: LiV Pine Barrens Single Malt Whiskey is crafted from a barley wine styled ale beer.

So yes, there is plenty of interesting improvement you can make with beer.
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Re: Wine glasses

Postby betiko on Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:22 pm

tzor wrote:
betiko wrote:Mankind has been optimizing other beverages for way too long. Nothing is more refined than superior wines, whiskeys and cognac. Maybe there are some very superior vodkas, gins and rhums... I got to say I love carrabean rhums where they add fruits and cinamon in it.


One thing I really love is something that is only sold in Bermuda. Bermuda Gold Liqueur is made with the loquat fruit. I brought one bottle back home with me and on a nice snow filled day, it goes down real well and gives me a great boost to my morale.

betiko wrote:I love beer and some are really above the rest, but beer has less leverage of improvement imo.


Well when we get to whiskeys and cognac we are talking about additional distilling of an original product. Whiskeys come from malt, basically beer.

Example: LiV Pine Barrens Single Malt Whiskey is crafted from a barley wine styled ale beer.

So yes, there is plenty of interesting improvement you can make with beer.


you don't age beer in oak barrels during decades, and beer is mostly water. so no, you can't compare with some other wines and liquors. Beer is just a much more straight forward beverage.
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Re: Wine glasses

Postby tzor on Mon Mar 02, 2015 5:05 pm

betiko wrote:You don't age beer in oak barrels during decades, and beer is mostly water. so no, you can't compare with some other wines and liquors. Beer is just a much more straight forward beverage.


Just become something is not common does not mean that something is not done. And really very few wines are aged for "decades." White wines sometimes never see a wooden barrel and others for just a year or so. Red wines take longer.

Now if you promise to be an adult (that's just a requirement for the page, silly) go to Russian River Brewing Company where you will see the following: "There is no real formula when aging beer in barrels, the beer tells us when it is ready, not the other way around. At 9 months we start tasting each barrel and when the beer tells us it is ready, we will pull the beer out of the barrels into the final blend. Now, with that said, we tend to age our beer for 12 to 24 months before it is removed from the barrel." That's two years. (Note that most Red wine ages from 6 months to three years in the barrel.) There is even a interesting link here from NPR the obvious place for good taste, "Vintage Beer? Aficionados Say Some Brews Taste Better With Age" which talks about letting some styles of beer age in the bottle.

For a beer to benefit from aging, there are several basic prerequisites. First, it should be strong — at least 8 percent alcohol by volume. Alcohol acts like a preservative against a beer turning stale or skunky. Virtually all beer bottles display the alcohol content.

Sweetness, from residual sugar that didn't ferment during brewing, also helps, as the sugars develop malty, caramel-like overtones. Smoky-flavored beers, as well as those affected by souring yeasts or bacteria, can also do well in the cellar. Sour beers, a popular brewing method, are easily found at many beer stores, as are smoke-flavored brews. Those shopping for cellarworthy beers should ask for tips from the retailer.
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Re: Wine glasses

Postby Quirk on Mon Mar 02, 2015 6:03 pm

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Re: Wine glasses

Postby neanderpaul14 on Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:51 am

tzor wrote:
We have a meadery on long island ... it's not that bad. There is a better meadery somewhere upstate; they sell their stuff at the annual Ren Faire at Tuxedo Park. That's pretty decent. There arealso a couple of mixed drinks there but I forget if they were mead and hard apple cider or mead and stout (there might have been both of them). If you tip the seller she will proclaim "Huzzah!"


I don't blame you one bit for forgetting what exactly is in the tasty beverages the scantily clad wenches at a Ren Faire may be serving you, the way the those tops pop are designed to cause amnesia and stammering.

betiko wrote:you don't age beer in oak barrels during decades, and beer is mostly water. so no, you can't compare with some other wines and liquors. Beer is just a much more straight forward beverage.


Comparing wine to beer may be a fair, albeit apples to oranges, comparison. However you can't compare wines to liquors, assuming by liquors you mean distilled alcoholic beverages. Both wine and beer are non-distilled, merely fermented beverages. Never really understood why in America wines and liquors go together on a sign instead of beer and wine, unless it's our penchant for making beers weaker than the rest of the beer drinking world. Although if we made our beers twice as strong as they are my after work activities would require less trips to the package store, and less trips to pee.
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Re: Wine glasses

Postby tzor on Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:14 am

neanderpaul14 wrote:I don't blame you one bit for forgetting what exactly is in the tasty beverages the scantily clad wenches at a Ren Faire may be serving you, the way the those tops pop are designed to cause amnesia and stammering.


You do have a point. Of course somehow that didn't work for the generally crappy to rather so so food the same ladies offered. I think their effects diminished once I left their presence. On the other hand, the "washing women" definitely did not have that same impression on me.

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neanderpaul14 wrote:Never really understood why in America wines and liquors go together on a sign instead of beer and wine, unless it's our penchant for making beers weaker than the rest of the beer drinking world. Although if we made our beers twice as strong as they are my after work activities would require less trips to the package store, and less trips to pee.


I think it was a product of prohibition and the repeal afterwards. Many states allowed beer to be sold in supermarkets but not wine and liquor; beer being more "American" than wine for the level of proof, I suspect. Beer was a mass product, while wine (with the exception of California, for the most part) was considered more "refined" because it was often imported.
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Re: Wine glasses

Postby jonesthecurl on Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:56 pm

tzor wrote:Speaking of odd things, there is a place in Florida that makes fruit / vegetable wines. They have a carrot wine they call "1000 Carats" which tastes like a dry Chardonnay. They also have an orange wine soaked in coffee beans they call "Midnight Sun." Sometimes you do have to go outside the box.



I used to make my own wine out of a variety of things. Root veg is hard to clear, as is rhubarb for some reason. One of the best things to make (your own) wine from is tea.
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Re: Wine glasses

Postby / on Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:56 pm

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Re: Wine glasses

Postby betiko on Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:03 pm

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This guy looks like a total fraud to me.the movements compared to the sound are sometimes approximative and don t match the music... Or is it me?
I'm not saying a glass harp like this doesn't work, just that this guy is using playback.
Also is this one supposed to be on a table emitting vibrations or something? Is it supposed to work just by putting your hand a few inches far from the glass, and only the glass you decide makes a sound? Lulz.
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Re: Wine glasses

Postby tzor on Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:09 pm

betiko wrote:This guy looks like a total fraud to me.the movements compared to the sound are sometimes approximative and don t match the music... Or is it me?


He's not a solo instrument. He's taking over first and second violin. There is a viola and a bass that you can hear starting off the piece. If you know what a glass harp sounds like, the glass harp parts match his movements precisely.
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Re: Wine glasses

Postby betiko on Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:23 pm

tzor wrote:
betiko wrote:This guy looks like a total fraud to me.the movements compared to the sound are sometimes approximative and don t match the music... Or is it me?


He's not a solo instrument. He's taking over first and second violin. There is a viola and a bass that you can hear starting off the piece. If you know what a glass harp sounds like, the glass harp parts match his movements precisely.


you really think that I think a glass will sound like all these string instruments in the background, Captain obvious?
Just look at how some exact same notes are not played exactly the same way, how some unnecesairy movements make no sound. This guy seems to be bullshitting us.

compare with these guys that are actually playing (although not using the same glass harp technique)
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