muy_thaiguy wrote:Yeah, keep saying that. Say it loud enough, maybe Putin will give you a medal.GoranZ wrote:muy_thaiguy wrote:So, pulling out the "Oh, you Nazi because they used some sort of political tool!" line? I swear, it's like talking to one of those automated response things. You can practically predict what they will say.GoranZ wrote:muy_thaiguy wrote:Russia, if they were business oriented, they would have long ago backed out of Ukraine.
1000 times repeated lie can only become truth if you are Nazi, after all it was their philosophy.
Russians are defending their business investments Nazi lover... After all they have invested in Ukraine a lot.
Is Obama giving you a medal for your services?
muy_thaiguy wrote:So, VICE news is "US Propaganda" when they actually go to these places and interview the people affected/taking part in these things?muy_thaiguy wrote:Oh, and FYI, EVERY country, including yours, Russia, the US, Canada, etc uses propaganda.
The problem for you is that you are only reading US propaganda, and you have difficulties to determine truth from fiction.
Also, as opposed to a media that is almost completely controlled by the Russian Kremlin, with only a handful otherwise? Not to mention the US government, outside of troop positions in combat, has no say in media.
VICE news interview what they want to interview and that usually doesn't represent the thinking of majority of the population... Thus making them pure Western propaganda machine
muy_thaiguy wrote:Because they don't show the Russian government as the "Beacon of Hope" they make themselves out to be?muy_thaiguy wrote:And for the record, I usually go with VICE news, who actually goes to these places and interviews the people there.You got to be kidding rite. VICE news interview what they want and that is not the truth... Their interviews in Crimea were ultimate failure.
No they failed to present the situation as it is on the ground... they simply show their own version of the "truth".
muy_thaiguy wrote:muy_thaiguy wrote:You're sounding a lot like fat boy Kim Jung Il with all your talks about using nuclear weapons. Also, Ukraine wants Ukraine. They are a sovereign country. You make it sound like they are a part of Russia.If you dont know around half of Ukraine's population is Russian speaking population, so you can expect nuclear war if West want Ukraine.
Current Ukraine is sovereign country?
Last I checked, the US has not even sent weapons, whereas all the proof of Russian interference (videos, testimonies, Russian civilians receiving the bodies of their kids who have battle markings all over over their bodies, the civilian airplane that was blown out of the sky by the rebels, etc) all points to Russia actually interfering with Ukraine.
Oh, and keep drinking that lemonade that Russia is giving you, your doing a good job of being a drone of theirs.
You were checking for something
Check your pills before you post.Russian officials weren't the one that were giving all sort of support for illegal Maiden protests, or even illegal removal of power of Ukrainian President... But I presume you are counting only what suits to you, not what actually happen.
muy_thaiguy wrote:You read more than what I wrote. I said Russia is charging Ukraine for what the rebels in the East are using. I did not say Ukraine was paying (since it was otherwise shut off).muy_thaiguy wrote:They haven't. They're actually charging Western Ukraine for what the rebels in East Ukraine are using.And 25 years Ukraine was receiving 150$ cheaper gas from Russia, that's huge business investment made by Russia to just give up on it.
Western Ukraine is paying something?
As far as I know Donbass is still part of Ukraine, even by Russian positions they are still part of Ukraine, so who do you expect to pay the bills?
muy_thaiguy wrote:muy_thaiguy wrote:So, retaking (invading) Crimea, "supporting rebels" in East Ukraine, threatening the Baltic States, threaten nuclear war, etc, all at levels not seen SINCE the Soviet Empire (hey, you can spout your Soviet/Russian fed nonsense, I'll say what I want), than what do you call it? Sunshine and daisies?Russia doesn't want to reestablish Soviet Union, its too expensive for them but you would have know that if you were business oriented person. Clearly you are not.
-Baltic states have an option to give Russians proper rights, nothing more, nothing less. Alternative is well known.
-Its liberation of Crimea
-Its support for liberation of East Ukraine from western oppression
-US has already used nukes on civilian population... Are you afraid that you might live threw the same faith as those that you nuked? You should be.
1. There's always more than 1 alternative. Like if people don't like where they live, they are free to move.
Leave then, why are your fingers still in Ukraine?
muy_thaiguy wrote:2. "Liberation"? Ever since Russia annexed it, the Russian government moved in and took over a lot of formerly private businesses. And they only took it so they have a warm water port.
Anyone who doesn't work by Russian regulations, in Crimea will lose their business, Crimea is back within Russia now, get use to it.
muy_thaiguy wrote:3. Who "oppressed" who? You claim that I'm ignorant, yet you willingly lap up whatever Russia's government says like a druggie that can't get enough heroin. The Ukrainians are defending their country from Russia and Russian backed rebels (after ousting a highly corrupt President that was moving to closer ties with Russia when many in Ukraine did not want that).
Once again, take your pills before you write, you are writing nonsense. Replacement of any president should happen on elections, if he doesn't fulfill expectations. And those that fight in Eastern Ukraine voted for that president, that was their choice, but someone in west didn't want him.
muy_thaiguy wrote:4. The a-bombs? Weapons, that pale in comparison to weapons today? Like comparing a firecracker to TNT. And that was before it was understood of the long term consequences, and in a time of extreme desperation. And why they haven't been used since. And for good reason. You seem to be as nuclear threatening happy as Putin or fat boy in North Korea without understanding the long term consequences of it. That's a big problem I have with your "oh, but you should know that Russia will nuke you!" like it's the same as a spanking or something.
If you want to tell Ukraine what it should do, then you are risking nuclear war. So I'm not your problem, you are the biggest problem for yourself.
muy_thaiguy wrote:You keep claiming I am "ignorant" and "full of Western lies" all the while towing the Russian Kremlin line and believing everything they say without even thinking outside the box. Not to mention your "claims" against me. Tell me then, what do you know about me, where I live, etc? And please don't give me any of that Russian propaganda crap. It's about as reliable now as it was 50 years ago.
I don't care who you are, or where you live, you can live in some filthy dog hole if you want, it's your problem.
