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japanese vs korean vs mandarin

Postby waauw on Sun Sep 20, 2015 12:11 pm

Which one of these languages provides you a headache and which one do you find soothing?
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Re: japanese vs korean vs mandarin

Postby subtleknifewield on Sun Sep 20, 2015 12:22 pm

Mandarin :D
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Re: japanese vs korean vs mandarin

Postby mrswdk on Sun Sep 20, 2015 12:39 pm

The fourth option should be renamed as 'Guangdong dialect' 8)
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Re: japanese vs korean vs mandarin

Postby waauw on Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:04 pm

mrswdk wrote:The fourth option should be renamed as 'Guangdong dialect' 8)


Not sure what it sounds like and the song on youtube makes it sound like Thai.
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Re: japanese vs korean vs mandarin

Postby mrswdk on Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:12 pm

Guangdong dialect is what you are talking about when you say Cantonese.
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Re: japanese vs korean vs mandarin

Postby waauw on Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:17 pm

mrswdk wrote:Guangdong dialect is what you are talking about when you say Cantonese.


Oooooh, yeah I'm going to keep Cantonese up there. The term is more recognizable for westerners I think.

OT: I prefer Japanese(probably the anime influence) and for some reason I only really seem to like mandarin in songs.
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Re: japanese vs korean vs mandarin

Postby mrswdk on Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:35 pm

Japanese:



Korean:



Chinese:



The songs I know by HK/Canton singers are all sung in proper Chinese (including the one I've linked above), so I can't think of anything to link for Canto I'm afraid.
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Re: japanese vs korean vs mandarin

Postby notyou2 on Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:56 pm

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Re: japanese vs korean vs mandarin

Postby subtleknifewield on Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:33 am

Speaking of songs and singing...

Fun fact, a native speaker of a language with heavy emphasis on tone to indicate different meanings is about six times more likely to have perfect pitch than a native speaker of other languages.
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Re: japanese vs korean vs mandarin

Postby mrswdk on Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:33 am

That must be why all Chinese are beautiful singers.
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Re: japanese vs korean vs mandarin

Postby subtleknifewield on Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:23 pm

I wouldn't know, haven't heard any over here.
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Re: japanese vs korean vs mandarin

Postby rishaed on Mon Sep 21, 2015 10:39 pm

Singing about toilets LOL but its a pretty song even so :D
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Re: japanese vs korean vs mandarin

Postby macbone on Wed Sep 30, 2015 1:21 am

Oh, wait, Chinese? Like Putonghua dialect, or Mandarin as spoken in Taiwan? Lots of languages are part of the Chinese family. That said, songs from mainland China and Taiwan are lovely, and M is right, a lot of HK singers (and Koreans and Japanese) sing songs in Putonghua.

Cantonese:







Putonghua:



English:





I like all of them. =) The following, though, just needs to be burned:



I didn't vote, but I'd go for all of the above. That or kittens. =)
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Re: japanese vs korean vs mandarin

Postby mrswdk on Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:14 am

macbone wrote:Like Putonghua dialect, or Mandarin as spoken in Taiwan?


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Re: japanese vs korean vs mandarin

Postby macbone on Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:17 am

Eh, I know it's political with you, M. It always is. =)

http://www.mtholyoke.edu/~yu25s/classwe ... China.html

Cantonese may be one of the popular dialects in China since Guangzhou is a major city in Mainland China. People from Hong Kong and those immigrated to North America who were originally from southern China generally speak Cantonese as well.

However, the modern Chinese dialects are classified into seven major groups. In the list of those groups below, the population estimates are based upon a total Han Chinese population of 950 million (Ramsey, 87).

Dialect Group Estimated Population Where Spoken
North
1.Mandarin 679,250,000 (71.5%) all of North and Southwest
The North varieties of Chinese are usually known as the Mandarin dialects. They are typified by the Peking dialect, which is the basis of the standard language and of “Mandarin” in a much narrower-and older-sense.

South
2.Wu 80,750,000(8.5%) coastal area around Shanghai,Zhejiang
The Wu dialects are spoken in the Yangtze delta and the coastal region around Shanghai. This is an area in the most fertile and densely populated part of China. There are more than eighty million speakers of Wu, and they live in a space approximately the size of the state of Georgia(which has a population of about five and a half million).

3.Gan 22,800,000(2.4%) Jiangxi
To the west and somewhat south of the Wu area are the Gan dialects. These little-known and little-studied varieties of Chinese are spoken mostly in Jiangxi, a province that stretches from the hills and mountain passes along the border of Guangdong northward to the great bow of the Yangtze River as it bends southto touch Boyang Lake.

4.Xiang 45,600,000(4.8%) Hunan
The Xiang dialects are also a Southern group in transition-even more so than Gan. They are exposed to mandarin from several directions. Huna, the place where they are spoken, borders Mandarin-speaking territory on its north, west, and southwest.

5.Hakka 35,130,000(3.7%) widely scattered from Sichuan to Taiwan
Scattered over most of South China are communities of Hakka. Villages of these unusual people can be found in the countryside from Sichuan to Taiwan and are especially common in the hillier parts of Guangdong, Guangxi, and Southern Fujian.

6.Yue 47,500,000(5.0%) Guangdong, Guangxi (and overseas communities)
The Yue dialects are popularly known as the Cantonese dialects. They are spoken in Guangdong and Guangxi, in the area around the southernmost point in the curve of the South China coastline. These dialects are also spoken in North America. Unlike people from other parts of China, the people who speak Yue dialects-the “Cantonese” -have settled in fairly large numbers in the United States and Canada.

7.Min 38,950,000(4.1%) Fujian, coastal areas of South
The Min-speaking part of China is Fujian Province and the northeastern tip of Guangdong. The best-known dialects in the area are those of Fuzhou, Amoy, and Swatow.

The Degree of Diversity among the Chinese Dialects
One often hears it said that the Chinese dialects are really different languages. In practical terms they must often be treated as such ; in some universities, for example, Cantonese is offered alongside the standard language in Asian language departments. But the question of what constitutes a language and what constitutes a dialect cannot be answered in an absolute way; nonetheless, it is important to keep in mind that the differences among the Chinese dialects are very considerable. To the historical linguist Chinese is rather more like a language family than a single language made up of a number of regional forms. The Chinese dialectal complex is in many ways analogous to the Romance language family in Europe. To take an extreme example, there is probably as much difference between the dialects of Peking and Chaozhou as there is between Italian and French ‘ the Hainan Min dialects are as different from the Xian dialect as Spanish is from Rumanian (Norman 187).
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Re: japanese vs korean vs mandarin

Postby Bernie Sanders on Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:21 am

Korean, only because it's hard to get this song out of your head.

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Re: japanese vs korean vs mandarin

Postby subtleknifewield on Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:49 am

Ewww, I hated that song.
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Re: japanese vs korean vs mandarin

Postby waauw on Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:11 am

subtleknifewield wrote:Ewww, I hated that song.


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Re: japanese vs korean vs mandarin

Postby subtleknifewield on Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:22 am

I don't understand how such an obnoxiously repetitive song became viral.
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Re: japanese vs korean vs mandarin

Postby mrswdk on Wed Sep 30, 2015 10:46 am

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Re: japanese vs korean vs mandarin

Postby waauw on Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:46 am

subtleknifewield wrote:I don't understand how such an obnoxiously repetitive song became viral.


Well it's simple really. Half the pop-music out there if not more is obnoxiously repetitive. It's COOL.
Also the videoclip is hilarious
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Re: japanese vs korean vs mandarin

Postby subtleknifewield on Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:48 am

Repetition is WAYYYYY overdone. ;)
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Re: japanese vs korean vs mandarin

Postby jonesthecurl on Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:57 am

subtleknifewield wrote:Repetition is WAYYYYY overdone. ;)


WAYYYYY overdone.
WAYYYYY WAYYYYY overdone.
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Re: japanese vs korean vs mandarin

Postby subtleknifewield on Fri Oct 02, 2015 10:05 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:
subtleknifewield wrote:Repetition is WAYYYYY overdone. ;)


WAYYYYY overdone.
WAYYYYY WAYYYYY overdone.

WAYYYYY WAYYYYY WAYYYYY overdone!
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