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Representative democracy continues to prove its worth

Postby mrswdk on Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:28 pm

No one could every accuse representative democracy of failing to ensure the will of the people is done.

Japan’s controversial security bills have passed the Upper House of the Diet, ushering in a new era in Japanese security policy. Although there was little doubt the bills would pass, the groundswell of disapproval from the public – drawing tens of thousands of protestors – and opposition lawmakers ensures the bills will be under close scrutiny for the months to come. Prime Minister Shinzo Abe contends the security bills will help protect Japanese at home and abroad, allow Japan to play a greater role in the international community, and fulfill its commitments to the US-Japan Alliance. Abe’s reassurance that the Japan Self-Defense Forces (JSDF) would still operate under strict regulations and Japan would not be entangled in foreign wars did little to appease the skeptical public: According to a recent Asahi Shimbun poll, 54 percent of Japanese do not support the security bills.


http://thediplomat.com/2015/10/japans-s ... elivering/

Who cares if no one in your country wants the law to pass - you're the government, you can do what you like :D
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Re: Representative democracy continues to prove its worth

Postby Army of GOD on Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:56 pm

Which is worse: Japanese Diet or American diet?
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Re: Representative democracy continues to prove its worth

Postby waauw on Sun Oct 04, 2015 4:22 pm

Yeah because chinese one-party oligarchy is so much better... :roll:
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Re: Representative democracy continues to prove its worth

Postby mrswdk on Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:32 am

waauw wrote:Yeah because chinese one-party oligarchy is so much better... :roll:


Not being able to claim electoral process as a source of legitimacy means that a government has to more actively pursue legitimization of their power via other means (such as actually running their country well).
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Re: Representative democracy continues to prove its worth

Postby waauw on Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:13 am

mrswdk wrote:
waauw wrote:Yeah because chinese one-party oligarchy is so much better... :roll:


Not being able to claim electoral process as a source of legitimacy means that a government has to more actively pursue legitimization of their power via other means (such as actually running their country well).


Sure... Because it's not like history has hundreds of examples of countries that had no electoral process, nor actually pursued any form of righteous ethical sensible legitimization of their power.
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Re: Representative democracy continues to prove its worth

Postby macbone on Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:17 am

See, the difference is, everything that gets passed in China is the will of the people. Would you rather live in a society where sometimes legislation is enacted that you don't support, or a society where you support all legislation that's passed?

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have some kool-aid-flavored coffee to sip.








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Re: Representative democracy continues to prove its worth

Postby waauw on Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:32 am

macbone wrote:See, the difference is, everything that gets passed in China is the will of the people. Would you rather live in a society where sometimes legislation is enacted that you don't support, or a society where you support all legislation that's passed?


I'm sorry, I'd rather have a country where politicians do occasionally misbehave than a country that has no freedom of information.

If you honestly think that "EVERYTHING" China passes is the will of the people then you don't seem to have a clue of the history of centralized governments. I suppose you also think the Uyghurs, the Tibetans, the Hong-Kong protestors and the renegade island of Taiwan also completely agree with every law and decree passed by the communist party.
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Re: Representative democracy continues to prove its worth

Postby macbone on Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:26 am

Waauw, I've been reprimanded in the past for being a bit too enthusiastic in my questioning of certain doctrines expressed in OT. I'm just doing my best to be a good little Hong Konger!
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Re: Representative democracy continues to prove its worth

Postby mrswdk on Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:03 am

macbone wrote:Waauw, I've been reprimanded in the past for being a bit too enthusiastic in my questioning of certain doctrines expressed in OT. I'm just doing my best to be a good little Hong Konger!


That's my boy :D
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Re: Representative democracy continues to prove its worth

Postby mrswdk on Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:04 am

waauw wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
waauw wrote:Yeah because chinese one-party oligarchy is so much better... :roll:


Not being able to claim electoral process as a source of legitimacy means that a government has to more actively pursue legitimization of their power via other means (such as actually running their country well).


Sure... Because it's not like history has hundreds of examples of countries that had no electoral process, nor actually pursued any form of righteous ethical sensible legitimization of their power.


Fantastic comeback, PLAYER.
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Re: Representative democracy continues to prove its worth

Postby waauw on Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:27 am

mrswdk wrote:
waauw wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
waauw wrote:Yeah because chinese one-party oligarchy is so much better... :roll:


Not being able to claim electoral process as a source of legitimacy means that a government has to more actively pursue legitimization of their power via other means (such as actually running their country well).


Sure... Because it's not like history has hundreds of examples of countries that had no electoral process, nor actually pursued any form of righteous ethical sensible legitimization of their power.


Fantastic comeback, PLAYER.


Thanks, RICEFACE.
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Re: Representative democracy continues to prove its worth

Postby jimboston on Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:03 am

waauw wrote:
macbone wrote:See, the difference is, everything that gets passed in China is the will of the people. Would you rather live in a society where sometimes legislation is enacted that you don't support, or a society where you support all legislation that's passed?


I'm sorry, I'd rather have a country where politicians do occasionally misbehave than a country that has no freedom of information.

If you honestly think that "EVERYTHING" China passes is the will of the people then you don't seem to have a clue of the history of centralized governments. I suppose you also think the Uyghurs, the Tibetans, the Hong-Kong protestors and the renegade island of Taiwan also completely agree with every law and decree passed by the communist party.


I think macbone was being sarcastic....

I suggest a new forum rule. No sarcasm allowed!
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Re: Representative democracy continues to prove its worth

Postby waauw on Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:10 pm

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Re: Representative democracy continues to prove its worth

Postby mrswdk on Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:47 pm

waauw wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
waauw wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
waauw wrote:Yeah because chinese one-party oligarchy is so much better... :roll:


Not being able to claim electoral process as a source of legitimacy means that a government has to more actively pursue legitimization of their power via other means (such as actually running their country well).


Sure... Because it's not like history has hundreds of examples of countries that had no electoral process, nor actually pursued any form of righteous ethical sensible legitimization of their power.


Fantastic comeback, PLAYER.


Thanks, RICEFACE.


I was referring to PLAYER, the woman who used to come on here and make wild, sometimes nonsensical, statements with no substance to back them up.
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Re: Representative democracy continues to prove its worth

Postby waauw on Mon Oct 05, 2015 2:50 pm

mrswdk wrote:I was referring to PLAYER, the woman who used to come on here and make wild, sometimes nonsensical, statements with no substance to back them up.


You had a multi?
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Re: Representative democracy continues to prove its worth

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Mon Oct 05, 2015 2:55 pm

waauw wrote:
mrswdk wrote:I was referring to PLAYER, the woman who used to come on here and make wild, sometimes nonsensical, statements with no substance to back them up.


You had a multi?


He said the women.
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Re: Representative democracy continues to prove its worth

Postby waauw on Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:12 pm

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
waauw wrote:
mrswdk wrote:I was referring to PLAYER, the woman who used to come on here and make wild, sometimes nonsensical, statements with no substance to back them up.


You had a multi?


He said the women.


Hasn't Mrswdk been pretending to be a woman?
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Re: Representative democracy continues to prove its worth

Postby subtleknifewield on Sun Oct 18, 2015 7:06 am

waauw wrote:
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
waauw wrote:
mrswdk wrote:I was referring to PLAYER, the woman who used to come on here and make wild, sometimes nonsensical, statements with no substance to back them up.


You had a multi?


He said the women.


Hasn't Mrswdk been pretending to be a woman?

Indeed, I believe that's what the Mrs part stands for :P
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Re: Representative democracy continues to prove its worth

Postby Dukasaur on Sun Oct 18, 2015 7:17 am

subtleknifewield wrote:
waauw wrote:
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
waauw wrote:
mrswdk wrote:I was referring to PLAYER, the woman who used to come on here and make wild, sometimes nonsensical, statements with no substance to back them up.


You had a multi?


He said the women.


Hasn't Mrswdk been pretending to be a woman?

Indeed, I believe that's what the Mrs part stands for :P

There's no punctuation, so there's no reason to assume that the break is between "mrs" and "wdk".

I assume that there are two breaks, one between "mr" and "sw", and the other between "sw" and "dk".

Mister Swick Dick is how I read it.
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Re: Representative democracy continues to prove its worth

Postby subtleknifewield on Sun Oct 18, 2015 7:24 am

Dukasaur wrote:
subtleknifewield wrote:
waauw wrote:
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
waauw wrote:
mrswdk wrote:I was referring to PLAYER, the woman who used to come on here and make wild, sometimes nonsensical, statements with no substance to back them up.


You had a multi?


He said the women.


Hasn't Mrswdk been pretending to be a woman?

Indeed, I believe that's what the Mrs part stands for :P

There's no punctuation, so there's no reason to assume that the break is between "mrs" and "wdk".

I assume that there are two breaks, one between "mr" and "sw", and the other between "sw" and "dk".

Mister Swick Dick is how I read it.

We will have to agree to disagree on this one.

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