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Just A Quick Question On Keeping Children Safe

Postby HapSmo19 on Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:48 am

Since killing four people in Benghazi, Hillary Clinton has decided that the best thing to do is send hundreds of Marines to beef-up security at embassies and diplomatic missions around the world.
Ernst Rahm, of chicago, called La Pierre's recommendation of putting an armed police officer in every school in the country "outrageous and unsettling" and "out of touch". This guy has armed security personnel around him at all times.
There are snipers on the roof of the white house. Obama is covered by a very large and heavily armed security detail. His children are protected by many, many people...with guns.

Anyway, the question:
Other than crocodile tears, what do you think these hypocrits will come up with to keep your children from being murdered(physically) at school?
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Re: Just A Quick Question On Keeping Children Safe

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:53 am

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I demand America's children be protected the same way President Obama's children are protected!
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Re: Just A Quick Question On Keeping Children Safe

Postby comic boy on Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:02 am

Children are not being murdered on a regular basis in the UK so I guess its time you let the Brits govern y'all again , clearly our methods are more efficient :D
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Re: Just A Quick Question On Keeping Children Safe

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:05 am

comic boy wrote:Children are not being murdered on a regular basis in the UK so I guess its time you let the Brits govern y'all again , clearly our methods are more efficient :D


:-s

define "regular basis"

and....how many countries does the UK share a land border with? Oh, it's an island? How fucking convenient...

Try sharing a border with a country that is run by drug lords and professional smugglers.

I know this is asking too much, but you could use some perspective
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Re: Just A Quick Question On Keeping Children Safe

Postby TeeGee on Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:18 am

Phatscotty wrote:
comic boy wrote:Children are not being murdered on a regular basis in the UK so I guess its time you let the Brits govern y'all again , clearly our methods are more efficient :D


:-s

define "regular basis"

and....how many countries does the UK share a land border with? Oh, it's an island? How fucking convenient...

Try sharing a border with a country that is run by drug lords and professional smugglers.

I know this is asking too much, but you could use some perspective


Don't want to burst your bubble, but the UK isn't a country.. That's like lumping Canada, USA and Mexico together and saying its a single country, all because they are part of the same land mass.. And it's missing a separate land mass that forms part of the UK.. But I am sure the Scots and the Welsh will not at all be pleased being called Englishmen ;)
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Re: Just A Quick Question On Keeping Children Safe

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:19 am

TeeGee wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
comic boy wrote:Children are not being murdered on a regular basis in the UK so I guess its time you let the Brits govern y'all again , clearly our methods are more efficient :D


:-s

define "regular basis"

and....how many countries does the UK share a land border with? Oh, it's an island? How fucking convenient...

Try sharing a border with a country that is run by drug lords and professional smugglers.

I know this is asking too much, but you could use some perspective


Don't want to burst your bubble, but the UK isn't a country.. That's like lumping Canada, USA and Mexico together and saying its a single country, all because they are part of the same land mass.. And it's missing a separate land mass that forms part of the UK.. But I am sure the Scots and the Welsh will not at all be pleased being called Englishmen ;)


Britain, whatever...
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Re: Just A Quick Question On Keeping Children Safe

Postby chang50 on Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:24 am

HapSmo19 wrote:Since killing four people in Benghazi, Hillary Clinton has decided that the best thing to do is send hundreds of Marines to beef-up security at embassies and diplomatic missions around the world.
Ernst Rahm, of chicago, called La Pierre's recommendation of putting an armed police officer in every school in the country "outrageous and unsettling" and "out of touch". This guy has armed security personnel around him at all times.
There are snipers on the roof of the white house. Obama is covered by a very large and heavily armed security detail. His children are protected by many, many people...with guns.

Anyway, the question:
Other than crocodile tears, what do you think these hypocrits will come up with to keep your children from being murdered(physically) at school?


Well allowing your country to become saturated to insane levels with guns,nearly 1 per head of a population of over 300m.,making it practically impossible to stop bad guys accesssing them easily, because of a slavish obsession to an archaic document,makes such a lot of sense doesn't it?
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Re: Just A Quick Question On Keeping Children Safe

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:30 am

chang50 wrote:
HapSmo19 wrote:Since killing four people in Benghazi, Hillary Clinton has decided that the best thing to do is send hundreds of Marines to beef-up security at embassies and diplomatic missions around the world.
Ernst Rahm, of chicago, called La Pierre's recommendation of putting an armed police officer in every school in the country "outrageous and unsettling" and "out of touch". This guy has armed security personnel around him at all times.
There are snipers on the roof of the white house. Obama is covered by a very large and heavily armed security detail. His children are protected by many, many people...with guns.

Anyway, the question:
Other than crocodile tears, what do you think these hypocrits will come up with to keep your children from being murdered(physically) at school?


Well allowing your country to become saturated to insane levels with guns,nearly 1 per head of a population of over 300m.,making it practically impossible to stop bad guys accesssing them easily, because of a slavish obsession to an archaic document,makes such a lot of sense doesn't it?


meh, not bad for a foreigner...
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Re: Just A Quick Question On Keeping Children Safe

Postby chang50 on Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:57 am

Phatscotty wrote:
chang50 wrote:
HapSmo19 wrote:Since killing four people in Benghazi, Hillary Clinton has decided that the best thing to do is send hundreds of Marines to beef-up security at embassies and diplomatic missions around the world.
Ernst Rahm, of chicago, called La Pierre's recommendation of putting an armed police officer in every school in the country "outrageous and unsettling" and "out of touch". This guy has armed security personnel around him at all times.
There are snipers on the roof of the white house. Obama is covered by a very large and heavily armed security detail. His children are protected by many, many people...with guns.

Anyway, the question:
Other than crocodile tears, what do you think these hypocrits will come up with to keep your children from being murdered(physically) at school?


Well allowing your country to become saturated to insane levels with guns,nearly 1 per head of a population of over 300m.,making it practically impossible to stop bad guys accesssing them easily, because of a slavish obsession to an archaic document,makes such a lot of sense doesn't it?


meh, not bad for a foreigner...
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High praise indeed,any chance you might actually respond to the point,remembering you were a foreigner when you had a lot to say about Norway in the wake of the Breivik shooting spree.
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Re: Just A Quick Question On Keeping Children Safe

Postby HapSmo19 on Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:58 am

chang50 wrote:
HapSmo19 wrote:Since killing four people in Benghazi, Hillary Clinton has decided that the best thing to do is send hundreds of Marines to beef-up security at embassies and diplomatic missions around the world.
Ernst Rahm, of chicago, called La Pierre's recommendation of putting an armed police officer in every school in the country "outrageous and unsettling" and "out of touch". This guy has armed security personnel around him at all times.
There are snipers on the roof of the white house. Obama is covered by a very large and heavily armed security detail. His children are protected by many, many people...with guns.

Anyway, the question:
Other than crocodile tears, what do you think these hypocrits will come up with to keep your children from being murdered(physically) at school?


Well allowing your country to become saturated to insane levels with guns,nearly 1 per head of a population of over 300m.,making it practically impossible to stop bad guys accesssing them easily, because of a slavish obsession to an archaic document,makes such a lot of sense doesn't it?

Is this the "answer a question with a question" thread?
I thought this one was pretty simple.
Just tell me what you think they will do to keep the schools safe.
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Re: Just A Quick Question On Keeping Children Safe

Postby crispybits on Sun Dec 23, 2012 6:05 am

I don't see why we stop at children if the OP is correct.

Thousands of innocent adults are killed every year with guns. Every single American should have 2 security guards, heavily armed, following them around at all times (2 so that if they incapacitate the first one the second one can incapacitate them for their own good). It will virtually eliminate crime entirely, make suicide next to impossible and if a nutter starts looking nutty his own guards can take him down.

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Re: Just A Quick Question On Keeping Children Safe

Postby chang50 on Sun Dec 23, 2012 6:09 am

HapSmo19 wrote:
chang50 wrote:
HapSmo19 wrote:Since killing four people in Benghazi, Hillary Clinton has decided that the best thing to do is send hundreds of Marines to beef-up security at embassies and diplomatic missions around the world.
Ernst Rahm, of chicago, called La Pierre's recommendation of putting an armed police officer in every school in the country "outrageous and unsettling" and "out of touch". This guy has armed security personnel around him at all times.
There are snipers on the roof of the white house. Obama is covered by a very large and heavily armed security detail. His children are protected by many, many people...with guns.

Anyway, the question:
Other than crocodile tears, what do you think these hypocrits will come up with to keep your children from being murdered(physically) at school?


Well allowing your country to become saturated to insane levels with guns,nearly 1 per head of a population of over 300m.,making it practically impossible to stop bad guys accesssing them easily, because of a slavish obsession to an archaic document,makes such a lot of sense doesn't it?

Is this the "answer a question with a question" thread?
I thought this one was pretty simple.
Just tell me what you think they will do to keep the schools safe.


Thing is because of the saturation level of guns in your country there is very little they can do quickly,any solution involving reducing numbers will take years to implement and be met with fanatical resistance.It takes a special kind of stupid to get to where the US is now with its guns policy.
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Re: Just A Quick Question On Keeping Children Safe

Postby stahrgazer on Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:06 am

HapSmo19 wrote:Anyway, the question:
Other than crocodile tears, what do you think these hypocrits will come up with to keep your children from being murdered(physically) at school?


They're going to ban rifles, and probably some of the magazines.

NOT that this will keep children from being murdered by some nut job; but because science hasn't advanced far enough to address the real problem: how to detect the nut job before the nut cracks; and because politicians and parents won't want to admit, "there's really nothing we CAN do to prevent a nut job from cracking."

For those into "percentages" please compute the numbers of guns available in the US; of those numbers, how many were used to perpetrate child killings (or adult killings, for that matter?)

My guess is: not even 1%
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Re: Just A Quick Question On Keeping Children Safe

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:13 am

stahrgazer wrote:
HapSmo19 wrote:Anyway, the question:
Other than crocodile tears, what do you think these hypocrits will come up with to keep your children from being murdered(physically) at school?


They're going to ban rifles, and probably some of the magazines.

NOT that this will keep children from being murdered by some nut job; but because science hasn't advanced far enough to address the real problem: how to detect the nut job before the nut cracks; and because politicians and parents won't want to admit, "there's really nothing we CAN do to prevent a nut job from cracking."

For those into "percentages" please compute the numbers of guns available in the US; of those numbers, how many were used to perpetrate child killings (or adult killings, for that matter?)

My guess is: not even 1%


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Re: Just A Quick Question On Keeping Children Safe

Postby chang50 on Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:24 am

stahrgazer wrote:
HapSmo19 wrote:Anyway, the question:
Other than crocodile tears, what do you think these hypocrits will come up with to keep your children from being murdered(physically) at school?


They're going to ban rifles, and probably some of the magazines.

NOT that this will keep children from being murdered by some nut job; but because science hasn't advanced far enough to address the real problem: how to detect the nut job before the nut cracks; and because politicians and parents won't want to admit, "there's really nothing we CAN do to prevent a nut job from cracking."

For those into "percentages" please compute the numbers of guns available in the US; of those numbers, how many were used to perpetrate child killings (or adult killings, for that matter?)

My guess is: not even 1%


Maths is not my forte but whatever % it is hardly matters, given there are nearly 300m guns in the US,that translates as more guns used in killings than a country that has less,ie the rest of the world.It's lunacy to get to the point where so many are in private hands in the first place.
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Re: Just A Quick Question On Keeping Children Safe

Postby chang50 on Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:38 am

Phatscotty wrote:
stahrgazer wrote:
HapSmo19 wrote:Anyway, the question:
Other than crocodile tears, what do you think these hypocrits will come up with to keep your children from being murdered(physically) at school?


They're going to ban rifles, and probably some of the magazines.

NOT that this will keep children from being murdered by some nut job; but because science hasn't advanced far enough to address the real problem: how to detect the nut job before the nut cracks; and because politicians and parents won't want to admit, "there's really nothing we CAN do to prevent a nut job from cracking."

For those into "percentages" please compute the numbers of guns available in the US; of those numbers, how many were used to perpetrate child killings (or adult killings, for that matter?)

My guess is: not even 1%


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0.1% of 300m is still a mind -boggling 300k guns used in violent crime,and this is something to be proud of?
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Re: Just A Quick Question On Keeping Children Safe

Postby pimpdave on Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:40 am

There should be a law requiring all children to wear kevlar vests at all times outside the home as well as a full face helmet until the age of 18. Might cut down on teen pregnancy too.
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Re: Just A Quick Question On Keeping Children Safe

Postby PLAYER57832 on Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:24 am

HapSmo19 wrote:Since killing four people in Benghazi, Hillary Clinton has decided that the best thing to do is send hundreds of Marines to beef-up security at embassies and diplomatic missions around the world.
Ernst Rahm, of chicago, called La Pierre's recommendation of putting an armed police officer in every school in the country "outrageous and unsettling" and "out of touch". This guy has armed security personnel around him at all times.
There are snipers on the roof of the white house. Obama is covered by a very large and heavily armed security detail. His children are protected by many, many people...with guns.

Anyway, the question:
Other than crocodile tears, what do you think these hypocrits will come up with to keep your children from being murdered(physically) at school?

The convention to treat civilians and military individuals differently than civilians goes back a couple hundred years at least. (the rise of the Red Cross, then the Geneva conventions, etc, etc). Those who harm children and civilians in war are termed "terrorists".. or were up until recently. Now changing war tactics and abilities are changing that demarcation of where civilian life ends and military life begins.

That said, those who target children, particularly in non-political manners such as we see here are plain criminals and true terrorists. The answer to protecting children is not to put them in armed camps, it is to return to the basic standard that children are not pawns of war or fighting.

Beyond that, you are talking about preventing criminality..and that is a very different animal from protection soldiers and defensive positions in a foreign country that even if supposed to be peaceful will still be targets in any war.

Or, to put it more simply -- Embassies in foreign countries and schools in our own country are not at all the same thing and the requirements of each are very different.
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Re: Just A Quick Question On Keeping Children Safe

Postby comic boy on Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:08 am

Rambo will sort it out , the real one ,not the Phat wanabees with their armies of pretend buddies.
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Re: Just A Quick Question On Keeping Children Safe

Postby HapSmo19 on Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:11 pm

PLAYER57832 wrote:
HapSmo19 wrote:Since killing four people in Benghazi, Hillary Clinton has decided that the best thing to do is send hundreds of Marines to beef-up security at embassies and diplomatic missions around the world.
Ernst Rahm, of chicago, called La Pierre's recommendation of putting an armed police officer in every school in the country "outrageous and unsettling" and "out of touch". This guy has armed security personnel around him at all times.
There are snipers on the roof of the white house. Obama is covered by a very large and heavily armed security detail. His children are protected by many, many people...with guns.

Anyway, the question:
Other than crocodile tears, what do you think these hypocrits will come up with to keep your children from being murdered(physically) at school?

The convention to treat civilians and military individuals differently than civilians goes back a couple hundred years at least. (the rise of the Red Cross, then the Geneva conventions, etc, etc). Those who harm children and civilians in war are termed "terrorists".. or were up until recently. Now changing war tactics and abilities are changing that demarcation of where civilian life ends and military life begins.

That said, those who target children, particularly in non-political manners such as we see here are plain criminals and true terrorists. The answer to protecting children is not to put them in armed camps, it is to return to the basic standard that children are not pawns of war or fighting.

Beyond that, you are talking about preventing criminality..and that is a very different animal from protection soldiers and defensive positions in a foreign country that even if supposed to be peaceful will still be targets in any war.

Or, to put it more simply -- Embassies in foreign countries and schools in our own country are not at all the same thing and the requirements of each are very different.

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Re: Just A Quick Question On Keeping Children Safe

Postby jonesthecurl on Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:17 pm

I think we should just arm all the toddlers.
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Re: Just A Quick Question On Keeping Children Safe

Postby HapSmo19 on Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:27 pm

chang50 wrote:
HapSmo19 wrote:
chang50 wrote:
HapSmo19 wrote:Since killing four people in Benghazi, Hillary Clinton has decided that the best thing to do is send hundreds of Marines to beef-up security at embassies and diplomatic missions around the world.
Ernst Rahm, of chicago, called La Pierre's recommendation of putting an armed police officer in every school in the country "outrageous and unsettling" and "out of touch". This guy has armed security personnel around him at all times.
There are snipers on the roof of the white house. Obama is covered by a very large and heavily armed security detail. His children are protected by many, many people...with guns.

Anyway, the question:
Other than crocodile tears, what do you think these hypocrits will come up with to keep your children from being murdered(physically) at school?


Well allowing your country to become saturated to insane levels with guns,nearly 1 per head of a population of over 300m.,making it practically impossible to stop bad guys accesssing them easily, because of a slavish obsession to an archaic document,makes such a lot of sense doesn't it?

Is this the "answer a question with a question" thread?
I thought this one was pretty simple.
Just tell me what you think they will do to keep the schools safe.


Thing is because of the saturation level of guns in your country there is very little they can do quickly,any solution involving reducing numbers will take years to implement and be met with fanatical resistance.It takes a special kind of stupid to get to where the US is now with its guns policy.

What can be done quickly to keep children from being murdered at school?
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Re: Just A Quick Question On Keeping Children Safe

Postby HapSmo19 on Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:33 pm

stahrgazer wrote:
HapSmo19 wrote:Anyway, the question:
Other than crocodile tears, what do you think these hypocrits will come up with to keep your children from being murdered(physically) at school?


They're going to ban rifles, and probably some of the magazines.

NOT that this will keep children from being murdered by some nut job; but because science hasn't advanced far enough to address the real problem: how to detect the nut job before the nut cracks; and because politicians and parents won't want to admit, "there's really nothing we CAN do to prevent a nut job from cracking."

For those into "percentages" please compute the numbers of guns available in the US; of those numbers, how many were used to perpetrate child killings (or adult killings, for that matter?)

My guess is: not even 1%

Thankyou for answering the question honestly.
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Re: Just A Quick Question On Keeping Children Safe

Postby jonesthecurl on Sun Dec 23, 2012 2:54 pm

HapSmo19 wrote:
chang50 wrote:
HapSmo19 wrote:
chang50 wrote:
HapSmo19 wrote:Since killing four people in Benghazi, Hillary Clinton has decided that the best thing to do is send hundreds of Marines to beef-up security at embassies and diplomatic missions around the world.
Ernst Rahm, of chicago, called La Pierre's recommendation of putting an armed police officer in every school in the country "outrageous and unsettling" and "out of touch". This guy has armed security personnel around him at all times.
There are snipers on the roof of the white house. Obama is covered by a very large and heavily armed security detail. His children are protected by many, many people...with guns.

Anyway, the question:
Other than crocodile tears, what do you think these hypocrits will come up with to keep your children from being murdered(physically) at school?


Well allowing your country to become saturated to insane levels with guns,nearly 1 per head of a population of over 300m.,making it practically impossible to stop bad guys accesssing them easily, because of a slavish obsession to an archaic document,makes such a lot of sense doesn't it?

Is this the "answer a question with a question" thread?
I thought this one was pretty simple.
Just tell me what you think they will do to keep the schools safe.




Thing is because of the saturation level of guns in your country there is very little they can do quickly,any solution involving reducing numbers will take years to implement and be met with fanatical resistance.It takes a special kind of stupid to get to where the US is now with its guns policy.

What can be done quickly to keep children from being murdered at school?


Well, for a start, you obviously don't let them out at recess.
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Re: Just A Quick Question On Keeping Children Safe

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:50 pm

chang50 wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
stahrgazer wrote:
HapSmo19 wrote:Anyway, the question:
Other than crocodile tears, what do you think these hypocrits will come up with to keep your children from being murdered(physically) at school?


They're going to ban rifles, and probably some of the magazines.

NOT that this will keep children from being murdered by some nut job; but because science hasn't advanced far enough to address the real problem: how to detect the nut job before the nut cracks; and because politicians and parents won't want to admit, "there's really nothing we CAN do to prevent a nut job from cracking."

For those into "percentages" please compute the numbers of guns available in the US; of those numbers, how many were used to perpetrate child killings (or adult killings, for that matter?)

My guess is: not even 1%


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0.1% of 300m is still a mind -boggling 300k guns used in violent crime,and this is something to be proud of?


Why would I be proud of that? That's why we have a hard time communicating, you say the weirdest shit. However, does it make sense to crack down on the other 99.9%????

You are arguing the exception is all
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