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The creeping threat that no one has woken up to

Postby mrswdk on Sat Nov 09, 2013 10:11 am

www.dailywealth.com/1573/america-communist-country

Until World War I, the central government of the United States, for example, played a small role in the lives of its citizens. Its powers were strictly limited, as were its revenues. It was specifically barred from taxing citizens directly. It was a humble government that interacted with the individual states in the union, but didn't interact much with individual citizens.

The first signs of change came after the Civil War. "Progressive" ideas began to emerge. Most of these ideas came from Germany, from philosophers like Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels. The core of these ideas was that the State itself was superior to its citizens. Therefore, the argument went, society ought to be organized to better accomplish the goals of the State.

Today, most Americans have no idea that the foundations of our modern State are based - nearly verbatim - on the demands of Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto.


The extent to which the United States of Awesome has slid towards the Marxist ideal is shocking. If you don't believe me then read the list in the article.
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Re: The creeping threat that no one has woken up to

Postby khazalid on Sat Nov 09, 2013 10:29 am

your 2+2 are making a 5
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Re: The creeping threat that no one has woken up to

Postby isaiah40 on Sat Nov 09, 2013 11:00 am

Here are the ten planks of the communist manifesto so don't laugh as this is happening in the united States of America RIGHT NOW!

TEN PLANKS OF THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO

Could this be happening in America? If so, how?

Our "elected representatives" have passed laws implementing these anti-freedom concepts. The communists have achieved a de facto FEDERAL SOCIALIST GOVERNMENT in America.

In 1848 Karl Marx and Frederick Engels wrote a book outlining a political ideology, titled "The Communist Manifesto". Marxism's basic theme is that the proletariat (the "exploited" working class of a capitalistic society) will suffer from alienation and will rise up against the "bourgeoisie" (the middle class) and overthrow the system of "capitalism." After a brief period of rule by "the dictatorship of the proletariat" the classless society of communism would emerge. In his Manifesto Marx described the following ten steps as necessary steps to be taken to destroy a free enterprise society!! Notice how many of these conditions, foreign to the principles that America was founded upon, have now, in 1997, been realized by the concerted efforts of socialist activists? Remember, government interference in your daily life and business is intrusion and deprivation of our liberties!

First Plank: Abolition of property in land and the application of all rents of land to public purposes. (Zoning - Model ordinances proposed by Secretary of Commerce Herbert Hoover widely adopted. Supreme Court ruled "zoning" to be "constitutional" in 1921. Private owners of property required to get permission from government relative to the use of their property. Federally owned lands are leased for grazing, mining, timber usages, the fees being paid into the U.S. Treasury.)

Second Plank: A heavy progressive or graduated incometax. (Corporate Tax Act of 1909. The 16th Amendment, allegedly ratified in 1913. The Revenue Act of 1913, section 2, Income Tax. These laws have been purposely misapplied against American citizens to this day.)

Third Plank: Abolition of all rights of inheritance. (Partially accomplished by enactment of various state and federal "estate tax" laws taxing the "privilege" of transfering property after death and gift before death.)

Fourth Plank: CONFISCATION OF THE PROPERTY OF ALL EMIGRANTS AND REBELS. (The confiscation of property and persecution of those critical - "rebels" - of government policies and actions, frequently accomplished by prosecuting them in a courtroom drama on charges of violations of non-existing administrative or regulatory laws.)

Fifth Plank: Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly. (The Federal Reserve Bank, 1913- -the system of privately-owned Federal Reserve banks which maintain a monopoly on the valueless debt "money" in circulation.)

Sixth Plank: Centralization of the means of communications and transportation in the hands of the State. (Federal Radio Commission, 1927; Federal Communications Commission, 1934; Air Commerce Act of 1926; Civil Aeronautics Act of 1938; Federal Aviation Agency, 1958; becoming part of the Department of Transportation in 1966; Federal Highway Act of 1916 (federal funds made available to States for highway construction); Interstate Highway System, 1944 (funding began 1956); Interstate Commerce Commission given authority by Congress to regulate trucking and carriers on inland waterways, 1935-40; Department of Transportation, 1966.)

Seventh Plank: Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan. (Depart-ment of Agriculture, 1862; Agriculture Adjustment Act of 1933 -- farmers will receive government aid if and only if they relinquish control of farming activities; Tennessee Valley Authority, 1933 with the Hoover Dam completed in 1936.)

Eighth Plank: Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of industrial armies especially for agriculture. (First labor unions, known as federations, appeared in 1820. National Labor Union established 1866. American Federation of Labor established 1886. Interstate Commerce Act of 1887 placed railways under federal regulation. Department of Labor, 1913. Labor-management negotiations sanctioned under Railway Labor Act of 1926. Civil Works Administration, 1933. National Labor Relations Act of 1935, stated purpose to free inter-state commerce from disruptive strikes by eliminating the cause of the strike. Works Progress Administration 1935. Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938, mandated 40-hour work week and time-and-a-half for overtime, set "minimum wage" scale. Civil Rights Act of 1964, effectively the equal liability of all to labor.)

Ninth Plank: Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries, gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of population over the country. (Food processing companies, with the co-operation of the Farmers Home Administration foreclosures, are buying up farms and creating "conglomerates.")

Tenth Plank: Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production. (Gradual shift from private education to publicly funded began in the Northern States, early 1800's. 1887: federal money (unconstitutionally) began funding specialized education. Smith-Lever Act of 1914, vocational education; Smith-Hughes Act of 1917 and other relief acts of the 1930's. Federal school lunch program of 1935; National School Lunch Act of 1946. National Defense Education Act of 1958, a reaction to Russia's Sputnik satellite demonstration, provided grants to education's specialties. Federal school aid law passed, 1965, greatly enlarged federal role in education, "head-start" programs, textbooks, library books.

(Research source: Encyclopedia Britannica.)
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Re: The creeping threat that no one has woken up to

Postby khazalid on Sat Nov 09, 2013 11:11 am

good grief. mccarthy has well and truly risen
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Re: The creeping threat that no one has woken up to

Postby muy_thaiguy on Sat Nov 09, 2013 11:27 am

Here's the TRUE creeping threat!

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Re: The creeping threat that no one has woken up to

Postby Metsfanmax on Sat Nov 09, 2013 12:57 pm

isaiah40 wrote:
TEN PLANKS OF THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO

Second Plank: A heavy progressive or graduated incometax. (Corporate Tax Act of 1909. The 16th Amendment, allegedly ratified in 1913. The Revenue Act of 1913, section 2, Income Tax. These laws have been purposely misapplied against American citizens to this day.)


Allegedly ratified? Do you believe that the 16th Amendment was not, in fact, ratified?
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Re: The creeping threat that no one has woken up to

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Nov 09, 2013 3:57 pm

After having re-reviewed Marx and Engel's Demands of the Communist Party (1848), I have come to the conclusion the American politicians Alexander Hamilton, Thomas Jefferson, and John Adams were secretly communists. The conspiracy runs deeper than we thought. You know what that means? This.

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Demands of the Communist Party wrote:Representatives of the people shall receive payment so that workers, too, shall be able to become members of the German parliament.

U.S. Constitution (Article I, Section 6) wrote:The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States.

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Demands of the Communist Party wrote:Universal arming of the people.


U.S. Constitution (Amendment II) wrote: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


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Demands of the Communist Party wrote:All feudal obligations, dues, corvƩes, tithes etc., which have hitherto weighed upon the rural population, shall be abolished without compensation.


U.S. Constitution (Article I, Section 9) wrote:No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.


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Demands of the Communist Party wrote:The clergy of every denomination shall be paid only by the voluntary contributions of their congregations.


U.S. Constitution (Amendment I) wrote:Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism

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Re: The creeping threat that no one has woken up to

Postby Phatscotty on Sat Nov 09, 2013 7:40 pm

I wouldn't say 'no one'
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Re: The creeping threat that no one has woken up to

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Nov 09, 2013 7:44 pm

saxitoxin wrote:After having re-reviewed Marx and Engel's Demands of the Communist Party (1848), I have come to the conclusion the American politicians Alexander Hamilton, Thomas Jefferson, and John Adams were secretly communists. The conspiracy runs deeper than we thought. You know what that means? This.

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Demands of the Communist Party wrote:Representatives of the people shall receive payment so that workers, too, shall be able to become members of the German parliament.

U.S. Constitution (Article I, Section 6) wrote:The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States.

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Demands of the Communist Party wrote:Universal arming of the people.


U.S. Constitution (Amendment II) wrote: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


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Demands of the Communist Party wrote:All feudal obligations, dues, corvƩes, tithes etc., which have hitherto weighed upon the rural population, shall be abolished without compensation.


U.S. Constitution (Article I, Section 9) wrote:No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.


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Demands of the Communist Party wrote:The clergy of every denomination shall be paid only by the voluntary contributions of their congregations.


U.S. Constitution (Amendment I) wrote:Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion

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Re: The creeping threat that no one has woken up to

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Nov 09, 2013 8:10 pm

Dukasaur wrote:No matter how many times you knock them back, their type always comes back, doesn't it?


anti-communist activist ...

Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism

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Re: The creeping threat that no one has woken up to

Postby betiko on Sat Nov 09, 2013 8:16 pm

I like how "communist" is at least as much of a swear word as "terrorist" to you americans.
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Re: The creeping threat that no one has woken up to

Postby AndyDufresne on Sat Nov 09, 2013 8:47 pm

betiko wrote:I like how "communist" is at least as much of a swear word as "terrorist" to you americans.


Betiko is a commerrorist. Terrommunist. This isn't working.


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Re: The creeping threat that no one has woken up to

Postby Lootifer on Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:27 pm

Terrorist pinko?
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Re: The creeping threat that no one has woken up to

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:25 am

Pinkie T.


This is our code word.
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Re: The creeping threat that no one has woken up to

Postby mrswdk on Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:30 am

And on top of all the charges we've already identified, don't forget the political persecution through the taxation system etc. that is being increasingly exposed by the freedom-minded who still thankfully exist among us. Americans don't want the USSA (United Socialist States of America), they want the freedom to earn a good wage, spend it how they wish and not have their every move recorded by the government militia's surveillance drones. Let the Russians have their police state and political persecution, and let the USA have freedom of expression, freedom of thought, freedom to vote.

The propaganda war has started. 'Bankers' are now the enemy of the 'people'. The bourgeoisie elite are the 1% whom the media pushes the 'ordinary people' to resist. This leadership and its media running dogs want to make capitalism the enemy. Don't fall for it. Speak up for democracy before it is too late.
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Re: The creeping threat that no one has woken up to

Postby Frigidus on Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:15 am

mrswdk wrote:The propaganda war has started. 'Bankers' are now the enemy of the 'people'. The bourgeoisie elite are the 1% whom the media pushes the 'ordinary people' to resist. This leadership and its media running dogs want to make capitalism the enemy. Don't fall for it. Speak up for democracy before it is too late.


Yeah, those poor bankers are being persecuted by the evil commies. I mean, does this sound like the kind of email an 'enemy of the people' would write?

Fabrice Tourre wrote:More and more leverage in the system, The whole building is about to collapse anytime now...Only potential survivor, the fabulous Fab[rice Tourre]...standing in the middle of all these complex, highly leveraged, exotic trades he created without necessarily understanding all of the implications of those monstruosities!!!


Not included is the maniacal laughter he let forth while he was typing.
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Re: The creeping threat that no one has woken up to

Postby mrswdk on Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:00 am

The fact remains that the 'common man' is being mobilised against the 'elite 1%'. Your caricature of greed (which I doubt is even real) is just a marketing ploy, and you are falling for it.

That email is such pantomime propaganda. In your mind, does Fabrice Tourre look like this?

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Re: The creeping threat that no one has woken up to

Postby Frigidus on Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:14 am

mrswdk wrote:The fact remains that the 'common man' is being mobilised against the 'elite 1%'. Your caricature of greed (which I doubt is even real) is just a marketing ploy, and you are falling for it.


Hahaha, you doubt it's real? A quick Google search of the dude's name would have shown you it's real. At the time he wrote that he was employed by Goldman Sachs.

http://www.businessinsider.com/hold-on-the-real-fabulous-fab-email-emerges-and-its-totally-different-than-the-secs-version-2010-4

Shit, he was found guilty of fraud earlier this summer.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/08/01/goldman-trader-fabrice-tourre-reaction/2609717/

This isn't some James Bond villain, this is the modern American capitalist. f*ck society, you're only interested in yourself and your company's success.
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Re: The creeping threat that no one has woken up to

Postby warmonger1981 on Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:13 am

If Im not mistaken the dialectic process did not start with Marx but he learned his philosophy from G.W.F. Hegel and Fichte. So I believe it was Hegel who thought the State was superior before Marx. Their system is based from one philosophical system: Hegelianism. Remember the State is a fictitious element of the mind described by Plechanoff in "Anarchism and Socialism".
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Re: The creeping threat that no one has woken up to

Postby mrswdk on Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:10 am

It's one man. Hell, if you want to pick up a pitchfork and take to the streets just because your communist masters have presented you with a scapegoat then feel free. The police will stop you and put you in a cell, where you can have a nice, long think about who's really to blame for your problems

Progressivism/socialism/communism: taking someone else's money while blaming them for your problems. Talk about refusing to take responsibility for your own life.
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Re: The creeping threat that no one has woken up to

Postby Metsfanmax on Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:06 am

mrswdk wrote:It's one man. Hell, if you want to pick up a pitchfork and take to the streets just because your communist masters have presented you with a scapegoat then feel free. The police will stop you and put you in a cell, where you can have a nice, long think about who's really to blame for your problems

Progressivism/socialism/communism: taking someone else's money while blaming them for your problems. Talk about refusing to take responsibility for your own life.


There's a simple solution to all of this. Let's just have a one-time 'get out of jail free' card. We'll divide the country into two regions, and people can choose which place they want to live: the place where you agree to live as part of a community and share some of your wealth if you have more than you need, and Texas.
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Re: The creeping threat that no one has woken up to

Postby mrswdk on Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:40 pm

Some US citizens already tried to separate themselves and establish a place where people could live away from the Marxist ideal, but the pigs in the White House couldn't tolerate it and sent in the big guns to crush the dissenters.

And people like to pretend that the Warsaw Pact was a Russian idea. Washington has been enforcing a Warsaw Pact over the union ever since the day the British crown relinquished control.
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Re: The creeping threat that no one has woken up to

Postby Lootifer on Sun Nov 10, 2013 3:26 pm

@ OP:
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'Cause im pretty sure Dora is all over that shit
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Re: The creeping threat that no one has woken up to

Postby Lootifer on Sun Nov 10, 2013 3:33 pm

mrswdk wrote:Progressivism/socialism/communism: taking someone else's money while blaming them for your problems. Talk about refusing to take responsibility for your own life.

I like how you speak out against the use of propaganda/manipulation on one side yet embrace it on the other.

Don't get me wrong, there is a whole lot wrong with the US government, but I think (as myself and others have eluded to by being satirical in this thread) targetting communists isn't particularly useful.
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