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Re: A thread about etiquette

Postby mrswdk on Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:17 pm

This is good. Outdated culture and tradition ought to be destroyed, not preserved. Out with the old world, in with the new.
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Re: A thread about etiquette

Postby mrswdk on Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:33 pm

Most forms of politeness I can think of are either outdated (in the sense of being feudal or patriarchal) or are cold and distancing (e.g. thanking). Cut it all out, make human interaction both more egalitarian and efficient - double winz!
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Re: A thread about etiquette

Postby Dukasaur on Fri Jul 24, 2015 1:07 pm

Boorishness is not efficiency, as much as boors like to think it is.
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Re: A thread about etiquette

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Jul 24, 2015 1:22 pm

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Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism

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Re: A thread about etiquette

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Jul 24, 2015 1:23 pm

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Re: A thread about etiquette

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Fri Jul 24, 2015 1:28 pm

I work for an American company. We took offence when we find out the official work attire policy. Shirt and tie for us, anything less and we wouldnt be professional!
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Re: A thread about etiquette

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Jul 24, 2015 1:34 pm

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:I work for an American company. We took offence when we find out the official work attire policy. Shirt and tie for us, anything less and we wouldnt be professional!


Some American companies let you wear just the tie.

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Re: A thread about etiquette

Postby mrswdk on Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:25 pm

Dukasaur wrote:Boorishness is not efficiency, as much as boors like to think it is.


Where did I imply boorishness?
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Re: A thread about etiquette

Postby Dukasaur on Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:36 pm

mrswdk wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:Boorishness is not efficiency, as much as boors like to think it is.


Where did I imply boorishness?

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Subject: A thread about etiquette

mrswdk wrote:Most forms of politeness I can think of are either outdated (in the sense of being feudal or patriarchal) or are cold and distancing (e.g. thanking). Cut it all out, make human interaction both more egalitarian and efficient - double winz!


Cutting out politeness = boorishness.
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Re: A thread about etiquette

Postby notyou2 on Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:47 pm

I agree with Duk. Saying thank you is not outdated. More people should practice it. It puts smiles on faces.
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Re: A thread about etiquette

Postby mrswdk on Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:56 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:Boorishness is not efficiency, as much as boors like to think it is.


Where did I imply boorishness?

Here:
Subject: A thread about etiquette

mrswdk wrote:Most forms of politeness I can think of are either outdated (in the sense of being feudal or patriarchal) or are cold and distancing (e.g. thanking). Cut it all out, make human interaction both more egalitarian and efficient - double winz!


Cutting out politeness = boorishness.


You can be direct and cut away unnecessary formalities and niceties without being 'boorish' (which means crudely and insensitively rude).
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Re: A thread about etiquette

Postby mrswdk on Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:56 pm

notyou2 wrote:I agree with Duk. Saying thank you is not outdated. More people should practice it. It puts smiles on faces.


I didn't say 'thank you' is outdated. I said it's cold and distancing.
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Re: A thread about etiquette

Postby mrswdk on Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:01 pm

Anyways, what about the 1000000 other aspects of culture and tradition that are not politeness?
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Re: A thread about etiquette

Postby apey on Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:03 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:I work for an American company. We took offence when we find out the official work attire policy. Shirt and tie for us, anything less and we wouldnt be professional!


Some American companies let you wear just the tie.

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Re: A thread about etiquette

Postby mrswdk on Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:04 pm

Do all American guys wax their chests, or just the sex workers?
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Re: A thread about etiquette

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:15 pm

mrswdk wrote:Do all American guys wax their chests, or just the sex workers?


We're trying to have a fucking civilization here, Chewbacca.
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Re: A thread about etiquette

Postby Dukasaur on Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:18 pm

mrswdk wrote:Anyways, what about the 1000000 other aspects of culture and tradition that are not politeness?

They help us feel anchored in our social environment, and thus are calming and soothing. Unfamiliar things create tension, ergo familiar things reduce tension.
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Re: A thread about etiquette

Postby mrswdk on Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:29 pm

The destruction of old culture and traditions is the only thing that came out of the Cultural Revolution which I would consider to be positive. Tradition traps you in a world which has already been and gone. It leaves you less able to adapt to change and the emergence of new orders.

Tradition belongs in the bin with religion, spirituality, morals and all the other comfort blankets that people use to disengage from reality.
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Re: A thread about etiquette

Postby notyou2 on Fri Jul 24, 2015 5:43 pm

mrswdk wrote:
notyou2 wrote:I agree with Duk. Saying thank you is not outdated. More people should practice it. It puts smiles on faces.


I didn't say 'thank you' is outdated. I said it's cold and distancing.[/quote

And I say expressing your sincere thanks is warm and smileyfacey
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Re: A thread about etiquette

Postby mrswdk on Sat Jul 25, 2015 1:44 am

Careful now. Using terms like '99%' and '1%' puts you dangerously close to warmonger territory.
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