Should This Pig Be Charged With Assault?

[Johnny Rockets]

I knew this guy, who for whatever reason (the reason is irrelevant and would only serve to distract and engender favour for his actions, when his actions are unimportant) spat on a police officer. For his troubles he had the utter shit kicked out of him and his arm broken, he deserved it though, how dare he even consider challenging authority in any way. He should be thankful too, in some countries he might've been murdered for spitting at a cop.

The woman in the gif should be thankful, in some countries she would be raped and/or murdered for kicking out at a police officer.

Yeah, but did your buddy LEARN anything? Perhaps keep his mouth shut, and his spit in it?
What the hell would YOU do if someone spit in your face for nothing less that because you were doing your job?
Really. Serious question. Because if that person walked away with a simple beating and a fucking broken arm after doing that to me it must have been his Goddamned birthday and I had a stomach flu.

In a similar vein, the people of the US should be happy--no matter what!, because people in Zimbabwe got it so much worse!

The Tea Party Death Squads, oh they're so bad! But hey! In another time and place, the SS were hunting Jews and killing them! Thank God we have the TPDS!!

States the shit who claims the moniker of the largest mass murderer this planet has ever seen.

I love it when you holier than thou's climb out of some Vagina to grab the always open stance of : I can act as irresponsible as I want but any form of authority has to play by teh Rulez!

If you can't see through that thin veneer of humanity that any invested authority represents, then I've seriously overestimated your net worth.

JRock

[john9blue]

I knew this guy, who for whatever reason (the reason is irrelevant and would only serve to distract and engender favour for his actions, when his actions are unimportant) spat on a police officer. For his troubles he had the utter shit kicked out of him and his arm broken, he deserved it though, how dare he even consider challenging authority in any way. He should be thankful too, in some countries he might've been murdered for spitting at a cop.

The woman in the gif should be thankful, in some countries she would be raped and/or murdered for kicking out at a police officer.

Yeah, but did your buddy LEARN anything? Perhaps keep his mouth shut, and his spit in it?
What the hell would YOU do if someone spit in your face for nothing less that because you were doing your job?
Really. Serious question. Because if that person walked away with a simple beating and a fucking broken arm after doing that to me it must have been his Goddamned birthday and I had a stomach flu.

In a similar vein, the people of the US should be happy--no matter what!, because people in Zimbabwe got it so much worse!

The Tea Party Death Squads, oh they're so bad! But hey! In another time and place, the SS were hunting Jews and killing them! Thank God we have the TPDS!!

States the shit who claims the moniker of the largest mass murderer this planet has ever seen.

I love it when you holier than thou's climb out of some Vagina to grab the always open stance of : I can act as irresponsible as I want but any form of authority has to play by teh Rulez!

If you can't see through that thin veneer of humanity that any invested authority represents, then I've seriously overestimated your net worth.

JRock

why would you break the arm of someone who spat on you? isn't that a bit of an overreaction?

also, it's rather hard to spit on someone's face unless you are very close to them or there is a significant height difference.

also also, i think mao murdered more people

[BigBallinStalin]

I knew this guy, who for whatever reason (the reason is irrelevant and would only serve to distract and engender favour for his actions, when his actions are unimportant) spat on a police officer. For his troubles he had the utter shit kicked out of him and his arm broken, he deserved it though, how dare he even consider challenging authority in any way. He should be thankful too, in some countries he might've been murdered for spitting at a cop.

The woman in the gif should be thankful, in some countries she would be raped and/or murdered for kicking out at a police officer.

Yeah, but did your buddy LEARN anything? Perhaps keep his mouth shut, and his spit in it?
What the hell would YOU do if someone spit in your face for nothing less that because you were doing your job?

Well, if you work in the private sector, chances are if you kick the shit outta someone and break their arm because they spat on you, you are going to jail and will incur some serious fines.

If you're a cop, chances are you'll get a warning. If not a warning, maybe you get suspended (aw, shucks, like a time-out).


As for my other comment, it's a joke. I thought the ridiculous comparisons were enough to make it obvious.

[Johnny Rockets]

Wow....Really sorry about that. Was a bit intoxicated last night and kinda went over the top there. Didn't see the joke, and overreacted like a schmuck.


Mao vs Uncle Joe?

Yeah....you're right 48 to 78 million compared to 23.


J

[Woodruff]

What the hell would YOU do if someone spit in your face for nothing less that because you were doing your job?

It happened to me in Oklahoma City in the 80s, simply because I was in a fast-food restaurant in my military uniform. Somehow, I managed to keep my composure and let a couple of other customers escort the jackass out the door. It's unfortunate that someone in law enforcement has less ability to control themselves than someone just out of high school.

Really. Serious question. Because if that person walked away with a simple beating and a fucking broken arm after doing that to me it must have been his Goddamned birthday and I had a stomach flu.

If I had reacted, I would likely have faced a court-martial, as I should have. That isn't worth the momentary pleasure derived from beating on someone. One of the biggest problems seen in today's American police forces is that there isn't enough done to punitively react to these sorts of actions.

I love it when you holier than thou's climb out of some Vagina to grab the always open stance of : I can act as irresponsible as I want but any form of authority has to play by teh Rulez!

I don't believe you've ever seen me make any such claim.

[pimpdave]

[notyou2]

She should be grateful that she lives in the Western world, where her law-breaking (evidenced by her handcuffs) and following aggression towards authority (assaulting a police officer) result in no more than a quick slap. She's damn lucky (and society damn unlucky) that an arsehole like her is now being heralded as the victim of police brutality, and not the grubby criminal that she is.

http://www.nospank.net/n-j17.htm

That's right, GUILTY before being proven innocent. They should change the laws to reflect this new system of Barack's.

[Woodruff]

Clearly, she deserved that for...walking away in a manner unbecoming...or something.

[Chariot of Fire]

That's just a drunk guy heading home from a fancy dress party who tripped up on the sidewalk

[AAFitz]

Clearly, she deserved that for...walking away in a manner unbecoming...or something.

Thats hard to watch

[stahrgazer]

Somewhere along the line you have to put a little faith in the authority that put her ass on the curb and handcuffed her. Do you fear authority so much that you automatically consider it corrupt and with ulterior self serving motives? Why is that? Do you live in fear a lot? I'm thinking yes.

It takes 1/2 an hour and a pint of scotch to make a violent, belligerent asshole, and anyone can sign up.
It takes considerable more time, training, and resources to become a police officer. So lets put our money on the trained professionals instead of Mrs. Ira Sponsible, mmmmm..Kay?

IF you are stupid enough to assault anyone with that kind of authority when you are at your most vulnerable, you deserve your free lesson in physics. If you were raised properly, you'll get it the first time.

Also: Part of maintaining authority, crowd control,and keeping a violent unpredictable situation from escalating is to counter any challenge or attack with a definitive show of force to ensure that you don't show the crowd around you that it's acceptable to wrestle that control from you.
One kick in the head discourages any other drunken retards or friends of retards from jumping in and thus escalation the situation even further, risking more bodily damage or even loss of life.
You could understand this logic if you would step out of that idealistic dream world you breast feed in.

JRock

This same "well-trained officer" was previously convicted of assaulting 3 joggers for flipping him the bird when he veered toward him in his civilian car. (He stopped the car with his family in it in order to assault the joggers.)

This same "well-trained officer" neglected to write up this (you claim "needed") method of crowd control in his report.

This "well-trained officer" has now probably subjected the city who gave him that training and uniform to a major lawsuit.

And if there was a crowd of other drunken retards or friends ready to jump in, then the "well-trained officer" is at fault for turning his back on them before they were subdued, because his partner was standing there over the handcuffed woman, too.

[Phatscotty]

Keeping law and order is serious business. Police and Judges are always going to respond swiftly and definitively to all acts of disrespect, no matter how big or how small. Once we start letting people treat our neighborhood authorities in these ways, it's a slippery slope down a path of lawlessness. If the peacekeepers are wrong as happens from time to time, it's not like they are beyond reproach. Police departments still get sued, cops still get punished or fired,and judges can be disbarred etc.

It's just like the hall monitor in school. If some kids gets away with smacking him/her, none of the other students are going to respect the hall monitor and there will be no order. The correct thing to do when it comes to enforcement is to send a strong message right away that these kinds of things will not be tolerated and will usually make an example out of the first punk who tries to break the system down.

[pimpdave]

Clearly, she deserved that for...walking away in a manner unbecoming...or something.

Thats hard to watch

Probably why so many cops support those laws that make it illegal to video tape police brutality. It's hard to juke the report when this evidence exists.

[Woodruff]

Keeping law and order is serious business. Police and Judges are always going to respond swiftly and definitively to all acts of disrespect, no matter how big or how small. Once we start letting people treat our neighborhood authorities in these ways, it's a slippery slope down a path of lawlessness. If the peacekeepers are wrong as happens from time to time, it's not like they are beyond reproach. Police departments still get sued, cops still get punished or fired,and judges can be disbarred etc.

It's just like the hall monitor in school. If some kids gets away with smacking him/her, none of the other students are going to respect the hall monitor and there will be no order. The correct thing to do when it comes to enforcement is to send a strong message right away that these kinds of things will not be tolerated and will usually make an example out of the first punk who tries to break the system down.

With authority comes responsibility. If you can't handle the responsibility, then you should not be allowed to continue in that position of authority.

[Woodruff]

Probably why so many cops support those laws that make it illegal to video tape police brutality. It's hard to juke the report when this evidence exists.

Without question.

[Johnny Rockets]

Somewhere along the line you have to put a little faith in the authority that put her ass on the curb and handcuffed her. Do you fear authority so much that you automatically consider it corrupt and with ulterior self serving motives? Why is that? Do you live in fear a lot? I'm thinking yes.

It takes 1/2 an hour and a pint of scotch to make a violent, belligerent asshole, and anyone can sign up.
It takes considerable more time, training, and resources to become a police officer. So lets put our money on the trained professionals instead of Mrs. Ira Sponsible, mmmmm..Kay?

IF you are stupid enough to assault anyone with that kind of authority when you are at your most vulnerable, you deserve your free lesson in physics. If you were raised properly, you'll get it the first time.

Also: Part of maintaining authority, crowd control,and keeping a violent unpredictable situation from escalating is to counter any challenge or attack with a definitive show of force to ensure that you don't show the crowd around you that it's acceptable to wrestle that control from you.
One kick in the head discourages any other drunken retards or friends of retards from jumping in and thus escalation the situation even further, risking more bodily damage or even loss of life.
You could understand this logic if you would step out of that idealistic dream world you breast feed in.

JRock

This same "well-trained officer" was previously convicted of assaulting 3 joggers for flipping him the bird when he veered toward him in his civilian car. (He stopped the car with his family in it in order to assault the joggers.)

This same "well-trained officer" neglected to write up this (you claim "needed") method of crowd control in his report.

This "well-trained officer" has now probably subjected the city who gave him that training and uniform to a major lawsuit.

And if there was a crowd of other drunken retards or friends ready to jump in, then the "well-trained officer" is at fault for turning his back on them before they were subdued, because his partner was standing there over the handcuffed woman, too.

-That charge was 11 years ago.
-The crowd control situation was #1:hypothetical #2: Failed to materialize as a legitimate concern by addressing the possible igniting challenging of authority with a swift and determined response. (Chuck Norris Style)
-Cities have scores of lawyers on retainer for legal challenges. Did she sue? Did you even look it up? Did she win?
- This police officer was eventually fired for his actions, go buy yourself a drink.

J

[jimboston]

My thoughts... if anyone cares...

-> It was definitely an overreaction on the Officer's part. If it's a first time thing he should get-off with a suspension.

-> If he has a pattern of over-reactions he should be removed from the force.

-> We don't know what lead up to this... it looks like he was writing her a ticket. Is it safe to presume that she was violent and vocal??? I don't think cops typically handcuff people when writing them tickets. What was she arrested for?

-> He over-reacted... but if she kept her mouth shut and didn't assault him first then it wouldn't have happened. Her actions don't justify his reaction... but part of the blame should fall to her.

-> Yes her kicking him was assault even if he wasn't in any real danger.

I will now go back and read what everyone else wrote.

[notyou2]

The problem with law enforcement and any paramilitary organization is that they attract the authority hungry sadomasochists. They need better systems of weeding these people out.

[Symmetry]

My thoughts... if anyone cares...

-> It was definitely an overreaction on the Officer's part. If it's a first time thing he should get-off with a suspension.

-> If he has a pattern of over-reactions he should be removed from the force.

-> We don't know what lead up to this... it looks like he was writing her a ticket. Is it safe to presume that she was violent and vocal??? I don't think cops typically handcuff people when writing them tickets. What was she arrested for?

-> He over-reacted... but if she kept her mouth shut and didn't assault him first then it wouldn't have happened. Her actions don't justify his reaction... but part of the blame should fall to her.

-> Yes her kicking him was assault even if he wasn't in any real danger.

I will now go back and read what everyone else wrote.

I posted the evidence that he's already been charged and convicted of assault in the past. Perhaps the lesson to be learned is that criminals convicted of violent crimes don't make the best policemen.

[BigBallinStalin]

That's just a drunk guy heading home from a fancy dress party who tripped up on the sidewalk

[jimboston]

My thoughts... if anyone cares...

-> It was definitely an overreaction on the Officer's part. If it's a first time thing he should get-off with a suspension.

-> If he has a pattern of over-reactions he should be removed from the force.

-> We don't know what lead up to this... it looks like he was writing her a ticket. Is it safe to presume that she was violent and vocal??? I don't think cops typically handcuff people when writing them tickets. What was she arrested for?

-> He over-reacted... but if she kept her mouth shut and didn't assault him first then it wouldn't have happened. Her actions don't justify his reaction... but part of the blame should fall to her.

-> Yes her kicking him was assault even if he wasn't in any real danger.

I will now go back and read what everyone else wrote.

I posted the evidence that he's already been charged and convicted of assault in the past. Perhaps the lesson to be learned is that criminals convicted of violent crimes don't make the best policemen.

I agree with your statement.

Do you agree the woman was stupid for kicking him and shouldn't have done that?

[Phatscotty]

that woman had a gun and took a shot at that officers partner 15 minutes earlier a few blocks away. She changed her clothes and put on sunglasses to try to hide her identity and flee across the border. She almost made it too.....almost. Now this woman is a convicted felon serving life in prison after being convicted of double homicide.

Also



It's a wash

[Phatscotty]

My thoughts... if anyone cares...

-> It was definitely an overreaction on the Officer's part. If it's a first time thing he should get-off with a suspension.

-> If he has a pattern of over-reactions he should be removed from the force.

-> We don't know what lead up to this... it looks like he was writing her a ticket. Is it safe to presume that she was violent and vocal??? I don't think cops typically handcuff people when writing them tickets. What was she arrested for?

-> He over-reacted... but if she kept her mouth shut and didn't assault him first then it wouldn't have happened. Her actions don't justify his reaction... but part of the blame should fall to her.

-> Yes her kicking him was assault even if he wasn't in any real danger.

I will now go back and read what everyone else wrote.

I posted the evidence that he's already been charged and convicted of assault in the past. Perhaps the lesson to be learned is that criminals convicted of violent crimes don't make the best policemen.

I agree with your statement.

Do you agree the woman was stupid for kicking him and shouldn't have done that?

Not to mention, that still does not justify initiating force against a police officer. It also does not change that an officer is within their right to respond to initiations of force with force, as they are authorized and trained to do so.

[Phatscotty]

I knew this guy, who for whatever reason (the reason is irrelevant and would only serve to distract and engender favour for his actions, when his actions are unimportant) spat on a police officer. For his troubles he had the utter shit kicked out of him and his arm broken, he deserved it though, how dare he even consider challenging authority in any way. He should be thankful too, in some countries he might've been murdered for spitting at a cop.

Hey, can you ask that guy if he still thinks it's cool to be a disrespectful salivating punk? (for whatever irrelevant reason....)

Ya know that saying "If your friend jumped off a bridge, then would you?" I think that guy is the one who jumped first.

[john9blue]

that woman had a gun and took a shot at that officers partner 15 minutes earlier a few blocks away. She changed her clothes and put on sunglasses to try to hide her identity and flee across the border. She almost made it too.....almost. Now this woman is a convicted felon serving life in prison after being convicted of double homicide.

...source?