Imperialistic Argentina once more extends its soiled talons

[saxitoxin]

[Chariot of Fire]

Please, don't anyone answer or even read saxi's links! It's all done for his amusement, when you wrestle with a pig, or an idiot, or whatever... you both come out,... well you know:)

[Frito Bandito]

lol:)

[saxitoxin]

The kelpers are already reporting shortages of eggs, bananas, petrol and other necessities after only a few weeks of the Pan-American trade embargo on the occupied Malvinas, according to British official state media BBC. It's still summer in the south Atlantic ... we'll see if the "no negotiation" nonsense holds up this winter when they're all on starvation rations. The good thing is there's also a shortage of condoms which has made the 3,000 sheep on the island extremely happy.

"Yes," I said. "As a matter of fact, I have been hit by the egg shortage." For at breakfast that morning, I had nonchalantly ordered two poached eggs on toast.

"Two eggs, sir?" the lady said. "I'm afraid that won't be possible. We are down to one egg apiece now."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16980747

the noose tightens ...

[the carpet man]

i do not think this light-hearted approaching of this topic is really very appropriate.

do you think of the last falklands war as comedy?

[saxitoxin]

do you think of the last falklands war as comedy?

I'm not certain what jokes I made about the last Malvinas war, however, if you'd care to point them out I'll happily retract them.

If there's a celebratory tone in my posts, however, deal with it. There's no shame in celebrating victory - real or impending.

See:




The only difference between the above and the victory parade that will soon be rolling through the streets of B.A. will be the uniforms and the music.

[aad0906]

Oh the horror! Only 1 egg a day instead of 2, and no bananas either, that will make them want to become Argentinian. If Argentina closes it's airspace for traffic to the Falklands it would be an inconvenience but the Falklands could still be supplied by air and ship from the UK so no Falklander will starve.

Fortunately the Argentinian government has stated it will not repeat the same mistake that the junta made 30 years ago and they will not invade the Falkland Islands. Argentina will pursue their case through the UN but in line with the existing resolution the UN will of course never make the Falklanders join Argentina against their will (even if such a resolution were to be proposed I can name a few permanent members of the security council that would veto it).

[saxitoxin]

the Falklands could still be supplied by air and ship from the UK so no Falklander will starve.

They're currently supplied by neither air nor ship from the UK.

It's not economically viable for a company to export from UK, that's why Malvinas does her trade with South America. That means you're talking about a prolonged UK military airlift/sealift spanning 12,000 kms R/T. The RAF and RN don't have the ships or aircraft to mount such an operation. You're talking about a gigantic operation - permanently supplying a 2,000 person stable civilian population with every necessity of life - that even the USA would be hard-pressed to engineer.

Fortunately the Argentinian government has stated it will not repeat the same mistake that the junta made 30 years ago and they will not invade the Falkland Islands. Argentina will pursue their case through the UN but in line with the existing resolution the UN will of course never

I'm not sure if you're reading a newspaper in your head composed of your hopes and dreams or a newspaper that's actually printed in real life. CW is that the Decolonization Committee will vote overwhelmingly in support of Argentina. We're looking at probably a 20-4 vote. And I have no clue what "existing resolution" to which you're referring.

The UN has repeatedly clarified that "self-determination" doesn't apply in the instance of Malvinas as it exists in tandem with decolonization. "Self-determination" would only apply if the Malvinas were making a move for independence. I already outlined this elsewhere. You should pay attention.

even if such a resolution were to be proposed I can name a few permanent members of the security council that would veto it

First, this isn't (probably) going to be a Security Council questions. The SC can't just veto whatever they like willy-nilly. The permanent members can only veto Security Council resolutions, not resolutions of the General Assembly or other bodies.

Secondly, I don't know who you're thinking of that would veto a UNSC resolution on Malvinas. Russia and China won't. Britain can't as she's an unresponsive party to the conflict so is prohibited from using her veto (see Article 27 of the charter). Would France after Cameron told the EU to go f*ck themselves? Based on Obama's statements (itemized previously) supporting the Argentine claim I doubt the U.S. would. The U.S. is in a real quandry, in fact, due to the critical nature the current administration views the restart of the FTAA agreement and the fact that Argentina holds the keys to that. I predict the U.S. would vote "no" but not exercise a vetoing "no."

It doesn't matter. Argentina doesn't need to invade or even need UN support (but they'll get it). The economic strangulation strategy will work. The Argentines have brilliantly built a cohesive diplomatic block that will force capitulation without a shot being fired. When the Falklanders enter year 2 of 1000 calorie/day diets, petrol rations, constant shortages of basic commodities ... they'll beg Britain to open dialog. This isn't even debatable. It's a done deal. It'll just be fun to see how long they last. I give them 18 months.

[Chariot of Fire]

It'll just be fun to see how long they last.

Spoken like the nasty piece of work that you evidently are. I suppose the wishes of the indigenous people and a British stake that dates back almost 250 years count for little in your moral code book.

You've obviously done enough research judging by all the (selective) material you've posted, so I'd have thought by now you'd have a clearer picture on who is right and who is wrong.

Don't worry yourself over it though. People have been known to back the wrong horse.

[saxitoxin]

It'll just be fun to see how long they last.

Spoken like the nasty piece of work that you evidently are. I suppose the wishes of the indigenous imported people and a British stake that dates back almost 250 years count for little in your moral code book.

Correct. I think I've been clear about that.

[Chariot of Fire]

haha, you do have a vivid imagination. I think it was this that always made me admire your posts. Regrettably your political bias and deliberate attempts to belittle your nation's greatest ally have made me come to the conclusion you're perhaps not so smart after all. Pity.

[everywhere116]

I like how saxi supports and even cheers the underhanded methods Argentina is using to gain possession of the Falkland Islands, when if it was any other power he'd probably be screaming his head off at them. Imagine if the US or the UK blockaded the Galapagos or some other island chain somewhere and demanded that they wouldn't stop unless the nation that held that island ceded them over to the US/UK. His hypocrisy and blatant anti-Westernism is infuriating. Argentina has no legitimate claim to the Falkland Islands, they are interested in nothing besides the oil, and the Argentine tactics are despicable and should not be tolerated in any instance, lest you invite other powers to attempt to force another to cede land or resources simply by making it uncomfortable for them to hold them, like, for instance, an economic blockade.

[saxitoxin]

I like how saxi supports and even cheers the underhanded methods Argentina is using to gain possession of the Falkland Islands, when if it was any other power he'd probably be screaming his head off at them.

that's true, I would

His hypocrisy and blatant anti-Westernism is infuriating.

But that's why you /heart/ me.

[everywhere116]

I like how saxi supports and even cheers the underhanded methods Argentina is using to gain possession of the Falkland Islands, when if it was any other power he'd probably be screaming his head off at them.

that's true, I would

His hypocrisy and blatant anti-Westernism is infuriating.

But that's why you /heart/ me.

It is at this point that I realize what your signature is.

Please tell me your involvement in this thread is one long joke.

[koontz1973]

It'll just be fun to see how long they last.

Spoken like the nasty piece of work that you evidently are. I suppose the wishes of the indigenous people and a British stake that dates back almost 250 years count for little in your moral code book.

Correct. I think I've been clear about that.

Corrected it back. For families that have lived on the islands for 9 generations, this is not an imported population. If we take saxis argument, then should not America go back to the native American people?. Argentina itself has an imported population so maybe they should let the indigenous people rule them for a change. Or do they not want to live in jungle clearings eating monkey brains?

[saxitoxin]

I like how saxi supports and even cheers the underhanded methods Argentina is using to gain possession of the Falkland Islands, when if it was any other power he'd probably be screaming his head off at them.

that's true, I would

His hypocrisy and blatant anti-Westernism is infuriating.

But that's why you /heart/ me.

It is at this point that I realize what your signature is.

Please tell me your involvement in this thread is one long joke.

nope

[the carpet man]

well as i said, i fail to see what there is to rejoice about in a situation such as this. clearly, you have never had experience of any such bullying or intimidation of populations from anything other than an outsider's perspective

[comic boy]

Wow , so many people feeding the troll , watch that diabetes Saxi

[saxitoxin]

well as i said, i fail to see what there is to rejoice about in a situation such as this. clearly, you have never had experience of any such bullying or intimidation of populations from anything other than an outsider's perspective

The west has not. Never. Throughout history they've been the bullies. And now the tables have turned and the hand of justice is on the guillotine lever to even the score. Forgive me if I'm happily relishing this moment.

Anyway, a good point from the Anti-Occupation Twitter account @FreetheFalkland:

Remember if the English could they would still be ruling the people in India, Belize, Jamaica, Zimbabwe. They used same argument then.

[the carpet man]

you object to western bullying yet relish the bullying of the west? that is remarkable hypocrisy.

[saxitoxin]

you object to western bullying yet relish the bullying of the west? that is remarkable hypocrisy.

[everywhere116]

And with that, we have sufficient grounds to dismiss his entire involvement in this thread.

Good day.

[BigBallinStalin]

So the only legitimate, or reasonable, stance is the pro-Western one?

[Symmetry]

So the only legitimate, or reasonable, stance is the pro-Western one?

I kind of thought America was Western.

[saxitoxin]

And with that, we have sufficient grounds to dismiss his entire involvement in this thread.

Good day.

LOL-k

Now you, cb, chariot and the rest can get back to pounding out more Tom Clancy fan fiction!