saxitoxin wrote: I'm just listening to Dr. Drew right now and he's more or less saying that, at this point, he thinks it would be prudent for everyone to immediately stop boostering if you don't have a serious comorbidity.
I think this is reasonable. I think it's kinda sick this whole thing became a political football (no pun intended) and that people lost sight of the fact that initially we were trying to stop the virus from spreading, and there was a good faith effort to vaccinate+mask people who were healthy in an effort to prevent Covid from becoming a recurring widespread disease (exactly like the flu). We (as humans across many borders) failed at this effort (thanks Trump) and the last year has been a time to re-examine the roll of the vaccine in society. If we can't keep it from spreading, then it should only be given to those with serious comorbidities, or are nursing home age. I guess I'm on the same page as Saxi.
tl/dr - it's China's fault.
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Anti-vaccine activists have collected a number of anecdotal reports of athlete deaths in order to bolster their claims.
However, according to a 2016 study, there are approximately 100 to 150 sudden cardiac deaths each year during competitive sports in the United States alone.
Hamlin's vaccination status is unknown. In March 2022, the NFL said that around 95% of NFL players were vaccinated against Covid.
Anti-vaccine activists have collected a number of anecdotal reports
From the world's leading non-Pfizer scientists ...
A team of 3 MIT scientists writing in the journal Nature wrote:While not establishing causal relationships, the findings raise concerns regarding vaccine-induced undetected severe cardiovascular side-effects and underscore the already established causal relationship between vaccines and myocarditis, a frequent cause of unexpected cardiac arrest in young individuals.
A team of 6 scientists from Oxford and Johns Hopkins in the British Medical Journal wrote:Using CDC and sponsor-reported adverse event data, we find that booster mandates may cause a net expected harm: per COVID-19 hospitalisation prevented in previously uninfected young adults, we anticipate 18 to 98 serious adverse events, including 1.7 to 3.0 booster-associated myocarditis cases in males, and 1,373 to 3,234 cases of grade ≥3 reactogenicity which interferes with daily activities.
A team of 3 scientists from the French College of Cardiologists, reporting to the European Congress of Cardiology wrote:The incidence of myocardial lesions was 800 times above the usual incidence of myocarditis in 18-24 year olds who had completed their vaccination series.
You now say that a year-old study is obsolete after your post was as old and says to wait for the peer-review as serious objections have been made.
Here is an article that looks at both sides and says, yes, mRNA vaccines increase incidents of myocarditis among young people but COVID increases it almost as much and is more likely to be fatal, plus there are more adverse COVID effects.
Here's a new one showing that athletes are suffering diminished oxygen uptake after boostering
A team of 12 Belgian researchers wrote:Overall, the study findings showed a significant reduction in VO2max levels a week post- BNT162b2 vaccination among recreational endurance athletes.
GaryDenton wrote:You now say that a year-old study is obsolete after your post was as old and says to wait for the peer-review as serious objections have been made.
Here is an article that looks at both sides and says, yes, mRNA vaccines increase incidents of myocarditis among young people but COVID increases it almost as much and is more likely to be fatal, plus there are more adverse COVID effects.
Gary is getting his scientific information from a grad student at something called "Sunway University," a diploma mill in Malaysia, writing on his free medium.com blog.
My information, which is from a team of 10 people with MDs who practice at the Tel Aviv University School of Medicine and write in the Q1 peer-reviewed journal Journal of Clinical Medicine, says something different:
Post COVID-19 infection was not associated with either myocarditis (aHR 1.08; 95% CI 0.45 to 2.56) or pericarditis (aHR 0.53; 95% CI 0.25 to 1.13). We did not observe an increased incidence of neither pericarditis nor myocarditis in adult patients recovering from COVID-19 infection.
The medium.com blog written by a Malaysian grad student Gary is reading cites old and debunked theory. The world leading medical journal I'm reading cites the evolved and current science.
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At this time we do not know the CAUSE of his cardiac arrest, but doctors say it may have been due the hit he took in his chest on the tackle on that play.
saxi wants you to believe that the cardiac arrest suffered, unfortunately by Hamlin, is due to the COVID vaccine. He ignores how prevalent this situation is and even BEFORE the COVID vaccines were made available. Again, the Sky is NOT Falling. Again, saxi is misleading the ill-informed. I AM SHOCKED...!! actually we are NOT
Cardiac arrest is when the heart stops beating unexpectedly. A heart attack can trigger cardiac arrest, but so can other heart and non-heart issues. Higher bystander CPR rates and improved cardiovascular care have saved lives, but cardiac arrest was still a factor in more than 370,000 deaths in the United States in 2019.
Some conditions that can lead to sudden cardiac death in young people are: Thickened heart muscle (hypertrophic cardiomyopathy). ... Heart rhythm disorders. ... Blunt chest injury. ... Heart structure problem present at birth (congenital heart defect).
Blunt cardiac injury is blunt chest trauma that causes contusion of myocardial muscle, rupture of a cardiac chamber, or disruption of a heart valve. Sometimes a blow to the anterior chest wall causes cardiac arrest without any structural lesion (commotio cordis).
2dimes wrote:Anyone eating Hot Pockets, sandwiches at Subway, etc. probably shouldn't worry about the Donald J. Trump approved/endorsed vaccine.
FACT: I eat half-a-bag of carrots every day. Not all at once. Throughout the day while working I just eat carrots. (And, no, before anyone googles it, I don't suffer from carotenemia.)
Carrots are very high in sugar.
Almost the candy of the vegetable world.
I was unaware of that, however, when I google it some lady name Amy Keating is telling Consumer Reports that cutting back on carrots is unwarranted unless you're dieting, which I'm not. So I'm going to keep eating carrots like I'm Peter Cottontail and going unvaccinated like I'm Novak Djokovic.
About the Peter Cottontail bit....
It's a common myth that rabbits love carrots. In fact, the sugar content is too high and rabbits get dangerous diarrhea when they eat carrots.
The myth began with Bugs Bunny. Bugs' carrot munching and speech mannerisms were a parody of Clark Gable's character in 'It Happened One Night''
It Happened One Night was released in 1934 and Bugs' career was launched it 1940, at which time most audiences would have still gotten the joke. Eighty years later, the movie is unknown except to old movie afficionados and Gable loyalists, and the carrot munching has passed into the popular zeitgeist as an essential component of leporine folklore.
This is for sure the best post, probably in over a year here. I might check out the film. Thanks for that Duke.
Rabbits will definately enjoy a carrot every time I have seen them given one. Horses too.
The better part of the connection of Bugs/Looney Toons to that video clip for me, is their use of the skirt trick. I recall that showing up in several cartoons. It stuck out to the point of me stealing the joke a few times and/or talking about showing some leg to get a ride and then crediting the fictional multi New York borough accented rabbit.
The guys from termite terrace often incorporated popular movie and celeberty references from their time, most often and obvious being Julien "Groucho" Marx.
I think my dietary observation is valid. Even though I often eat better than the average North American I do have too much processed food. I suspect it's worse than two small injections of whatever is in the Trump death jabs.
I'm not in love with the vaccine.. And while I am not getting boosters myself. I don't see it doing those I know that do much harm, including at least two multiple booster fans, with fairly serious known pre-existing heart conditions.
People die all the time. So what? Why should I care about the death of THIS person (Lola Mitchell) as something unique and more TRAGIC than another human? Okay, she is a better human than saxi...??....I suppose...., BUT, so what?
And now we know what saxi does when he is online. hmm......
Dr. Byram Bridle is a Canadian viral immunologist who - a few days after Pfizer's C19 vax launch in 2021 - expressed concerns that the formula being used in it would cause widespread cardiac damage. He was subsequently dragged through the mud and called a crank by media outlets taking their cue from FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb (now on the Pfizer board of directors) and a since-debunked and partially-retracted Reuters hit piece (Reuters' Managing Director sits on the Pfizer board of directors). Some of the most outrageous attacks against him focused on an inherited muscular condition from which Bridle suffers which causes occasional muscle spasms in his face; critics seized on this to lampoon him, saying he "looked crazy."
Bridle specifically claimed:
- "...the spike protein produced by the mRNA vaccines does not remain in the shoulder muscle upon injection, but rather gets into the blood — and can, in some cases, lead to clotting, bleeding, heart problems, neurological damage...” - "They made a mistake – they thought the spike protein was a great target antigen, only to discover it is a toxin, can travel to many organs of the body, causing severe damage.”
He is a guest on today's episode of DR DREW where he announced he's filed a $3 million lawsuit against his employer, the University of Guelph, for defamation. Dr. Drew said he would like to read more of Dr. Bridle's research before making a conclusion, however, based on the consensus of research that has come out in the last three months, Bridle's case against the vaccines now seems "cogent and compelling."
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Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
saxitoxin wrote:Dr. Byram Bridle is a Canadian viral immunologist who - a few days after Pfizer's C19 vax launch in 2021 - expressed concerns that the formula being used in it would cause widespread cardiac and neurological damage. He was subsequently dragged through the mud and called a crank by media outlets taking their cue from FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb (now on the Pfizer board of directors) and a since-debunked and partially-retracted Reuters hit piece (Reuters' Managing Director sits on the Pfizer board of directors).
Bridle specifically claimed:
- "...the spike protein produced by the mRNA vaccines does not remain in the shoulder muscle upon injection, but rather gets into the blood — and can, in some cases, lead to clotting, bleeding, heart problems, neurological damage...” - "They made a mistake – they thought the spike protein was a great target antigen, only to discover it is a toxin, can travel to many organs of the body, causing severe damage.”
He is a guest on today's episode of DR DREW where he announced he's filed a $3 million lawsuit against his employer, the University of Guelph, for defamation. Dr. Drew said he would like to read more of Dr. Bridle's research before making a conclusion, however, based on the consensus of research that has come out in the last three months, Bridle's case against the vaccines now seems "cogent and compelling."
Glad we’ve determined the former co-host of LoveLine is now the resident Covid expert.
saxitoxin wrote:Dr. Byram Bridle is a Canadian viral immunologist who - a few days after Pfizer's C19 vax launch in 2021 - expressed concerns that the formula being used in it would cause widespread cardiac and neurological damage. He was subsequently dragged through the mud and called a crank by media outlets taking their cue from FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb (now on the Pfizer board of directors) and a since-debunked and partially-retracted Reuters hit piece (Reuters' Managing Director sits on the Pfizer board of directors).
Bridle specifically claimed:
- "...the spike protein produced by the mRNA vaccines does not remain in the shoulder muscle upon injection, but rather gets into the blood — and can, in some cases, lead to clotting, bleeding, heart problems, neurological damage...” - "They made a mistake – they thought the spike protein was a great target antigen, only to discover it is a toxin, can travel to many organs of the body, causing severe damage.”
He is a guest on today's episode of DR DREW where he announced he's filed a $3 million lawsuit against his employer, the University of Guelph, for defamation. Dr. Drew said he would like to read more of Dr. Bridle's research before making a conclusion, however, based on the consensus of research that has come out in the last three months, Bridle's case against the vaccines now seems "cogent and compelling."
Glad we’ve determined the former co-host of LoveLine is now the resident Covid expert.
Drew Pinsky was one of the nation's foremost medical toxicologists and chief resident at Huntington Memorial before he got his TV show; he has an MD from USC, one of the country's top medical schools.
Is Dr. Drew a COVID expert? Definitely not. Is Dr. Drew more qualified to evaluate medical evidence than Malaysian diploma mill student Shin Jie Yong? Yes.
Why did Jim do that? It's called Selective Response and is a common method of psychological coping when faced with existential stress (i.e. when you have a time bomb inside you that can't be turned off).
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The House last struggled to elect a speaker 100 years ago. Here's what happened
If you heard it once this week you probably heard it a hundred times: The House has not failed to elect a speaker on the first ballot in 100 years.
For generations it was the definition of party loyalty for every member of each party to vote for its nominee for speaker. In fact for 50 years after World War II, not a single stray vote was cast for anyone other than the two major party nominees.
On several occasions since 1997, we have seen a few members of the majority party voting "present" or voting for someone other than their party nominee. But it has not prevented that nominee's election as speaker.
actually we are 
