ACLU Has Priorities Straight?

[jimboston]

Jim, do you boycott Ford… etc, blah, blah, blah?

You have to pick your battles.

[Dukasaur]

Jim, do you boycott Ford and other american car companies? They market their cars in communist china, and you've previously explained your distain for the CCP.

Ford is 'normalizing' communism through it's advertising and sales in China, so you must be up in arms about that right?

I boycott Ford and other American car companies, but not for political reasons. American cars are garbage. If I want to buy a car I'll go for German. Or Japanese.

[KoolBak]

Just love sweeping generalizations.

That epically uneducated statement could be hashed out ad nauseam like most of the other ridiculous threads here.

That's IF Maxi's opinion mattered

And on we go.

[mookiemcgee]

This just in, Bass pro shop is next. Get em' boys

[Dukasaur]

Tim Allen is going to be heartbroken.

[Doc_Brown]

Say what you will about how much sense the Bud Light boycott actually makes. At least it has not reached the insane level of a mob getting a person fired for writing positive comments about Bud Light merchandise.

[mookiemcgee]

Well, Jim. You guys really did it! You took on Bud light and brought them to their knees. You chopped off their heads and took them down from being #1 beer, to #2 beer in the USA.

Now Modelo has the #1 spot... Now modelo is owned by InBev in most countries, but due to an antitrust ruling a decade ago modelo the brand in the USA is actually owned by Constellation Brands.

Is that the same Constelation brands that was named 'Best Place to Work for LGBTQ Equality' twice in the last 5 years?
Is it the same company the very outwardly supports trans people/rights to an extent that InBev wouldn't ever do?
Do you still think you really thought through this regarded attempt at boycotting?

https://img.ifunny.co/images/3b3faf4c919ca7a73b88679f4b954d712268d10ceeceaad94fa4a7f135f5b9bc_1.webp

Let's sample a bit from a recent Q&A with 'Stellar Pride' (Constellations entire division dedicated to LBGTQ+ equality) two leaders CHRISTOPHER DECOSMO AND MARAH CALVO

Q - What DE&I project are you most proud of implementing or working on?

Christopher: My dream project is Stellar Pride championing employees who feel comfortable to self-identify their sexual orientation and gender identity, as part of our Self Identification program. As our workforce provides these details and the project continues, it’s important to ensure we’re meeting the needs of our colleagues and to better impact our DE&I objectives. This project is helping to improve equity and programming across Constellation Brands.


Marah: I’m proud of our work to encourage all my colleagues to add their preferred pronouns in their email signature. Although it may seem like something small, it does help create awareness and a more welcoming environment, especially in the workplace. Personally, I am working on saying “them” when I introduce myself to people for the first time. Changes like this add up!


Congrats on slaying the dragon that was Bud light boys (and when I say boys, I only mean the ones with a penis)!
You really showed inBev who's boss by anointing Constellation brands imported product as top beer in USA.

[jimboston]

Well, Jim. You guys really did it! You took on Bud light and brought them to their knees. You chopped off their heads and took them down from being #1 beer, to #2 beer in the USA.

Now Modelo has the #1 spot... Now modelo is owned by InBev in most countries, but due to an antitrust ruling a decade ago modelo the brand in the USA is actually owned by Constellation Brands.

Is that the same Constelation brands that was named 'Best Place to Work for LGBTQ Equality' twice in the last 5 years?
Is it the same company the very outwardly supports trans people/rights to an extent that InBev wouldn't ever do?
Do you still think you really thought through this regarded attempt at boycotting?

https://img.ifunny.co/images/3b3faf4c919ca7a73b88679f4b954d712268d10ceeceaad94fa4a7f135f5b9bc_1.webp

Let's sample a bit from a recent Q&A with 'Stellar Pride' (Constellations entire division dedicated to LBGTQ+ equality) two leaders CHRISTOPHER DECOSMO AND MARAH CALVO

Q - What DE&I project are you most proud of implementing or working on?

Christopher: My dream project is Stellar Pride championing employees who feel comfortable to self-identify their sexual orientation and gender identity, as part of our Self Identification program. As our workforce provides these details and the project continues, it’s important to ensure we’re meeting the needs of our colleagues and to better impact our DE&I objectives. This project is helping to improve equity and programming across Constellation Brands.


Marah: I’m proud of our work to encourage all my colleagues to add their preferred pronouns in their email signature. Although it may seem like something small, it does help create awareness and a more welcoming environment, especially in the workplace. Personally, I am working on saying “them” when I introduce myself to people for the first time. Changes like this add up!


Congrats on slaying the dragon that was Bud light boys (and when I say boys, I only mean the ones with a penis)!
You really showed inBev who's boss by anointing Constellation brands imported product as top beer in USA.

This.

[jimboston]

Your post is funny. You make it seem like I started the whole boycott thing and was investing serious effort to pushing it.

1) I didn’t start it.

2) I support in in a generic sense… in that I’ll verbally agree with the premise, and maybe post about it here, but that’s as far as it goes.
I don’t drink Bud Light typically so I really wasn’t actually boycotting a product I previously purchased. I drank Corona one weekend instead of Budweiser when I was out with my nephews… but I think that’s InBev too. I’m aware there are bigger behind the picture issues.

That said, I do think the boycott sends a message to Corporate America. You can disagree, but I feel it communicates underlying disagreement (within large segments of the American population) with the Whole TransPride bullshit, and I think Corporate America will now need to take these concerns more seriously.

3) All big corporations have been infected with DEI mentality… even Fox Corp. and Fox News do all this stuff that they supposedly disagree with in their news programs. It’s a pretty big movement and it’s not going to be stopped on a dime.

[saxitoxin]

Well, Jim. You guys really did it! You took on Bud light and brought them to their knees. You chopped off their heads and took them down from being #1 beer, to #2 beer in the USA.

Now Modelo has the #1 spot... Now modelo is owned by InBev in most countries, but due to an antitrust ruling a decade ago modelo the brand in the USA is actually owned by Constellation Brands.

Is that the same Constelation brands that was named 'Best Place to Work for LGBTQ Equality' twice in the last 5 years?
Is it the same company the very outwardly supports trans people/rights to an extent that InBev wouldn't ever do?
Do you still think you really thought through this regarded attempt at boycotting?

https://img.ifunny.co/images/3b3faf4c919ca7a73b88679f4b954d712268d10ceeceaad94fa4a7f135f5b9bc_1.webp

Let's sample a bit from a recent Q&A with 'Stellar Pride' (Constellations entire division dedicated to LBGTQ+ equality) two leaders CHRISTOPHER DECOSMO AND MARAH CALVO

Q - What DE&I project are you most proud of implementing or working on?

Christopher: My dream project is Stellar Pride championing employees who feel comfortable to self-identify their sexual orientation and gender identity, as part of our Self Identification program. As our workforce provides these details and the project continues, it’s important to ensure we’re meeting the needs of our colleagues and to better impact our DE&I objectives. This project is helping to improve equity and programming across Constellation Brands.


Marah: I’m proud of our work to encourage all my colleagues to add their preferred pronouns in their email signature. Although it may seem like something small, it does help create awareness and a more welcoming environment, especially in the workplace. Personally, I am working on saying “them” when I introduce myself to people for the first time. Changes like this add up!


Congrats on slaying the dragon that was Bud light boys (and when I say boys, I only mean the ones with a penis)!
You really showed inBev who's boss by anointing Constellation brands imported product as top beer in USA.

Um, yeah, you missed the point.

The issue with Bud Light is they engaged in a program of marketing transinsanity to U18s. Dylan's primary audience are people who aren't of drinking age and he operates on a platform predominantly populated by U18s.

No one cares if an adult wants to amputate their penis or have a double mastectomy. Promote that all you want.

It's the reason Target was boycotted, but not Walmart.

It's the reason AB InBev was boycotted, but not Constellation.

It's the reason people vote against Biden, but not Trump.*

* Trump supported inclusion of trannies in the Miss Universe Pageant but, unlike Biden, did not call for normalization of penile amputation of 12 year olds.

[saxitoxin]

Britain's Left-loved NHS just banned puberty blockers by U18s in the UK.

https://apnews.com/article/uk-transgend ... 4656c937da

This happens the same month Biden called - on the White House lawn - for more "gender affirming care" (puberty blockers and genital amputation) for 11 and 12 year olds. The same month Biden supporters in California enacted a new law that permits children to be seized and have their organs amputated if their parents refuse to authorize the surgery themselves.

After years of extolling the NHS, the Rats are now gonna hafta get their base ginned-up to be anti-single payer health insurance. Just add it to the list ...

- Democrats were against government surveillance, now they're for it.
- Democrats were against war, now they're for it.
- Democrats were against mega-corporations, now they're for them.
- Democrats were against the CIA, now they're for it.

[mookiemcgee]

You make it seem like I was investing serious effort to pushing it.

You defended it, ad nauseam, in this thread... suggesting a budlight beer ad leads to a slippery slope of cutting off kids penis.

I mean if you people don’t want to acknowledge the Trans Agenda has gone too far… that’s fine.

They started out just wanting to use bathrooms. Now…
*They demand you use their “proper” pronouns or you are evil.
*They demand you don’t use their “dead names” or you are evil.
*They demand Hollywood only cast trans-actors in trans-roles.
(Yet they also believe transpeople can play non-trans-roles?)
*They want to be housed in women’s prisons… even if they are not fully transitioned and even if they are convicted of violent sexual crimes.
*They want to use women’s locker rooms and women’s only gyms… even if they are not fully transitioned. So yeah.. your high school daughter may have to watch some dude walk out of the shower naked with his dick swinging around… but you can’t “he has a dick” you have to say “she has a dick”.
*They demand you acknowledge the statement “A transwoman IS a woman.”
*They demand you acknowledge “facts” like… “yes a man can get pregnant”.
(i.e. a biological woman who identifies as a man… )
*They demand inclusion in female athletic competitions.
*They demand “gender affirming care” for minor children.
(i.e.they want your 16yo kid to be allowed to get his dick cut off without parental consent…. but that same 16yo can;t get a tattoo?)

What will they demand next?

I am trying to be nuanced and say… I accept trans people as humans who have every right to do what they want to their own bodies and live their own lives and be happy. Yet I believe there “rights” end when they interfere with the rights of other people.

I mean if you people don’t want to acknowledge the Trans Agenda has gone too far… that’s fine.


What will they demand next?

God forbid they are chosen by a beer company to promote the beer to other trans people. Some demands just go to far and I respect you Jim for choosing this particular hill to die on. Totally worth it so we don't end up drinking the same beer as 'THEM'!!!

If you want to pretend you don’t see how this snowballs that’s fine…

You can pretend.

It’s NOT about the beer.

The beer is a symptom… a symptom that is easy to point out and easy to protest.

What will they do next? IDK… start giving puberty blockers to 10year olds without their parent’s knowledge?
They are already doing this for older kids. They already give ADHD type medications to kids without parent knowledge/consent.

They are already performing permanent body mutilation surgery on 16year olds. They won’t allow a 16yo to get a tattoo in some places with parental consent… but they will provide “gender affirming care” (i.e. permanent mutilation of sexual organs) on 16yo’ s in some places against parental wishes.

I guess you don’t see Bud Light’s marketing move as am embracing of Woke Trans Culture and an attack on Traditional Family; and you furthermore don’t see this as an example of a larger social problem.

I hope they keep getting punished for pushing this agenda.

Bud Light decided to step into this cultural minefield and decided to promote “Transness” as a positive thing. As I stated I don’t believe Gender Dysphoria is “normal”. It is a serious mental condition… like depression or bulimia. We don’t tell young kids who are depressed and who are cutting themselves that this is “normal”. We don’t promote this as a “good thing”. We bring these kids to psychologists and hope that they can work through their issues. Often they are given drugs… probably too often IMHO… but the drugs are not given to normalize or support their negative views, the drugs are given to make them feel better. Whereas with Trans the current standard is to give drugs that support a biological fallacy.

I have every right as a consumer to choose which companies I support and which I don’t. I have every right as an American to voice my opinions about why I feel we should or should not support a particular company. I don’t think we should support companies that promote this agenda which (IMHO) is fucking up a generation of kids who are already dealing with stuff we’venever had to deal with.

[mookiemcgee]

I understand Saxi and others have REALLY STRONG opposition to body mutilation on underage persons (even if the kid wants it) before they turn 18.

Well in 2021 there were 282 'top' surgeries among minors across the whole country. Of a rough number of 27million minors between 12-17 that is .001%

Meanwhile, 4,830 minors got fake tits in the same year. Where is the outrage? Clearly these kids are destroying their bodies, mutilating themselves right? These doctors belong in jail? It's a slippery slope before infants start getting fake tits so they have an early advantage in finding a wealthy todlers boyfriend? Why arent bill moving through congress now to prevent this from happening???

Who do we boycott for this travesty? Victoria Secrets maybe???

[saxitoxin]

I understand Saxi and others have REALLY STRONG opposition to body mutilation on underage persons (even if the kid wants it) before they turn 18.

Well in 2021 there were 282 'top' surgeries among minors across the whole country. Of a rough number of 27million minors between 12-17 that is .001%

Meanwhile, 4,830 minors got fake tits in the same year. Where is the outrage? Clearly these kids are destroying their bodies, mutilating themselves right? These doctors belong in jail? It's a slippery slope before infants start getting fake tits so they have an early advantage in finding a wealthy todlers boyfriend? Why arent bill moving through congress now to prevent this from happening???

Who do we boycott for this travesty? Victoria Secrets maybe???

a. Breast augmentation in U18s is not FDA approved and is only considered off-label for medical issues. Transgenderism is not a medical issue, it is a mental health issue. Women are not born with "souls of men living inside of them."

b. Breast augmentation is reversible. Breast removal is irreversible.

c. Breast augmentation can only be performed two years after the conclusion of natural development. Puberty blockers and genital surgery are specifically designed to occur prior to - or during - natural development.

[saxitoxin]

An 18 year-old filed suit this week against Kaiser Permanente for carving her breasts off when she was 13 years old after a one-hour consultation in a Biden Gender Affirming Care Clinic.

In the suit she says she was going through normal teenage confusion and angst, she didn't have the magical soul of a male who had mystically taken over her body and was living inside her.

[Dukasaur]

I understand Saxi and others have REALLY STRONG opposition to body mutilation on underage persons (even if the kid wants it) before they turn 18.

Well in 2021 there were 282 'top' surgeries among minors across the whole country. Of a rough number of 27million minors between 12-17 that is .001%

Meanwhile, 4,830 minors got fake tits in the same year. Where is the outrage? Clearly these kids are destroying their bodies, mutilating themselves right? These doctors belong in jail? It's a slippery slope before infants start getting fake tits so they have an early advantage in finding a wealthy todlers boyfriend? Why arent bill moving through congress now to prevent this from happening???

Who do we boycott for this travesty? Victoria Secrets maybe???

I have to disagree. Fake tits are a cosmetic feature. They don't prevent the mammary glands from functioning normally.

Sex changes result in permanents sterility. It's an irrevocable decision that a person could very much regret in their later years.

Even 18 is too weak a standard. I'd make 25 the age of consent for that. Everyone I knew in high school (except for a few of the really girly girls) swore they'd never have kids, and almost every one of those people had changed their minds by 25. Can you imagine if they reached the point where they were ready for that, but suddenly realized that due to a stupid decision they made when they were 14, it's just not an option?

Don't get me wrong. I'm against population growth and if those people really don't want to have kids, more power to them. But for most people it's a temporary impulse that goes away.

[Dukasaur]

f*ck off saxi. You're not supposed to fast-post me.

[saxitoxin]

f*ck off saxi. You're not supposed to fast-post me.

f*ck you, you're not supposed to agree with me

2dimes pays $25/year for our tête-à-têtes and we promised him we would put on a quality show

[jimboston]

You make it seem like I was investing serious effort to pushing it.

You defended it, ad nauseam, in this thread... suggesting a budlight beer ad leads to a slippery slope of cutting off kids penis.

A few posts in an online forum (not even a political website) now count as “serious effort”?

If that’s what you GenZ and Millennials consider “serious effort” it explains a lot.

[Dukasaur]

You make it seem like I was investing serious effort to pushing it.

You defended it, ad nauseam, in this thread... suggesting a budlight beer ad leads to a slippery slope of cutting off kids penis.

A few posts in an online forum (not even a political website) now count as “serious effort”?

If that’s what you GenZ and Millennials consider “serious effort” it explains a lot.

Considering you spelled all the words correctly, it definitely does cound as a "serious effort" on your part.

[jimboston]

I understand Saxi and others have REALLY STRONG opposition to body mutilation on underage persons (even if the kid wants it) before they turn 18.

Well in 2021 there were 282 'top' surgeries among minors across the whole country. Of a rough number of 27million minors between 12-17 that is .001%

Meanwhile, 4,830 minors got fake tits in the same year. Where is the outrage? Clearly these kids are destroying their bodies, mutilating themselves right? These doctors belong in jail? It's a slippery slope before infants start getting fake tits so they have an early advantage in finding a wealthy todlers boyfriend? Why arent bill moving through congress now to prevent this from happening???

Who do we boycott for this travesty? Victoria Secrets maybe???

I don’t think girls under the age of 18 should get fake tits.

That said, a pair of fake tits is NOT the same as “gender affirming” drugs or bottom surgery.

Gender affirming drugs will impact your ability to have kids later in life and bottom surgery is irreversible.
Fake tits can be removed or modified and though they will leave a scar they will not impact your ability to have orgasm negatively.

[jimboston]

You make it seem like I was investing serious effort to pushing it.

You defended it, ad nauseam, in this thread... suggesting a budlight beer ad leads to a slippery slope of cutting off kids penis.

A few posts in an online forum (not even a political website) now count as “serious effort”?

If that’s what you GenZ and Millennials consider “serious effort” it explains a lot.

Considering you spelled all the words correctly, it definitely does cound as a "serious effort" on your part.

Fresh!

[mookiemcgee]

ITT we learn Duku and Saxi are pedo perverts who support all 12-17 yo females to be able to get fake tits.

GROOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMEEEEEERRRRRSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mookiemcgee]

Gender affirming drugs will impact your ability to have kids later in life and bottom surgery is irreversible.
Fake tits can be removed or modified and though they will leave a scar they will not impact your ability to have orgasm negatively.

I guess most in this thread supports minors mutilating their bodies in certain cases...personally I'm opposed to it regardless of it it's wangs getting cutoff or if it's 12 year olds getting breast implants (even if they are 'reversible') because 12 year olds don't need to be sexualized with large unnatural breasts. Now, while i disagree with it... I still take the position that it should be their decision and not my decision or the states decision... but i think reasonable people can disagree on this.

regardless, I will be drinking a modelo with my undocumented mexican friends in protest of state overreach and in favor of body autonomy even if it leads to groomer pedos encouraging 12 year olds to get breast implants.

[jimboston]

Yet in the case of “gender affirming care” some states are now putting rules in place that will lead to minors being taken away from their parents and put in Foster care if the parents don’t agree that the kids should get gender neutralizing drugs and/or surgery!

So much for freedom when the State comes in and forces it’s new religion on us!

As stated before I also don’t think minors should get breast augmentation either… but the point you ignore is that one is clearly worse.