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Re: Congrats to US and China on Climate Change

Postby shickingbrits on Mon Dec 01, 2014 2:56 pm

I cheat at an online game?

I have never cheated in this game.

Basically, yes. We go into companies that we expect can see a decent savings with a bit of monitoring and change in use, put the controls in, and get earn their savings for a preset period of time, depending on how much we save them and then the savings are realized by them.
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Re: Congrats to US and China on Climate Change

Postby DoomYoshi on Mon Dec 01, 2014 2:59 pm

shickingbrits wrote:I have never cheated in this game.


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Re: Congrats to US and China on Climate Change

Postby shickingbrits on Mon Dec 01, 2014 3:09 pm

I've only ever had one account.

From what I can tell, the person I'm being accused of being hasn't been online since January. While people claim it is my multi, how can it be a multi if the player hasn't been online the entire time I have had an account?

So the accusation isn't one of cheating: act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination. The accusation is that I stopped using one account and started using another. There is a place for accusations, make them or shut up.
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Re: Congrats to US and China on Climate Change

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Dec 01, 2014 3:32 pm

shickingbrits wrote:From what I can tell, the person I'm being accused of being hasn't been online since January. While people claim it is my multi, how can it be a multi if the player hasn't been online the entire time I have had an account?


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Re: Congrats to US and China on Climate Change

Postby BigBallinStalin on Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:32 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:
shickingbrits wrote:From what I can tell, the person I'm being accused of being hasn't been online since January. While people claim it is my multi, how can it be a multi if the player hasn't been online the entire time I have had an account?


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Re: Congrats to US and China on Climate Change

Postby BigBallinStalin on Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:38 pm

notyou2 wrote:
shickingbrits wrote:Sorry if you were going to reply Mets.


All in favor, say Aye.


So where did your sheep avatar go? Why did you make a new account?


shickingbrits wrote:Making a new account is against the rules.

I quite clearly am a rule follower. I was acquitted of being a multi.

Why some people may make a new account, pure speculation...

Perhaps their wife was annoyed with the amount of time they spent on CC and deliberately got them banned. The wife then changed the account password. If it were a long ban, let's say 6 months, then the person couldn't rejoin for that period of time anyways. After that period of time, the person would have to somehow bother getting a new password, and being a spontaneous decision, might not bother with the formalities when their old account had been reduced to a rookies points anyways and the username had been denied changing by admin prior to the ban.

But who knows the devious minds of rule breakers? Probably not even worth speculating.


shickingbrits wrote:It's hard to say in these hypothetical situations...

Who knows, the guy's kid may only have Chinese citizenship and the wife may threaten to send the kid back to China whenever she doesn't get her way, and have it raised by a hateful grandmother in a backwater village being taught to hate the father as it grows up.

Or something.


shickingbrits wrote:I'm sure this guy was smart enough to liquidate their assets in China, which were in her name, buy fixed assets in Canada, get a immigration lawyer to deal speed along the citizenship of his child, and seek marriage counseling that became one-on-one for his sweet wife.

Making a change to Canada is rather drastic. The important thing is to protect your kids from any hardship that might entail.



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Re: Congrats to US and China on Climate Change

Postby DoomYoshi on Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:04 pm

Yea, after reading the reports from the last Climate Change discussion, nothing else is a possible explanation.

All those in favor of a Napoleonic justice system, say aye. (guilty until proven innocent, which will never happen)
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Re: Congrats to US and China on Climate Change

Postby Metsfanmax on Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:16 pm

shickingbrits wrote:So the accusation isn't one of cheating: act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination. The accusation is that I stopped using one account and started using another. There is a place for accusations, make them or shut up.


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Re: Congrats to US and China on Climate Change

Postby DoomYoshi on Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:20 pm

Well, that escalated quickly.
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Re: Congrats to US and China on Climate Change

Postby shickingbrits on Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:15 am

Sad how some people just want to cost another guy a few dollars.
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Re: Congrats to US and China on Climate Change

Postby mrswdk on Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:32 am

I don't understand what the point of reporting him was.
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Re: Congrats to US and China on Climate Change

Postby shickingbrits on Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:50 am

I pray that brother Mets may find peace and return to harmony. Perhaps ayahuasca? Or maybe a Navajo ceremony?
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Re: Congrats to US and China on Climate Change

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:53 am

mrswdk wrote:I don't understand what the point of reporting him was. Well I mean, I do, but spite and vindictiveness seem like pretty lame reasons to me.


shickingbrits wrote:I cheat at an online game?

I have never cheated in this game.


It answers the question. He basically called everyone out.
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Re: Congrats to US and China on Climate Change

Postby shickingbrits on Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:05 am

shickingbrits wrote: There is a place for accusations, make them or shut up.


That was calling them out.

A tiger will show their stripes, better get it over with than be henpecked.
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Re: Congrats to US and China on Climate Change

Postby Metsfanmax on Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:58 am

mrswdk wrote:I don't understand what the point of reporting him was.


Besides the fact that he basically asked for it, I didn't care when he was admitting it. It was when he decided to say that he didn't cheat, and that he was cleared of being multis, that I got annoyed. I really hate dishonesty.

Though I'm not sure how he figured out it was me, doesn't he have me foed?
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Re: Congrats to US and China on Climate Change

Postby Metsfanmax on Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:17 am

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mrswdk wrote:I don't understand what the point of reporting him was.


Besides the fact that he basically asked for it, I didn't care when he was admitting it. It was when he decided to say that he didn't cheat, and that he was cleared of being multis, that I got annoyed. I really hate dishonesty.

Though I'm not sure how he figured out it was me, doesn't he have me foed?


After some consideration, I apologize for what I did. Though I still think sabotage deserved punishment for violating CC rules, my retribution was petty.
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Re: Congrats to US and China on Climate Change

Postby _sabotage_ on Wed Dec 10, 2014 4:55 am

Oh I'm so punished. I have to smoke one less cigarette a month to cover the cost. My wife tells me I'm quitting over the holidays, or something.

I will take it that you apologize for your mistake on the 2nd law of thermodynamics as well? It's an easy mistake to make.

All that is very sweet, but I'd rather you considered what you are trying to do with your life's work instead. You know, a little bit less give your money to the government and a bit more here's a way to conserve resources and cost you less money?
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Re: Congrats to US and China on Climate Change

Postby Metsfanmax on Wed Dec 10, 2014 11:23 am

_sabotage_ wrote:I will take it that you apologize for your mistake on the 2nd law of thermodynamics as well? It's an easy mistake to make.


No. Stop thinking that your college course on climate change makes you qualified to talk about physics.
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Re: Congrats to US and China on Climate Change

Postby _sabotage_ on Wed Dec 10, 2014 11:26 am

Dalhousie is a university, but more than that it is an institution. You would probably admire it, it gets lots of government funding, and still manages to lose money. You asked me to quote a physics book, I did. You then admitted you were wrong. Oh wait, you didn't.
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Re: Congrats to US and China on Climate Change

Postby Metsfanmax on Wed Dec 10, 2014 1:41 pm

_sabotage_ wrote:Dalhousie is a university, but more than that it is an institution. You would probably admire it, it gets lots of government funding, and still manages to lose money. You asked me to quote a physics book, I did. You then admitted you were wrong. Oh wait, you didn't.


It is OK to admit that there are people out there who know more than you. Your ego will probably survive that experience.

(inb4 "yeah, but you're not one of them")
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Re: Congrats to US and China on Climate Change

Postby BigBallinStalin on Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:12 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:
_sabotage_ wrote:Dalhousie is a university, but more than that it is an institution. You would probably admire it, it gets lots of government funding, and still manages to lose money. You asked me to quote a physics book, I did. You then admitted you were wrong. Oh wait, you didn't.


It is OK to admit that there are people out there who know more than you. Your ego will probably survive that experience.

(inb4 "yeah, but you're not one of them")


Yeah, but you're definitely not one of them.


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Re: Congrats to US and China on Climate Change

Postby _sabotage_ on Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:13 pm

I don't need people to take me seriously on this matter, my livelihood doesn't depend on it, yours does.

It's hard for people to take you seriously when you are dogmatic and refuse to concede points which you have conceded.

I copied the 2nd law from a physics book, the one which you told me I was wrong about. You didn't tell me I was wrong this time, you instead said it is a "open" system. So it seems you not only are willing to fudge the laws of thermodynamics but the meaning of a closed system.

You then go into expansive reasons why no matter what contrary evidence is presented, it doesn't dent your alarmism.

You offer no solutions except tax. Which ironically you are getting paid by the government to lobby them for. And the hopes you have, that this tax will be put to good use is pretty worthless when you hope the government will forgive student loans, which well, haha, seems you aren't very good at predicting the way your employers work.

My deal is that you seem unable to tell the truth when you quite blatantly should know better. It makes me wonder if you are deluded or deceptive. In either case, it is no sweat off my balls, you're the only one who will suffer from your delusions or deceptions in the long run. You are like the 36% who still believes that Iraq had WMDs, but even worse because you also say you know they didn't.
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Re: Congrats to US and China on Climate Change

Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:24 pm

_sabotage_ wrote:I don't need people to take me seriously on this matter, my livelihood doesn't depend on it, yours does.

It's hard for people to take you seriously when you are dogmatic and refuse to concede points which you have conceded.

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Re: Congrats to US and China on Climate Change

Postby Metsfanmax on Wed Dec 10, 2014 4:06 pm

_sabotage_ wrote:I don't need people to take me seriously on this matter, my livelihood doesn't depend on it, yours does.


Everyone's livelihood depends on having a livable planet. But aside from that, I model stars on supercomputers. My research has very little do with climate change, other than the fact that I know enough about fluid modelling and thermodynamics to understand the basics of climate science.

I copied the 2nd law from a physics book, the one which you told me I was wrong about. You didn't tell me I was wrong this time, you instead said it is a "open" system. So it seems you not only are willing to fudge the laws of thermodynamics but the meaning of a closed system.


What I said is that you have no idea what you are talking about and you're using terminology that you clearly do not understand. I just tried to be a little nicer the first time around.

You offer no solutions except tax. Which ironically you are getting paid by the government to lobby them for.


I am getting paid by the government, and in my spare time I do talk to our elected officials. They're not paying me to do so.

And the hopes you have, that this tax will be put to good use is pretty worthless when you hope the government will forgive student loans, which well, haha, seems you aren't very good at predicting the way your employers work.


Now you're just making shit up. Where did I ever say that I hope the government will "forgive" student loans?
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Re: Congrats to US and China on Climate Change

Postby _sabotage_ on Wed Dec 10, 2014 8:43 pm

Maybe it was Doom who mentioned forgiving the student loans. Can't be bothered to check.

I'm sorry, but we have different perspectives, you see, I do understand the terminology. When you are able to quantify the sum of inputs and outputs a system is closed. Do I need to get out my engineering books?

Everyone's livelihood depends on a livable planet. Yes, so please stop trying to destroy it. You give the government money and they make shit worse. Do I need to do my Iraq diatribe again? If you insist, I'll copy and paste. Should I get into the war on drugs? Should I talk about the vast increase in heroin since the US occupation of the biggest supplier in the world? Perhaps you would like to discuss the student loans? Maybe discuss US spending and healthcare?

I don't take it that you are that uninformed. So I guess you are trying to be on the upside of the increasing income gap. Either way, maybe it was Doom, but you still aren't very good at predicting the way your employer works, or you are just trying to boil a frog. Andy, use bad translator for that, thanks.
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