Explosions at the Boston Marathon

[thegreekdog]

You watch the videos of the carnage and there are people running TOWARDS the destruction to help out.

Good post by Oswalt. I also noticed and heard that people were running towards the bombs to help. We can never underestimate the evil and then good in people.

[Symmetry]

You watch the videos of the carnage and there are people running TOWARDS the destruction to help out.

Good post by Oswalt. I also noticed and heard that people were running towards the bombs to help. We can never underestimate the evil and then good in people.

Well said.

[Woodruff]

If the government would just put God and guns back into marathons, things like this wouldn't happen.

[thegreekdog]

If the government would just put God and guns back into marathons, things like this wouldn't happen.

Really dude? That's your comeback post? I mean, nevermind that all signs point to international terrorism, not domestic terrorism. Nice job.

[Woodruff]

If the government would just put God and guns back into marathons, things like this wouldn't happen.

Really dude? That's your comeback post? I mean, nevermind that all signs point to international terrorism, not domestic terrorism. Nice job.

1. It wasn't my comeback post. I've already posted previously, a number of days ago. It was roundly ignored because it was a criticism of the moderation policies on this site and well...nobody still seems to give a f*ck about that.

2. It's funny, because I seem to recall your having stated of me that "all I really remember of his political position is sarcasm". And yet, when I say something sarcastic, you seem to have utterly missed it. Hell, never mind the sarcasm, you didn't even get the point of my statement.

3. Where did I make any reference at all to suggesting that this was domestic terrorism? Does God or guns only work on domestic terrorists? Someone should tell the military.

4. The only thing that stops a bad guy with a bomb is a good guy with a bomb.

[thegreekdog]

If the government would just put God and guns back into marathons, things like this wouldn't happen.

Really dude? That's your comeback post? I mean, nevermind that all signs point to international terrorism, not domestic terrorism. Nice job.

1. It wasn't my comeback post. I've already posted previously, a number of days ago. It was roundly ignored because it was a criticism of the moderation policies on this site and well...nobody still seems to give a f*ck about that.

2. It's funny, because I seem to recall your having stated of me that "all I really remember of his political position is sarcasm". And yet, when I say something sarcastic, you seem to have utterly missed it. Hell, never mind the sarcasm, you didn't even get the point of my statement.

3. Where did I make any reference at all to suggesting that this was domestic terrorism? Does God or guns only work on domestic terrorists? Someone should tell the military.

1. Great.
2. No idea if I said that or not, but see 1. And sure, I got the point of your post. It was a hamfisted troll of Night Strike and/or Phatscotty.
3. I had not heard that international terrorists were very concerned about gun control in the United States. Good to know.

[Woodruff]

If the government would just put God and guns back into marathons, things like this wouldn't happen.

Really dude? That's your comeback post? I mean, nevermind that all signs point to international terrorism, not domestic terrorism. Nice job.

1. It wasn't my comeback post. I've already posted previously, a number of days ago. It was roundly ignored because it was a criticism of the moderation policies on this site and well...nobody still seems to give a f*ck about that.

2. It's funny, because I seem to recall your having stated of me that "all I really remember of his political position is sarcasm". And yet, when I say something sarcastic, you seem to have utterly missed it. Hell, never mind the sarcasm, you didn't even get the point of my statement.

3. Where did I make any reference at all to suggesting that this was domestic terrorism? Does God or guns only work on domestic terrorists? Someone should tell the military.

1. Great.
2. No idea if I said that or not, but see 1. And sure, I got the point of your post. It was a hamfisted troll of Night Strike and/or Phatscotty.
3. I had not heard that international terrorists were very concerned about gun control in the United States. Good to know.

It was not a troll of Night Strike or Phatscotty, but I suppose you're unable to think past the obvious. You should work on that. It was a statement pointing out the lunacy that has been stated about our school systems. You might remember that I work in one. Just because Night Strike or Phatscotty or anyone else also happened to make moronic statements about our school systems doesn't change that. My #4 also made reference to that.

As far as your #3, that's still not relevant to the odd conclusion you seemed to be trying to force on me. Then again, I suppose I shouldn't be too surprised by that from you.

[Symmetry]

3. I had not heard that international terrorists were very concerned about gun control in the United States. Good to know.

3. See the fourth post in the thread. I think that was what he was referring to,

[thegreekdog]

3. I had not heard that international terrorists were very concerned about gun control in the United States. Good to know.

3. See the fourth post in the thread. I think that was what he was referring to,

I thought about that, because I also thought it was domestic terrorists initially, but then we have this explanation:

It was a statement pointing out the lunacy that has been stated about our school systems.

In a thread about the explosions at the Boston Marathon, Woodruff decided to make a post, his first in a long time in an off topics thread, about the conservative argument that God and guns should be in schools to make them safer. This was his contribution to this thread.

I also would note, Woodruff, that there was no number 4 until I responded to your initial post. If you keep backtracking like this, you might just go right out the door! It would have been a great troll of Night Strike or Phatscotty too, if it had been confirmed that it was a domestic terrorist. You just jumped the gun.

[thegreekdog]

To get back on topic (sort of), I wonder how the Saudi national was treated (the one who was detained).

[Sackett58]

You don't think this has happened before. But we keep on moving along because as Juan mentioned, there are a lot more people who are good than bad in this world.

United States 1865–1877: Over 3000 Freedmen and their Republican Party allies were killed by the Ku Klux Klan and well-organized campaigns of violence by other local whites in a campaign of terrorist violence that weakened the reconstructionist governments in the American South and helped re-establish legitimized segregation.[1][2]
United States 1910, 1 October: Los Angeles Times bombing by a member of the International Association of Bridge and Structural Iron Workers Union killed 21 people and injured an additional 100
United States 1920, 16 September: Wall Street bombing killed 38 people and wounded 300 others
United States 1940, 4 July: Time bomb is left at the British Pavillion at the 1939 New York World's Fair, 2 policeman are killed
United States 1940–1956: George Metesky, the "Mad Bomber", placed over 30 bombs in New York City in public places such as Grand Central Station and The Paramount Theater, injuring ten during this period in protest against the local electric utility. He also sent many threatening letters.[6]

[Woodruff]

In a thread about the explosions at the Boston Marathon, Woodruff decided to make a post, his first in a long time in an off topics thread

As I've already pointed out, this wasn't my first post in Off-Topics in a long time, unless you consider a couple of days to be a long time (following months of absence).

about the conservative argument that God and guns should be in schools to make them safer. This was his contribution to this thread.

Again, you claim that you understand my sarcasm, and then intentionally overlook it so that you can paint me in a bad light because I'm not a conservative like you. Well done.

I also would note, Woodruff, that there was no number 4 until I responded to your initial post.

I know, I could tell that. That's why I pointed it out in the follow-up. You were just too quick for me.

If you keep backtracking like this, you might just go right out the door!

Backtracking? What backtracking?

It would have been a great troll of Night Strike or Phatscotty too, if it had been confirmed that it was a domestic terrorist. You just jumped the gun.

Jumped what gun? As I've already stated, my point had nothing at all to do with either domestic or international terrorism. My point had to do with the lunatic claims about the public school systems. I'm sorry that you're unable to avoid trying to twist that, but it's the truth. Based on what I've seen throughout your posts in Off-Topics, It's too bad that you seem to have become more conservative in your statements since I've been gone. I didn't think it had been that long, and it's most disappointing. Maybe it was always there and I was just too close to see it before, I don't know.

[Woodruff]

To get back on topic (sort of), I wonder how the Saudi national was treated (the one who was detained).

I fear that whether he is guilty or not, he is guilty. I hope that won't be the case, but I fear it will. And the really unfortunate part of that (aside from how he is treated) is that the government has obviously clouded my trust of it to the point where I will doubt it even if he WAS IN FACT guilty.

[fadedpsychosis]

4. The only thing that stops a bad guy with a bomb is a good guy with a bomb.

you forgot the buffer of civilian casualties from both bomb blasts...

[ooge]

My heart goes out to those affected by this cowardly act of foreign or domestic terrorism.

[MegaProphet]

To get back on topic (sort of), I wonder how the Saudi national was treated (the one who was detained).

I fear that whether he is guilty or not, he is guilty. I hope that won't be the case, but I fear it will. And the really unfortunate part of that (aside from how he is treated) is that the government has obviously clouded my trust of it to the point where I will doubt it even if he WAS IN FACT guilty.

According to these articles he isn't connected.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/0 ... story.html
http://news.yahoo.com/boston-marathon-b ... 0615.html/

[BigBallinStalin]

You don't think this has happened before. But we keep on moving along because as Juan mentioned, there are a lot more people who are good than bad in this world.

United States 1865–1877: Over 3000 Freedmen and their Republican Party allies were killed by the Ku Klux Klan and well-organized campaigns of violence by other local whites in a campaign of terrorist violence that weakened the reconstructionist governments in the American South and helped re-establish legitimized segregation.[1][2]
United States 1910, 1 October: Los Angeles Times bombing by a member of the International Association of Bridge and Structural Iron Workers Union killed 21 people and injured an additional 100
United States 1920, 16 September: Wall Street bombing killed 38 people and wounded 300 others
United States 1940, 4 July: Time bomb is left at the British Pavillion at the 1939 New York World's Fair, 2 policeman are killed
United States 1940–1956: George Metesky, the "Mad Bomber", placed over 30 bombs in New York City in public places such as Grand Central Station and The Paramount Theater, injuring ten during this period in protest against the local electric utility. He also sent many threatening letters.[6]

Good to know. The US experience of (international) terrorism usually begins in '79 or '69 (I forget). IIRC, it's when that group in Lebanon(?) ran a truck into a US barracks, detonated it, and killed 300 or so soldiers.

[Phatscotty]

If the government would just put God and guns back into marathons, things like this wouldn't happen.

Really dude? That's your comeback post? I mean, nevermind that all signs point to international terrorism, not domestic terrorism. Nice job.

LMAO.

Perhaps he learned it by watching you!

[Woodruff]

To get back on topic (sort of), I wonder how the Saudi national was treated (the one who was detained).

I fear that whether he is guilty or not, he is guilty. I hope that won't be the case, but I fear it will. And the really unfortunate part of that (aside from how he is treated) is that the government has obviously clouded my trust of it to the point where I will doubt it even if he WAS IN FACT guilty.

According to these articles he isn't connected.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/0 ... story.html
http://news.yahoo.com/boston-marathon-b ... 0615.html/

I wouldn't mind if they treated him as a suspect while they gathered more information, but I'm VERY pleased to see that they're not (at this time). It gives me back a little bit of a good view of how our security personnel are handling it.

Hard to really blame a guy for running in that circumstance, even being innocent...he probably saw HIS life flash before his eyes, thinking about either unjust arrest/trial or vigilante justice.

[Juan_Bottom]

3. I had not heard that international terrorists were very concerned about gun control in the United States. Good to know.

UNBELIEVABLE VIDEO! Most-Wanted Al Qaeda Terrorist, Adam Gadahn, Likes NRA Gun Show Loophole


Oh, they talk about it.

[thegreekdog]

3. I had not heard that international terrorists were very concerned about gun control in the United States. Good to know.

UNBELIEVABLE VIDEO! Most-Wanted Al Qaeda Terrorist, Adam Gadahn, Likes NRA Gun Show Loophole


Oh, they talk about it.

Good to know.

Woodruff - Why didn't you post this video? Oh right, because you were trolling Phatscotty and Night Strike.

[Phatscotty]

3. I had not heard that international terrorists were very concerned about gun control in the United States. Good to know.

UNBELIEVABLE VIDEO! Most-Wanted Al Qaeda Terrorist, Adam Gadahn, Likes NRA Gun Show Loophole


Oh, they talk about it.

YES! America should make it's law's based around what al-qada "says"!

God help us

[_sabotage_]

Which Al Qaeda? the one we still support, the one we say Bin Laden was a/the leader of, the one we used to support in Afghan, the one that we put together for the RICO conviction pre-9/11, the one that helps attack errant nations like Libya and Syria, or the regular ol Islamic fundamentalist terrorists?

Can we have an official breakdown of if al Qaeda then which subunit? it's left wingers, an al Qaeda rogue gunman, their stated leader, which exact section perpetrated it and what are their clear motives?

Get to the bottom of it and leave no trails unchecked and the outcome would provide a clear sense of justice, and then we would have a trial that dwarfed OJs and allowed for informed debate.

It is a tragedy, but at which scale and to what response? Dimes says, because we can envision it reoccurring, BBS thinks we have no market for it.

The TSA will tighten, screening of information will increase, "procedure" will be permanently bypassed and at the end of the day, our knowledge of what happened in Boston will be murky at best. Fear the unknown, fear is what will create the market.

[warmonger1981]

Any news about government doing bomb drill that day in that area??

[Woodruff]

3. I had not heard that international terrorists were very concerned about gun control in the United States. Good to know.

UNBELIEVABLE VIDEO! Most-Wanted Al Qaeda Terrorist, Adam Gadahn, Likes NRA Gun Show Loophole


Oh, they talk about it.

Good to know.

Woodruff - Why didn't you post this video? Oh right, because you were trolling Phatscotty and Night Strike.

Or because...you know...I've never seen that video. It's also not relevant to the point I was making.

I mean, seriously greek? You seem to have really gone off the deep end.