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Postby 2dimes on Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:26 pm

Well, the op is in China so...
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Re: 100,000 Christians are murdered for their faith each yea

Postby oVo on Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:31 pm

Is there a list that breaks it down by core belief...
Catholic, Protestant, Baptist, Lutheran, etc.

Just want to know who's the most vulnerable.
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Postby TeeGee on Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:45 pm

mrswdk wrote:So Muslims will only try to kill you a little bit?


Its not just muslims who kill christians.. christians are also very good at killing each other, just look at Ireland in the 1980's.
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Re: 100,000 Christians are murdered for their faith each yea

Postby mrswdk on Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:37 pm

The Troubles in Ireland killed 3,500 people in about 30 years. It's hardly in the same league as 100,000 a year.
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Postby mrswdk on Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:46 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24605130

Three people, including a girl aged eight, died when gunmen on motorcycles opened fire on a wedding party outside a Coptic Christian church in Cairo.

Egypt's Coptic Christian community has been targeted by some Islamists who accuse the Church of backing the army's overthrow of President Mohammed Morsi in July.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-24193734

A twin-suicide bombing outside a church in Peshwar has killed at least 75 people, in one of the worst attacks on Christians in the country.


http://www.worthynews.com/12614-nigeria ... christians

Herdsmen killed 15 Christians in Nigeria's Kaduna state early Saturday morning when Fulani Muslims assaulted the Christian village of Zangang.
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Postby Phatscotty on Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:47 pm

which one is the source for the OP? You should really include the 'research' up front
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Postby mrswdk on Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:49 pm

The Vatican is the source. I told you exactly who I was quoting in my OP.
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Postby Metsfanmax on Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:55 pm

mrswdk wrote:The Vatican is the source. I told you exactly who I was quoting in my OP.


That's not the original source; that's secondhand information. Since no one was looking it up, I googled the quote. And lo and behold, the BBC did our job for us:

Its researchers started by estimating the number of Christians who died as martyrs between 2000 and 2010 - about one million by their reckoning - and divided that number by 10 to get an annual number, 100,000.

But how do they reach that figure of one million?

When you dig down, you see that the majority died in the civil war in the Democratic Republic of Congo.

More than four million are estimated to have been killed in that war between 2000 and 2010, and CSGC counts 900,000 of them - or 20% - as martyrs.

Over 10 years, that averages out at 90,000 per year.

So when you hear that 100,000 Christians are dying for their faith, you need to keep in mind that the vast majority - 90,000 - are people who were killed in DR Congo.

This means we can say right away that the internet rumours of Muslims being behind the killing of 100,000 Christian martyrs are nonsense. The DRC is a Christian country. In the civil war, Christians were killing Christians.
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Postby mrswdk on Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:38 pm

So there we go. Christians are indeed being slaughtered wholesale, and there is your study which proves it.

Ever noticed how it's always Christians and Jews being persecuted? The only two civilised religions in a sea of savagery.
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Postby 2dimes on Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:43 pm

I like several religions. Buddhism is typically very gentle. Often to the point of being vegetarian and caring for insects. Savagery?
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Postby chang50 on Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:45 pm

mrswdk wrote:So there we go. Christians are indeed being slaughtered wholesale, and there is your study which proves it.

Ever noticed how it's always Christians and Jews being persecuted? The only two civilised religions in a sea of savagery.


No,Muslims have their sectarian divides also and they've been killing and persecuting each other almost from the get go..
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Postby chang50 on Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:52 pm

2dimes wrote:I like several religions. Buddhism is typically very gentle. Often to the point of being vegetarian and caring for insects. Savagery?


The religion itself is peaceful,as are most.The problem is the adherents,look at Tibet before Communism,or the Sri lankan civil war,or the persecution and murder of Muslims in Myanmar currently ongoing by Buddhists,including monks.
I've been in Thailand long enough to see Buddhists are not especially gentle people,and this is a Western stereotype looking through rose-tinted glasses.
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Postby Symmetry on Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:52 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:
mrswdk wrote:The Vatican is the source. I told you exactly who I was quoting in my OP.


That's not the original source; that's secondhand information. Since no one was looking it up, I googled the quote. And lo and behold, the BBC did our job for us:

Its researchers started by estimating the number of Christians who died as martyrs between 2000 and 2010 - about one million by their reckoning - and divided that number by 10 to get an annual number, 100,000.

But how do they reach that figure of one million?

When you dig down, you see that the majority died in the civil war in the Democratic Republic of Congo.

More than four million are estimated to have been killed in that war between 2000 and 2010, and CSGC counts 900,000 of them - or 20% - as martyrs.

Over 10 years, that averages out at 90,000 per year.

So when you hear that 100,000 Christians are dying for their faith, you need to keep in mind that the vast majority - 90,000 - are people who were killed in DR Congo.

This means we can say right away that the internet rumours of Muslims being behind the killing of 100,000 Christian martyrs are nonsense. The DRC is a Christian country. In the civil war, Christians were killing Christians.


I think you left out the key part:

This means we can say right away that the internet rumours of Muslims being behind the killing of 100,000 Christian martyrs are nonsense.


I'm not sure why this kind of blatant Islamophobia should be published by this site.
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Postby BigBallinStalin on Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:56 pm

I can't believe ConquerClub has become a publisher. What works have they done? Are they on Amazon? Is this why CC membership has been soaring recently?

So many questions, so little Christians.
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Postby Symmetry on Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:06 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:I can't believe ConquerClub has become a publisher. What works have they done? Are they on Amazon? Is this why CC membership has been soaring recently?

So many questions, so little Christians.


They publish, no?:

Publishing is the process of production and dissemination of literature, music, or information — the activity of making information available to the general public.


The forums are available to the general public, and published.

Sorry that you can't pick up your argument on Amazon. Perhaps you've found a gap in the market for your increasingly eccentric ramblings.
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Postby Metsfanmax on Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:13 pm

Symmetry wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
mrswdk wrote:The Vatican is the source. I told you exactly who I was quoting in my OP.


That's not the original source; that's secondhand information. Since no one was looking it up, I googled the quote. And lo and behold, the BBC did our job for us:

Its researchers started by estimating the number of Christians who died as martyrs between 2000 and 2010 - about one million by their reckoning - and divided that number by 10 to get an annual number, 100,000.

But how do they reach that figure of one million?

When you dig down, you see that the majority died in the civil war in the Democratic Republic of Congo.

More than four million are estimated to have been killed in that war between 2000 and 2010, and CSGC counts 900,000 of them - or 20% - as martyrs.

Over 10 years, that averages out at 90,000 per year.

So when you hear that 100,000 Christians are dying for their faith, you need to keep in mind that the vast majority - 90,000 - are people who were killed in DR Congo.

This means we can say right away that the internet rumours of Muslims being behind the killing of 100,000 Christian martyrs are nonsense. The DRC is a Christian country. In the civil war, Christians were killing Christians.


I think you left out the key part:

This means we can say right away that the internet rumours of Muslims being behind the killing of 100,000 Christian martyrs are nonsense.


I'm not sure why this kind of blatant Islamophobia should be published by this site.


Uh, what? It's right there are the bottom of my quote.
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Postby Symmetry on Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:15 pm

Urgh- Symmetry fail, no excuses.
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Postby BigBallinStalin on Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:27 pm

Symmetry wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:I can't believe ConquerClub has become a publisher. What works have they done? Are they on Amazon? Is this why CC membership has been soaring recently?

So many questions, so little Christians.


They publish, no?:


What's ConquerClub publishing?
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Postby Symmetry on Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:29 pm

I'm still unsure about why this blatant bigotry should be published here, though.
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Postby Symmetry on Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:37 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:What's ConquerClub publishing?


You are aware that the threads on this site are published on google, right? Anyone can view the stuff that CC puts out within the forums. I'd call that publishing.

What would you call it?
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Postby BigBallinStalin on Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:40 pm

Symmetry wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:What's ConquerClub publishing?


You are aware that the threads on this site are published on google, right? Anyone can view the stuff that CC puts out within the forums. I'd call that publishing.

What would you call it?


So google's publishing this, or ConquerClub is publishing this? You're being very vague, so I'd appreciate some clarity.
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Postby Metsfanmax on Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:42 pm

Symmetry, I get the sense that mrswdk is being more than a little ironic here.
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Postby Symmetry on Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:47 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:What's ConquerClub publishing?


You are aware that the threads on this site are published on google, right? Anyone can view the stuff that CC puts out within the forums. I'd call that publishing.

What would you call it?


So google's publishing this, or ConquerClub is publishing this? You're being very vague, so I'd appreciate some clarity.


I'm still unclear about what you would call it, so, having given an answer to the poster who was banned for calling for my death, I think you might owe me an answer to my question.
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Postby Symmetry on Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:54 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:Symmetry, I get the sense that mrswdk is being more than a little ironic here.


Probably, but are we talking about the guy with the kid pic labeled "whore" in his sig?
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Postby mrswdk on Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:01 am

chang50 wrote:
mrswdk wrote:So there we go. Christians are indeed being slaughtered wholesale, and there is your study which proves it.

Ever noticed how it's always Christians and Jews being persecuted? The only two civilised religions in a sea of savagery.


No,Muslims have their sectarian divides also and they've been killing and persecuting each other almost from the get go..


Exactly. It is a savage religion.
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