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Re: Lets Run Australia, My Off Topics Denizens (Democracy3 G

Postby rishaed on Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:28 pm

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Re: Lets Run Australia, My Off Topics Denizens (Democracy3 G

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:03 pm

RECAP - AUSTRALIA, Turn 1 (15 Turns to election)


Our Party's Name: The Democratic Union of the Fatherland (DUF)

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I added a little more zest to it, but I like your direction.


Main Opposition Party Name: The (Mean) Green Party

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Initial Policies / Directions Taken:

Each turn, I only have so much 'political capital' to spend.


FOOD STAMPS -- Poverty and Health are bringing down my GDP. Plus, I can also tackle a couple of core groups at once with a policy that doesn't cost too much. Win win.
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RECYCLING -- The Environment is currently pretty terrible, and is also bringing down my GDP and Health stats. I can also make the Environmentalists happy, and also increase the number of people that identify as Environmentalists, increasing the size of my potential voter pool. Also, it doesn't cost too much.
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ARMED POLICE -- Crime (all kinds) are a problem in Australia. Before my policy, we were set to 'Every Department has some weapons' -- which is not a very tough stance on crime. Now we've armed every police officer. Hurts our stance with Liberals though.
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ALCOHOL AWARENESS CAMPAIGN -- Alcohol consumption and abuse is hurting our GDP and Health stats. For relatively low cost, we are going to run some TV, Radio, Internet, Newspaper, and Billboard ads talking about how bad booze is for you and your life and those around you. Suckas.
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We are currently still running a Surplus and not a Deficit, so I am going likely look into either additional controls for Crime (we'll see how it respond to Armed Police), figuring out a way to boost our GDP and ditch the 'uncompetitive enconomy' tag we currently have, and continuing to address health and poverty.

Any additional thoughts on what to do next turn?




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Re: Lets Run Australia, My Off Topics Denizens (Democracy3 G

Postby Dukasaur on Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:45 pm

WTF? My suggested name gets shot down without any debate. It was brilliant.
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Re: Lets Run Australia, My Off Topics Denizens (Democracy3 G

Postby notyou2 on Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:45 pm

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Re: Lets Run Australia, My Off Topics Denizens (Democracy3 G

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:56 pm

Dukasaur wrote:WTF? My suggested name gets shot down without any debate. It was brilliant.


Don't worry, you can still have some input on guiding our fair Australian land.


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Postby Metsfanmax on Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:58 pm

Can we get some libraries? Australians don't know how to speak English properly.
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Re: Lets Run Australia, My Off Topics Denizens (Democracy3 G

Postby notyou2 on Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:02 pm

Andy, I agree with Dukethesore in his assessment. Some of us have to work so we can earn credits from the company bank to buy chits that we pay towards time on CC. I am one of those people. I have to work so phatscotty can sit on his phatass and press keys all day and vent forth inane chatter on the American political system.

Perhaps you should of had a 48 hour ideas period and then we could all discuss the horrible suggestions put forth by armchair politicians and then you could have chosen whatever you wanted. How undemocratic of you.
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Re: Lets Run Australia, My Off Topics Denizens (Democracy3 G

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:12 pm

notyou2 wrote:Andy, I agree with Dukethesore in his assessment. Some of us have to work so we can earn credits from the company bank to buy chits that we pay towards time on CC. I am one of those people. I have to work so phatscotty can sit on his phatass and press keys all day and vent forth inane chatter on the American political system.

Perhaps you should of had a 48 hour ideas period and then we could all discuss the horrible suggestions put forth by armchair politicians and then you could have chosen whatever you wanted. How undemocratic of you.


Silly. I'll give you all a full 24 hours now, if not around 40 something.

Metsfanmax wrote:Can we get some libraries? Australians don't know how to speak English properly.

I can indeed fund libraries -- and state colleges, technical colleges, and all sorts of other things.


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Re: Lets Run Australia, My Off Topics Denizens (Democracy3 G

Postby Dukasaur on Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:21 pm

Dukasaur wrote:Anyway the name of our party should be ANZAC Patrimony! Everyone who is now living has been brought up with the legends (some say the myths) of the superiority of the ANZACs to mortal men, and feeling superior to others is the mark of a great civilization. In the immortal words of Charles Bean, "ANZAC stood, and still stands, for reckless valour in a good cause, for enterprise, resourcefulness, fidelity, comradeship, and endurance that will never own defeat." These are all wonderful, positive attributes, and it behooves us to create this automatic connotation in the voter's mind. (I realize most of the candidates we present will be parasitical backstabbing thieves, but it doesn't matter what they are, it only matters what people think they are. If they are given the halo of "enterprise, resourcefulness, fidelity, comradeship, and endurance that will never own defeat." without even trying, that will carry them a long way!

The other half of our name, Patrimony, is also excellent material. It means everything and nothing, depending on who you are and where you stand. To the aboriginal, it might mean that we will rule positively on native land claims. To the traditional British loyalist, it might mean we stand by the line of Kings. To the non-British European, it might mean that we will restore our heritage of banning non-white immigration. To the Asian, it might mean that he's welcome to bring his colourful birth culture with him. We can actually imply all four of those policies in our platform, as long as we use plenty of good buzzwords to fuzzy up the optics a little bit. (Think, "enterprise, resourcefulness, fidelity, comradeship, and endurance that will never own defeat" at every opportunity!) If anyone questions inherent contradictions in the policies, it is pretty easy to give them a condescending smirk, answer with "enterprise, resourcefulness, fidelity, comradeship, and endurance that will never own defeat" and turn to the next question immediately.

I think Patrimony also positions us very nicely with regard to social trends in the family. If there is a trend back to traditional marriage, we can campaign on the slogan "Patrimony is Right Next to Matrimony!" On the other hand, if there the reverse is the trend, and traditional marriage goes out of fashion, our slogan becomes "Patrimony is the Opposite of Matrimony!" So much potential!
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Re: Lets Run Australia, My Off Topics Denizens (Democracy3 G

Postby notyou2 on Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:23 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:Anyway the name of our party should be ANZAC Patrimony! Everyone who is now living has been brought up with the legends (some say the myths) of the superiority of the ANZACs to mortal men, and feeling superior to others is the mark of a great civilization. In the immortal words of Charles Bean, "ANZAC stood, and still stands, for reckless valour in a good cause, for enterprise, resourcefulness, fidelity, comradeship, and endurance that will never own defeat." These are all wonderful, positive attributes, and it behooves us to create this automatic connotation in the voter's mind. (I realize most of the candidates we present will be parasitical backstabbing thieves, but it doesn't matter what they are, it only matters what people think they are. If they are given the halo of "enterprise, resourcefulness, fidelity, comradeship, and endurance that will never own defeat." without even trying, that will carry them a long way!

The other half of our name, Patrimony, is also excellent material. It means everything and nothing, depending on who you are and where you stand. To the aboriginal, it might mean that we will rule positively on native land claims. To the traditional British loyalist, it might mean we stand by the line of Kings. To the non-British European, it might mean that we will restore our heritage of banning non-white immigration. To the Asian, it might mean that he's welcome to bring his colourful birth culture with him. We can actually imply all four of those policies in our platform, as long as we use plenty of good buzzwords to fuzzy up the optics a little bit. (Think, "enterprise, resourcefulness, fidelity, comradeship, and endurance that will never own defeat" at every opportunity!) If anyone questions inherent contradictions in the policies, it is pretty easy to give them a condescending smirk, answer with "enterprise, resourcefulness, fidelity, comradeship, and endurance that will never own defeat" and turn to the next question immediately.

I think Patrimony also positions us very nicely with regard to social trends in the family. If there is a trend back to traditional marriage, we can campaign on the slogan "Patrimony is Right Next to Matrimony!" On the other hand, if there the reverse is the trend, and traditional marriage goes out of fashion, our slogan becomes "Patrimony is the Opposite of Matrimony!" So much potential!


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Re: Lets Run Australia, My Off Topics Denizens (Democracy3 G

Postby thegreekdog on Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:48 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:
notyou2 wrote:Andy, I agree with Dukethesore in his assessment. Some of us have to work so we can earn credits from the company bank to buy chits that we pay towards time on CC. I am one of those people. I have to work so phatscotty can sit on his phatass and press keys all day and vent forth inane chatter on the American political system.

Perhaps you should of had a 48 hour ideas period and then we could all discuss the horrible suggestions put forth by armchair politicians and then you could have chosen whatever you wanted. How undemocratic of you.


Silly. I'll give you all a full 24 hours now, if not around 40 something.

Metsfanmax wrote:Can we get some libraries? Australians don't know how to speak English properly.

I can indeed fund libraries -- and state colleges, technical colleges, and all sorts of other things.


--Andy


Can you direct what state colleges, technical colleges, etc. teach? If you can, then fund those babies right now, throw in some government-provided textbooks and you've got your next wave of voters (Chapter One: Andy Dufresne is the Greatest Prime President Minister Evah!). If not, then don't do it. More education may equal more informed voters. You don't want that.
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Re: Lets Run Australia, My Off Topics Denizens (Democracy3 G

Postby notyou2 on Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:53 pm

Salt peter in the water supply!!!!!
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Re: Lets Run Australia, My Off Topics Denizens (Democracy3 G

Postby BigBallinStalin on Mon Feb 10, 2014 11:22 pm

The People need jobs! Make jobs, Andy!
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Re: Lets Run Australia, My Off Topics Denizens (Democracy3 G

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:07 am

I've got it. We can start a state-sponsored Axis-and-Allies tournament. It will create tourism jobs, construction jobs for the $10 billion dollar complex and players-village and media jobs.

All the games will use the optional ANZAC rules to make Duke happy.
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Re: Lets Run Australia, My Off Topics Denizens (Democracy3 G

Postby notyou2 on Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:11 am

We will need to purchase a large quantity of 3D printers to make all the little pieces.
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Re: Lets Run Australia, My Off Topics Denizens (Democracy3 G

Postby BigBallinStalin on Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:44 am

Now we're thinking. BUT we can't import these products. We have to make them from scratch, so more jobs will be created!!!
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Postby thegreekdog on Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:13 am

Create tax credits and cash incentives for 3D printing and Axis and Allies games.
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Re: Lets Run Australia, My Off Topics Denizens (Democracy3 G

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:05 am

thegreekdog wrote:
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notyou2 wrote:Andy, I agree with Dukethesore in his assessment. Some of us have to work so we can earn credits from the company bank to buy chits that we pay towards time on CC. I am one of those people. I have to work so phatscotty can sit on his phatass and press keys all day and vent forth inane chatter on the American political system.

Perhaps you should of had a 48 hour ideas period and then we could all discuss the horrible suggestions put forth by armchair politicians and then you could have chosen whatever you wanted. How undemocratic of you.


Silly. I'll give you all a full 24 hours now, if not around 40 something.

Metsfanmax wrote:Can we get some libraries? Australians don't know how to speak English properly.

I can indeed fund libraries -- and state colleges, technical colleges, and all sorts of other things.


--Andy


Can you direct what state colleges, technical colleges, etc. teach? If you can, then fund those babies right now, throw in some government-provided textbooks and you've got your next wave of voters (Chapter One: Andy Dufresne is the Greatest Prime President Minister Evah!). If not, then don't do it. More education may equal more informed voters. You don't want that.


I can't really specify what is being taught -- outside of Evolution vs Creationism. Right now, we are set to 'both systems' taught. Related, I can fund Stem Cell Research. I can increase funding for schools, giving them more modern text books. Right now, we are set to something like 'sharing old text books' or something I think.

BigBallinStalin wrote:The People need jobs! Make jobs, Andy!


Private sector or public sector jobs? I can always put some small business grants and such out, or setup a business council to have big corporations have a say in my governance. Or I can increase more public sector jobs and state employees (military, police, education, etc).


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Re: Lets Run Australia, My Off Topics Denizens (Democracy3 G

Postby BigBallinStalin on Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:42 am

AndyDufresne wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:The People need jobs! Make jobs, Andy!


Private sector or public sector jobs? I can always put some small business grants and such out, or setup a business council to have big corporations have a say in my governance. Or I can increase more public sector jobs and state employees (military, police, education, etc).


--Andy


What? No/Yes, because socialism, and blame it on teh corporations!!

How about subsidies to farmers? The poor need jobs! The socialists need jobs! The jobs need jobs!

(I'm not sure how the game models wealth creation. Pick whichever boosts the well-being of those Medium groups. Small business grants (e.g. to farmers) should benefit the poor and the farmers. It might annoy the envr/socialist crowd a little, but that should be offset by the gains from the Wealthy/fat cats/middle income, so at least they won't try to kill you yet).
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Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:47 am

BigBallinStalin wrote:What? No/Yes, because socialism, and blame it on teh corporations!!

How about subsidies to farmers? The poor need jobs! The socialists need jobs! The jobs need jobs!

(I'm not sure how the game models wealth creation. Pick whichever boosts the well-being of those Medium groups. Small business grants (e.g. to farmers) should benefit the poor and the farmers. It might annoy the envr/socialist crowd a little, but that should be offset by the gains from the Wealthy/fat cats/middle income, so at least they won't try to kill you yet).

I can definitely subsidize agriculture if desired.


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Postby Gillipig on Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:48 am

BigBallinStalin wrote:Now we're thinking. BUT we can't import these products. We have to make them from scratch, so more jobs will be created!!!

Finally you're talking sense. Be prepared to be quoted on this Obama.
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Re: Lets Run Australia, My Off Topics Denizens (Democracy3 G

Postby BigBallinStalin on Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:27 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:What? No/Yes, because socialism, and blame it on teh corporations!!

How about subsidies to farmers? The poor need jobs! The socialists need jobs! The jobs need jobs!

(I'm not sure how the game models wealth creation. Pick whichever boosts the well-being of those Medium groups. Small business grants (e.g. to farmers) should benefit the poor and the farmers. It might annoy the envr/socialist crowd a little, but that should be offset by the gains from the Wealthy/fat cats/middle income, so at least they won't try to kill you yet).

I can definitely subsidize agriculture if desired.


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Postby Dukasaur on Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:36 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:.

I can definitely subsidize agriculture if desired.


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May a 1 billion subsidized farmers spring forth!

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Re: Lets Run Australia, My Off Topics Denizens (Democracy3 G

Postby BigBallinStalin on Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:48 pm

He actually hangs to the right, but after consulting with Lenin, the sculptor reluctantly obeyed.
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Postby DoomYoshi on Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:48 pm

90% of men hang to the left... it's not surprising.
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