Should we just Join Russia?

[betiko]

Why the fuckity hell would you guys choose Russia instead of China? I'll tell you: you're all a bunch of racists, chumming up to the white guy. Probably because you are intimidated by the cultural superiority of the Chinese civilization state as compared to your degenerate failed empires.

China will be twice the size of the US within all of your lifetimes. Might as well learn how to use chopsticks sooner rather than later, bitches!

chinese and russians have very poor taste for interior decorating so it was a tough choice.

[muy_thaiguy]

Why the fuckity hell would you guys choose Russia instead of China? I'll tell you: you're all a bunch of racists, chumming up to the white guy. Probably because you are intimidated by the cultural superiority of the Chinese civilization state as compared to your degenerate failed empires.

China will be twice the size of the US within all of your lifetimes. Might as well learn how to use chopsticks sooner rather than later, bitches!

We already have take out ran by people with very thick Chinese/Japanese accents.

[GoranZ]

lol. Opening huge doors to russia given what putin is doing lately isn't the best way to see yourself as truely independant and autonomous. You are just being putin's bitch. So yeah, I understand that you guys need it given that you are one of europe's poorest and smallest countries, no need to denigrate ukranians.

We have no problems with Russia, why need to make enemy of someone that is not?
Independence means that you will bring decisions based on your best interest not because of someone else interest.

And yes, EU isn't capable of much as we have very little leverage over Russia, and they don't give a f*ck of whatever we say as they are obviously a very powerful country. Doesn't mean we can't take positions against them. The 2 warships we have to deliver are a good example. Should we stay firm on our positions and ruin the economy of our ship building sector to make a point? Should we deliver warships to a country that is expanding everywhere around the black sea by force?

If you are independent country you will bring independent decision based on your best interests... If you are not I think its ok to whine for your ship building sector

If you see france as anti macedonians, it's clearly because you position yourselves as russian bitches, just like the serbians.

Well we dont lose a lot by having France on the other side... anyway you guys are not able to do a lot without the help of Americans, British or Germans.

At least the other ex yougoslavian republics are good in sports.

All ex yougoslavian republics are generaly good in sports.

what are macedonians and kosovars (oh yeah, kossovars have 3 good football players who became swiss playing for their national team) good at? You can't take credit for serbian, croatian, montenegran, bosnian and slovenian successes.

Ah... with sports you mean football Not very good at football but we can surprise someone strong like France or England from time to time

yeah i've been told they've been wearing those for centuries!

We sell these to tourists

[betiko]

We have no problems with Russia, why need to make enemy of someone that is not?
Independence means that you will bring decisions based on your best interest not because of someone else interest.

I don't blame you for maintainng good relationships with Russia. i blame you for having such a biaised vision of putin's politics as you can't act more like a corrupt dictator than what he has actually been doing in his country. He's bringing the standards of repression and censorship pretty high against his own people too, and you seem to be ok with it. Even glorifying it...

If you are independent country you will bring independent decision based on your best interests... If you are not I think its ok to whine like chicken for your ship building sector

As far as I'm concerned, france said f*ck to NATO with De Gaulle (becoming allies and not a full time member) and becoming an independent nuclear power, with one of the 5 seats at the UN security council. france takes its own decisions such as not attacking Irak with it's allies when G dub's arguments were bogus. All other EU powers just licked american balls and did what they were told to do. This isn't a conflict of interest only with it's allies; but between it's own economy and foreign politics. (the sell price of these 2 ships is worth more than 20% of your country's overall GDP)

Well we dont lose a lot by having France on the other side... anyway you guys are not able to do a lot without the help of Americans, British or Germans.

Yeah, it's definitely a real tragedy for france not to be allied with one of the smallest and poorest countries in Europe.
Concerning the second point, that's what a global economy is about. We would all do worse without each other. Thinking that we would have more to win than to lose letting macedonia enter the EU is just laughable. (haha)

Ah... with sports you mean football Not very good at football but we can surprise someone strong like France or England from time to time

Not talking about football but sports in general. Even any domain you want. Alexander the great doesn't count as he's definitely to be put in Greek history. Even the name you gave to your country is bogus, given that real Macedonia includes part of Greece, Bulgaria, Albania and Serbia on top of your territory. That would be like the Swiss calling their country "the Alps". Pretty deceptive name, and you've had some problems with the greeks for calling yourselves like that.

[GoranZ]

We have no problems with Russia, why need to make enemy of someone that is not?
Independence means that you will bring decisions based on your best interest not because of someone else interest.

I don't blame you for maintainng good relationships with Russia. i blame you for having such a biaised vision of putin's politics as you can't act more like a corrupt dictator than what he has actually been doing in his country. He's bringing the standards of repression and censorship pretty high against his own people too, and you seem to be ok with it. Even glorifying it...

I think that you have biased vision for Russia, not me... Current Russian politic is according to their best interests, and Putin is fighting for his people(something that can not be disputed). Putin is repressing or censoring his people more then its predecessors... Before you start saying something you should at least read from multiple sources... Not just from those that you like to read.

If you are independent country you will bring independent decision based on your best interests... If you are not I think its ok to whine like chicken for your ship building sector

As far as I'm concerned, france said f*ck to NATO with De Gaulle (becoming allies and not a full time member) and becoming an independent nuclear power, with one of the 5 seats at the UN security council. france takes its own decisions such as not attacking Irak with it's allies when G dub's arguments were bogus. All other EU powers just licked american balls and did what they were told to do. This isn't a conflict of interest only with it's allies; but between it's own economy and foreign politics.

Time will tell how big are your balls.

Well we dont lose a lot by having France on the other side... anyway you guys are not able to do a lot without the help of Americans, British or Germans.

Yeah, it's definitely a real tragedy for france not to be allied with one of the smallest and poorest countries in Europe.
Concerning the second point, that's what a global economy is about. We would all do worse without each other. Thinking that we would have more to win than to lose letting macedonia enter the EU is just laughable. (haha)

I was talking about global politics... not economy. For example British retake Falkland Islands on their own, Germans do what they want without even consulting EU(they act like they own EU), Americans do what they want without consulting anyone in the world(they act like they own the World - few countries that are strong enough to resist them)... But French, do nothing

Ah... with sports you mean football Not very good at football but we can surprise someone strong like France or England from time to time

Not talking about football but sports in general. Even any domain you want.

Handball... 10-th in 2014 European Handball Championship in Denmark, 14-th in 2013 World Championship Basketball... 33-th overall, etc...

Alexander the great doesn't count as he's definitely to be put in Greek history. Even the name you gave to your country is bogus, given that real Macedonia includes part of Greece, Bulgaria, Albania and Serbia on top of your territory.

Alexander was half Ancient Macedonian(father's side), half Ancient Greek(mother's side)... His army was made up from Macedonians(the one for fighting). The territory of Ancient Macedonia now is within Macedonia, Greece and Bulgaria(Albania/Serbia dont have significant parts of that territory).

That would be like the Swiss calling their country "the Alps". Pretty deceptive name, and you've had some problems with the greeks for calling yourselves like that.

As far as I know it is up to someone to name him self as he likes. And the best synonym for Switzerland is "Country of the Alps"
We dont have problems from Greece, we have problems from EU

[betiko]

I think that you have biased vision for Russia, not me... Current Russian politic is according to their best interests, and Putin is fighting for his people(something that can not be disputed). Putin is repressing or censoring his people more then its predecessors... Before you start saying something you should at least read from multiple sources... Not just from those that you like to read.

Sure, I guess stealing ressources from his own coutry the way he has been doing ever since he entered in politics is in the best interest of the Russian people. He is now a days one of the richest men on the planet. his system of balckmail and murders against his opponents seems totally legit and in the best interest of the russian people.Yeah, lots of stardust is thrown around, lots of russians feel like he's bringing back the country to it's past glory. Not sure people in tchetchenia, georgia, ukraine or daguestan are too happy to get murdered and robbed either. Not sure it's fine to be a gay russian living in his home country either.
Let's make the olympics in sotchi (and get again our pockets full), a F1 racetrack there and organize the 2022 world cup! Bread and circus as the romans said! Are you really going to tell me that the russians are living at the economical level they should have with all the ressources the country has and given how this mafia like system is working in the whole country? Do you think the fortunes most of the great oligarcs have are done fairly and that they gain markets without corrupting and murdering?

I was talking about global politics... not economy. For example British retake Falkland Islands on their own, Germans do what they want without even consulting EU(they act like they own EU), Americans do what they want without consulting anyone in the world(they act like they own the World - few countries that are strong enough to resist them)... But French, do nothing

these past 10 years:
-afghanistan (+NATO)
-congo (+EU)
-Ivory coast (+UN)
-lybia (+NATO)
-Mali (only french forces)
-centrafrican republic (only french forces)
-syria (international)
I guess you should inform yourself before talking. And of course the US is more independent and is the leader of the western countries, doesn't mean other western countries don't have their independence and opinions, doing their own interventions when they feel it's right.. You're not going to blame us for agreeing on most things though.

Handball... 10-th in 2014 European Handball Championship in Denmark, 14-th in 2013 World Championship Basketball... 33-th overall, etc...

Handball... you mean the sport that is so totally dominated by france that it's not even funny anymore? out of the last 9 international titles (olympic gold, world championship and european championship) france has won 7 (2 olympic golds, 2 world championships, 3 european championships).
For the record, iceland's population is 10 times smaller than yours and they won an olympic silver medal in handball in 2008 and always do much better.
And basketball, braging about being 33rd when you have Serbia 7th, Croatia 12th and Slovenia 13th really? (and France is the current European champion yay!)

Alexander was half Ancient Macedonian(father's side), half Ancient Greek(mother's side)... His army was made up from Macedonians(the one for fighting). The territory of Ancient Macedonia now is within Macedonia, Greece and Bulgaria(Albania/Serbia dont have significant parts of that territory).

You guys have nothing to do with those macedonians that were there in the 7th century before jesus christ, those were some barbarian/greek mix with a greek dialect, you guys are a majority of slavs with albanian turkish and rom minorities.

As far as I know it is up to someone to name him self as he likes.

Fair enough, as long as you don't go braging that your country has anything to do with the ancient greece macedonia.

[nietzsche]

I'm still undecided on who's winning. I need more info. Do Macedonian women shave their armpits?

[GoranZ]

I think that you have biased vision for Russia, not me... Current Russian politic is according to their best interests, and Putin is fighting for his people(something that can not be disputed). Putin is repressing or censoring his people more then its predecessors... Before you start saying something you should at least read from multiple sources... Not just from those that you like to read.

Sure, I guess stealing ressources from his own coutry the way he has been doing ever since he entered in politics is in the best interest of the Russian people. He is now a days one of the richest men on the planet. his system of balckmail and murders against his opponents seems totally legit and in the best interest of the russian people.Yeah, lots of stardust is thrown around, lots of russians feel like he's bringing back the country to it's past glory. Not sure people in tchetchenia, georgia, ukraine or daguestan are too happy to get murdered and robbed either. Not sure it's fine to be a gay russian living in his home country either.
Let's make the olympics in sotchi (and get again our pockets full), a F1 racetrack there and organize the 2022 world cup! Bread and circus as the romans said! Are you really going to tell me that the russians are living at the economical level they should have with all the ressources the country has and given how this mafia like system is working in the whole country? Do you think the fortunes most of the great oligarcs have are done fairly and that they gain markets without corrupting and murdering?

Gay in Russia... There is no such thing(I totally support Putin on this issue). And oligarchs got majority of their wealth before Putin came to power.

I was talking about global politics... not economy. For example British retake Falkland Islands on their own, Germans do what they want without even consulting EU(they act like they own EU), Americans do what they want without consulting anyone in the world(they act like they own the World - few countries that are strong enough to resist them)... But French, do nothing

these past 10 years:
-afghanistan (+NATO)
-congo (+EU)
-Ivory coast (+UN)
-lybia (+NATO)
-Mali (only french forces)
-centrafrican republic (only french forces)
-syria (international)
I guess you should inform yourself before talking. And of course the US is more independent and is the leader of the western countries, doesn't mean other western countries don't have their independence and opinions, doing their own interventions when they feel it's right.. You're not going to blame us for agreeing on most things though.

Syria You make an enemy, so you can attack it from the air.
Afghanistan... You guys are famous for bribing the Taliban so they wont attack the French forces.
Lybia... Again attacking from the air but after Americans finish the hard job.
Some African countries that use spears for fighting... I'm Impressed

you guys are a majority of slavs with albanian turkish and rom minorities.

With that analogy French are made of gals, muslims, black africans and some rom minorities... not bad

As far as I know it is up to someone to name him self as he likes.

Fair enough, as long as you don't go braging that your country has anything to do with the ancient greece macedonia.

We are not related to Ancient Greeks, they were gays, we are not.

[saxitoxin]

I've decided that if Europe were a U.S. shopping mall -

France = Brookstone - has a bunch of overpriced stuff no one wants, no one knows how it's staying in business
UK = Barnes & Noble - used to dominate the mall; irrelevant since Amazon (= U.S.) started
Switzerland = Lenscrafters - boring but efficient
Greece = Eddie Bauer - big in the 90s, now bankrupt and in liquidation
Finland = Sunglass Hut - known for one thing
Ireland = Destination Maternity - filled with pregnant women
Bulgaria = Hallmark - filled with old women
Netherlands = Hot Topic - filled with weird women
Belgium = GAP
Luxembourg = GAP Kids
Denmark = novelty keychain kiosk near the exit
Turkey = Hickory Farm - smells funny, no one wants their store next to it
Canada = Home Depot - near the mall but not actually in it; where you go to get lumber ... big and drafty
Russia = Target - also not in the mall ... cheaper prices, taking a lot of the mall's business but still getting harassed by Amazon
China = Alibaba - nowhere near the mall ... up-and-coming, has Amazon shitting its pants
Texas = audible.com - owned by Amazon but pretends it's still independent

[betiko]

Gay in Russia... There is no such thing(I totally support Putin on this issue). And oligarchs got majority of their wealth before Putin came to power.

Yeah right, no gays in russia! Is that kind of behaviour something you're cool with? how would you feel if your kids turn out to be gay and get this sort of treatment because of their sexual orientation?


And of course the oligarchs were there Putin arrived in power, just after the USSR broke up. He has just been reinforcing this system of corruption for his own benefits and the ones of his political friends.

Syria You make an enemy, so you can attack it from the air.
Afghanistan... You guys are famous for bribing the Taliban so they wont attack the French forces.
Lybia... Again attacking from the air but after Americans finish the hard job.
Some African countries that use spears for fighting... I'm Impressed

So we go help countries were some attrocities are comitted. What exactly deos your country do to go help/save others? Do you think you have any sort of army that could solve conflicts in africa where they "use spears for fighting"? you guys couldn't even afford a plane to send troops there with chopsticks.

With that analogy French are made of gals, muslims, black africans and some rom minorities... not bad

We have way more ethnicities than this and the majority of the country is very proud of it's cultural mixity thank you!

We are not related to Ancient Greeks, they were gays, we are not.

Come on Goran, I know that you're better than this. Not going to start arguing about that 12 year old comment, but seriously greeks? With all the advancements they gave to mankind in terms of philosophy, arts, science, medecine, democracy, law, the great warriors they were ect... not to mention that they have one of the most beautiful countries on the planet.
You guys even pretend to be greeks giving yourselves the name of macedonians. If you ask people to call you George Clooney Goran, they might do it, but it doesn't mean they will treat you as if you were the real George Clooney, just saying.

[BigBallinStalin]

We have no problems with Russia, why need to make enemy of someone that is not?
Independence means that you will bring decisions based on your best interest not because of someone else interest.

I don't blame you for maintainng good relationships with Russia. i blame you for having such a biaised vision of putin's politics as you can't act more like a corrupt dictator than what he has actually been doing in his country. He's bringing the standards of repression and censorship pretty high against his own people too, and you seem to be ok with it. Even glorifying it...

I think that you have biased vision for Russia, not me... Current Russian politic is according to their best interests, and Putin is fighting for his people(something that can not be disputed). Putin is repressing or censoring his people more then its predecessors... Before you start saying something you should at least read from multiple sources... Not just from those that you like to read.

Why do you assume Putin is "fighting for his people"?

[DoomYoshi]

We have no problems with Russia, why need to make enemy of someone that is not?
Independence means that you will bring decisions based on your best interest not because of someone else interest.

I don't blame you for maintainng good relationships with Russia. i blame you for having such a biaised vision of putin's politics as you can't act more like a corrupt dictator than what he has actually been doing in his country. He's bringing the standards of repression and censorship pretty high against his own people too, and you seem to be ok with it. Even glorifying it...

I think that you have biased vision for Russia, not me... Current Russian politic is according to their best interests, and Putin is fighting for his people(something that can not be disputed). Putin is repressing or censoring his people more then its predecessors... Before you start saying something you should at least read from multiple sources... Not just from those that you like to read.

Why do you assume Putin is "fighting for his people"?

f*ck off, I was going to ask that. It doesn't make sense since Putin claims he is invading (or not invading, as he claims) Ukraine to help the ethnic Russians who live there yet 2/3 of Russia is filled with not ethnic Russians. Should the Khans invade?

(cue Star Trek khan gif)

[JamesKer1]

people fight over pixel size territories, look what china vs japan or japan vs korea, or spain vs uk or spain vs morocco are doing now a days. It's pretty strategic to be everywhere. Or the malwines/falkland islands in the 80s...
European france is 640 000 square KM; while all it's territories outside of europe totalize 550 000 square KM. France has the second largest maritime territory in the world after the US.
The metropolitan population is 66,6 millions while the outer european population on its territories is only 2,7 millions though.

I laughed hysterically after that....

[BigBallinStalin]

betiko, is an unemployment rate of 10.5% an impressive feat for one of the most developed countries of the world?

Since 1984, performance as measured by EU rate seems very unimpressive. It hits less than 8% only twice: once in 1984 briefly, and for 16 months from mid 2007 to late 2008.

http://www.google.com/publicdata/explor ... l=en&dl=en

[betiko]

people fight over pixel size territories, look what china vs japan or japan vs korea, or spain vs uk or spain vs morocco are doing now a days. It's pretty strategic to be everywhere. Or the malwines/falkland islands in the 80s...
European france is 640 000 square KM; while all it's territories outside of europe totalize 550 000 square KM. France has the second largest maritime territory in the world after the US.
The metropolitan population is 66,6 millions while the outer european population on its territories is only 2,7 millions though.

I laughed hysterically after that....

Well you need to explain why cause I don t get it! The US has the biggest maritime territory, that s how it is.

[betiko]

betiko, is an unemployment rate of 10.5% an impressive feat for one of the most developed countries of the world?

Since 1984, performance as measured by EU rate seems very unimpressive. It hits less than 8% only twice: once in 1984 briefly, and for 16 months from mid 2007 to late 2008.

http://www.google.com/publicdata/explor ... l=en&dl=en

It is impressive, as in impressively high, of course what s your point?

[BigBallinStalin]

betiko, is an unemployment rate of 10.5% an impressive feat for one of the most developed countries of the world?

Since 1984, performance as measured by EU rate seems very unimpressive. It hits less than 8% only twice: once in 1984 briefly, and for 16 months from mid 2007 to late 2008.

http://www.google.com/publicdata/explor ... l=en&dl=en

It is impressive, as in impressively high, of course what s your point?

You've been sticking to a theme about how great France is, but when you consider its 30+ trend of unemployment, it's pretty crappy for a developed country. It is inferior to Sweden, UK, Austria, Germany, US, etc. In terms of UE, France is doing slightly better than Italy, which economically should not be very proud of itself.

[betiko]

betiko, is an unemployment rate of 10.5% an impressive feat for one of the most developed countries of the world?

Since 1984, performance as measured by EU rate seems very unimpressive. It hits less than 8% only twice: once in 1984 briefly, and for 16 months from mid 2007 to late 2008.

http://www.google.com/publicdata/explor ... l=en&dl=en

It is impressive, as in impressively high, of course what s your point?

You've been sticking to a theme about how great France is, but when you consider its 30+ trend of unemployment, it's pretty crappy for a developed country. It is inferior to Sweden, UK, Austria, Germany, US, etc. In terms of UE, France is doing slightly better than Italy, which economically should not be very proud of itself.

I've been responding to someone telling me over and over how crappy france is... and he comes from FYR of macedonia!
If you've read my opinion about the actual french government in other threads you'd know that I generally disagree with their policies. For example the minimum wage is very high in france wereas there is no minimum wage in germany so comparing there unemployment rate is like apples and pears.
Nevertheless, is the unemployment rate the best and only index you have to compare economies? because if we look at the ballance of import/exports of the US, the % of people living under poverty level and without acces to public health care, the national debt ect I don't think the US should be very proud of itself either compared to other developed countries. This wasn't the point of this discussion though. We were talking about overall influence in international geopolitics. And I think I am pretty objective in my demonstration that France isn't worth jack shit as mr goran pretends.

[BigBallinStalin]

Excellent debriefing, betiko. Carry on, sir.

[mrswdk]

Even China is having a hard time. Growth has slowed to 7.8% a year, unemployment risen to 4.1% and national debt to 25% of GDP. And there are only a few trillion US dollars left in the cookie jar. Seems no country is living comfortably in this cold, hard world.

[GoranZ]

Gay in Russia... There is no such thing(I totally support Putin on this issue).

Yeah right, no gays in russia! Is that kind of behaviour something you're cool with? how would you feel if your kids turn out to be gay and get this sort of treatment because of their sexual orientation?

Gay is not an option, simple as that.

Syria You make an enemy, so you can attack it from the air.
Afghanistan... You guys are famous for bribing the Taliban so they wont attack the French forces.
Lybia... Again attacking from the air but after Americans finish the hard job.
Some African countries that use spears for fighting... I'm Impressed

So we go help countries were some attrocities are comitted. What exactly deos your country do to go help/save others? Do you think you have any sort of army that could solve conflicts in africa where they "use spears for fighting"? you guys couldn't even afford a plane to send troops there with chopsticks.

We participate in wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, maybe few others but I don't count that as doing something special...
But Macedonian army is not comparable with French... British is, and the British swim half of the globe, engage the Argentinians and recapture Falklands within 2 months.
And the most interesting part is that the Germans would have teach you guys German twice already if British, Russians and Americans let them.

[betiko]

Gay is not an option, simple as that.

yeah right, sexual/love attraction is something people get to chose! You guys still live in caves and are afraid that the sun might not rise the next day as well?
We're in 2014, wake up!

But Macedonian army is not comparable with French... British is, and the British swim half of the globe, engage the Argentinians and recapture Falklands within 2 months.
And the most interesting part is that the Germans would have teach you guys German twice already if British, Russians and Americans let them.

Of course it's not comparable to french army. Who said it was? You guys might be able to win against the swiss guards in the vatican city because they carry spears and I'm not even sure of it. Stop making a fool of yourself. (ps: unlike macedonians, british didn't have to swim to reach their enemies, they actually used boats, they have a budget for that).
Regarding the world war 2 is that all you got? As far as I know we're not the only ones who got defeated by the german army. You guys didn't even exist at that time, you were just Tito's bitches before now being Putin's bitches. Your country has no history and is nothing, get over it and quit barking like a chihuahua in front of a tiger.

Ps: about france bribing talibans, can you forward the information please? Because it seems like you are a bit confused like for other stuff. Italians were in charge of an area where they supposedly managed to control peace and suffer just 1 casualty total. What they had been doing was to bribe the taliban commanders for monthes. French army was in charge of taking over that sector. Those dick italians were like "yes evrythin fayn! Evrythin underr control!" And never said anything about what their secret services had been doing there to their own allies, which lead french forces to be held in a taliban ambush. Just don t post crap dude.

[GoranZ]

But Macedonian army is not comparable with French... British is, and the British swim half of the globe, engage the Argentinians and recapture Falklands within 2 months.
And the most interesting part is that the Germans would have teach you guys German twice already if British, Russians and Americans let them.

Of course it's not comparable to french army. Who said it was? You guys might be able to win against the swiss guards in the vatican city because they carry spears and I'm not even sure of it. Stop making a fool of yourself. (ps: unlike macedonians, british didn't have to swim to reach their enemies, they actually used boats, they have a budget for that).
Regarding the world war 2 is that all you got? As far as I know we're not the only ones who got defeated by the german army. You guys didn't even exist at that time, you were just Tito's bitches before now being Putin's bitches. Your country has no history and is nothing, get over it and quit barking like a chihuahua in front of a tiger.

In WW2 fighting Macedonia lost 100K men from 1.3 Mil population since the liberation of Yugoslavia started from my country.

Generally French army is not comparable to any army... For example America has Delta Force, British have SAS, Russians have Spetsnaz, IDK the name of Chinese elite unit, but they are all Chinese in it. On the other hand French elite unit is French Foreign Legion made up from anything except french It will turn that the strongest French ever are Asterix and Obelix when they are drunk from their powerful potion.

[betiko]

But Macedonian army is not comparable with French... British is, and the British swim half of the globe, engage the Argentinians and recapture Falklands within 2 months.
And the most interesting part is that the Germans would have teach you guys German twice already if British, Russians and Americans let them.

Of course it's not comparable to french army. Who said it was? You guys might be able to win against the swiss guards in the vatican city because they carry spears and I'm not even sure of it. Stop making a fool of yourself. (ps: unlike macedonians, british didn't have to swim to reach their enemies, they actually used boats, they have a budget for that).
Regarding the world war 2 is that all you got? As far as I know we're not the only ones who got defeated by the german army. You guys didn't even exist at that time, you were just Tito's bitches before now being Putin's bitches. Your country has no history and is nothing, get over it and quit barking like a chihuahua in front of a tiger.

In WW2 fighting Macedonia lost 100K men from 1.3 Mil population since the liberation of Yugoslavia started from my country.

Generally French army is not comparable to any army... For example America has Delta Force, British have SAS, Russians have Spetsnaz, IDK the name of Chinese elite unit, but they all Chinese in it. On the other hand French elite unit is French Foreign Legion made up from anything except french It will turn that the strongest French ever are Asterix and Obelix when they are drunk from their powerful potion.

the army (BFST 4 units), the navy (FORFUSCO 6 units) and the air force (BFS 3 units) all have their special elite force brigade/commandos. What is commonly used by our military force is the GIGN on our territory (elite gendarmes basically). The SA are our secret service elite trained assassins/saboteurs.
Secondly, you don't think the foreign legion is a great idea seriously? (by the way at least 20% of the foreign legion are french people before entering). Basically we get thugs from around the world, we erase their identity and give them some fake new french name and passport we have 100% control on all they own and what they are paid for about 15 years and we send them in first in conflict zones. Sounds a bit smarter than getting 10% of your population killed and a good way to get thugs out of the streets or prisons. I'd rather see these guys die first.
I just think it's too bad some people have the fascination you have for war, murder and domination. People like you make this world a bad place. National security will always be an issue, but if we didn't have all these idiots around the world like you claiming territories, imposing ideas,or religions, or sexual orientation, looking for centuries old revenge ect to their own people/neighbours the world would truely be a better place. Do you think your life has changed from sad to happy since your country became independent? Were all the death worth it in all the yougaslavian conflicts? You just need to watch radical football supporters from ex yougoslavian republics. Are you guys animals or something? can't you guys live without all this hatred? is it really the legacy you want to leave for your children? Get real man. Mankind is supposed to be a bit smarter and less compulsive/instinct oriented then primates. At least we should try. Your poster boy Putin is a cancer to russia. A racist murdering homophobic corrupt full of himself piece of turd.

[nietzsche]

I just think it's too bad some people have the fascination you have for war, murder and domination.

Says the conquerclub player.