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shickingbrits wrote:Sorry to ask you to prove that statement.
notyou2 wrote:Alright then. Let's discuss the holy Mormon underwear.
Anyone have any pics of holy Mormon underwear?
shickingbrits wrote:Sorry Doom, but I'm going to need you to prove that statement.
BigBallinStalin wrote:shickingbrits wrote:Sorry Doom, but I'm going to need you to prove that statement.
Face it. You got trolled. Don't go down this obvious route.
shickingbrits wrote:I'm assuming that this is a parody thread about me.
You would have to look at the governing principles of education. From the state's perspective, what does it mean to educate the masses?
It's been a while since I've done any research on this, so I will go from memory and link upon request.
The primary goal of education is to provide a platform upon which the government may govern. They say the pledge of allegiance was a way to sell more flags, but that is ridiculous. One of the primary roles of education is to provide the government with unquestionable moral authority. It attempts to create a norm and fear of deviating from the norm.
To be educated is to learn to sit still, do as you're told as you were told to do it. Creativity is only desirable in fixed amounts and towards fixed ends. What we have been seeing more recently in education is the unwashable stamp of condemnation. The prison pipeline where students who are caught with an untucked shirt are fined and face criminal charges is an extreme example, but their stamp in lesser cases is still more pervasive than ever.
Some of the founding ideas we have about education, which were embedded into Unesco, are deliberate attempts to create people who could only question within fixed parameters. To do so, it is necessary to literally teach people to be idiots, to be compliant but only along certain directed lines, to repeat and to resist alternate indoctrination.
While these are all valid concerns for a government to have about their future generation, it is not what most people imagine the word "learn" to mean. And as a person, not a government, it's complete bullshit. We are literally raising people to do nothing. We don't want them to do anything, especially be able to take care of themselves. Their sole function in society is to be there.
I spent years learning to do nothing. I remember the first chemistry paper I wrote at uni. We each did an experiment on the iron content of an antacid, and then wrote it up in a long ass report. We were never told what the report should look like, or anything. Just given a 2 minute briefing on it after the briefing on how to do the experiment and equations we would need and they said see you later.
My data was fine, but I used the wrong margin, well I used the right margin and then used a normal margin off it. In short, due to formatting, I got a D. So the content and experiment, which they gave me full marks for, wasn't worth very much.
As a student paying to learn, I don't think I got my money's worth. I only wrote one more chemistry paper, in the next term, and never took it again, and have never made any use of it. Chemistry had three midterms and a final, apart from the lab section. Every three weeks or so, we brought a cheat sheet and sat a multiple choice test. Those two terms of chemistry weren't cheap. I didn't take anything away, except two Bs.
How about the stuff I use in my daily job? No, not really. Being able to sit at a desk for extended periods helps. Otherwise, besides rather basic math skills and being able to read and write, I think given the chance most people would be able to figure out my job in about as much time as I did without spending 4 years and lots of money. They just wouldn't be given the chance.
But then I didn't get my education for my job, I got it for me. Does it make me feel smarter? No. Does it create more independent opportunity? Slightly, but mainly because of social norms.
When my son is 18, I would like him to be able to be able to take care of himself. By That I mean have his own place that he can take care of at zero cost, be able to take care of his other wants at low to zero cost and be able to use math, be literate and be social-able.
I have already bought land for him and will build his place with him as he grows. I have begun a food forest on it for him and will incorporate as self sufficient technology as is available when we build it.
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