Oneyed wrote:muy_thaiguy wrote:GoranZ wrote:muy_thaiguy wrote:If I may ask, how are the , who live in the Baltic countries, "broken on a daily basis"?
You know nothing about Russian's basic human rights in Baltic countries yet you portrait them as demons.
At first you need to know at least something about the other side before you start a conversation. That is if you want to have a conversation.
Chill man. All I did was ask a legitimate question trying to find out what rights the Baltic countries are supposed to be stepping. It was not a loaded question, nor was it meant to antagonize anyone. If all you can do is lash out and put words in my mouth (have never called Russians demons, nor do I ever make such generalizing comments, though I have called Putin psychotic, but that is from a different conversation, and his actions and words portray as much).
I asked a simple question hoping to see what rights, according to the Russians, are being trampled on, nothing more, nothing less. Merely wishing to see your side of this argument. But obviously, that's not going to happen, at least not from you.
I wrote about this before your asked. try to read all comments, not just stupid pictures from AndyDufresne.
Oneyed
You mean your one sentence about Latvia? And, no, I'm not going to defend them on the whole voting thing and such, but it's not just ethnic Russians that are not allowed to vote. That needed to be said, otherwise you make it look as if it is only Russians that are being persecuted, which is not exactly true.
Or do you mean this little bit here?
if you can speak about past, USSR liberated whole eastern and central europe, this is what you call "basicaly re-invaded". then USA, Great Britain invaded the western europe. or do you try to re-write history?
Which, is basically BS. The Russians conquered countries that were conquered just before them by the Nazis and subjugated nearly all of Eastern Europe for decades. Examples? The Western countries did not build the Berlin wall in Germany. The Western countries did not have gulags where veterans of WWII were sent to, never to be seen again. And yes, the US and UK did invade the beaches of Normandy, to drive out the occupying Nazi troops. And then turned the country back over to the rightful government and got France back to self-rule. Stalin, did not. Also, don't kid yourself. Stalin and Hitler made a mutual pact where both would invade and subjugate Poland, with the USSR to the East and the Nazis to the West. The only reason they did not stay like that is because Hitler got greedy and too aggressive.
Or this thing?
how can you tell this shit? look at your country where you have soldiers and how much countries you occupied. so at the first take your soldiers back (also hidden ones or agents).
do you know that Ukraine was part of Russia to 1954?
We occupy, yes, and then turn the country back over to the people that are from there. We have a large number of troops in South Korea because the US and South Korea are still, legally, at war with North Korea. And let's face it, North Korea is not exactly the most friendly of places.
As for Ukraine, how about this little tidbit?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor Not to mention that Ukraine also has it's own language and culture. And you wonder why so many former Soviet countries want to distance themselves as much as possible from Russia? And let's not forget Stalin's acts of wiping people out before WWII on the people of Russia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DekulakizationIn short, ethnic Russians are FAR from the only people in Lavia being screwed over. But you don't see other countries threatening to invade them.
, even when Europeans are basically telling them how to run their country? What kind of liberty is that?
