CAST YOUR VOTE! (Intelligent Design, pt 1)

[betiko]

Lol at the result of this poll so far. No need to add my 2 other cents in this mongoloid discussion.

[Phatscotty]

Let me ask this question. Who invented math? Everything obeys math. Evolution or creation. It doesn't matter. So explain where math came from please.

This concludes round 1 voting. Stay tuned for round 2!

[GoranZ]

Let me ask this question. Who invented math? Everything obeys math. Evolution or creation. It doesn't matter. So explain where math came from please.

This concludes round 1 voting. Stay tuned for round 2!

And what is the conclusion?

32% - Yes
6% - IDK/Maybe
13% - It's Unlikely
48% - No

Or we should interpret the voting as total loss of god lovers?
I think that was already known for almost 2 centuries, we dont need voting for that

[_sabotage_]

Is the universe expanding? It's certainly not a universal conclusion and this photo strongly suggests it's wrong.

Fungi were the early dominant life form. If we evolved, then we evolved from them. Fungi have external digestion, humans have internal digestion.

Jesus was a Mushroom according to longtime Dead Sea Scrolls scholar.

Is the image of God a mushroom?

[GoranZ]

Is the universe expanding? It's certainly not a universal conclusion and this photo strongly suggests it's wrong.

So you know if the universe is expanding or not? If you know enlighten us

Fungi were the early dominant life form. If we evolved, then we evolved from them. Fungi have external digestion, humans have internal digestion.

You interpret the theory of evolution as you see fit... It never says that we evolve from Fungi, it only says that we have common ancestor with them. Same applies with chimpanzees.
If you want to compare us... find our common ancestor and we can talk about similarities/differences

Jesus was a Mushroom according to longtime Dead Sea Scrolls scholar.

Is the image of God a mushroom?

It seems that you have a mushroom instead of brain... Do you see the image your God now? If you do, you are extremely dumb.

[_sabotage_]

Oh sorry, was looking for substance in your post. Will reply to it when I find it.

[mrswdk]

[warmonger1981]

How about this. What came first information or matter?

[tzor]

Is the universe expanding? It's certainly not a universal conclusion and this photo strongly suggests it's wrong.

Why does the photo suggest that it is wrong.

For that matter what does it really mean to say that the universe is expanding? This is an interesting question in that the actual science of "space" is exceptionally vague at best. Is there a "conservation of space?" Can space be created or destroyed? Does space itself move? How fast can space move?

Fungi were the early dominant life form. If we evolved, then we evolved from them. Fungi have external digestion, humans have internal digestion.

So many things wrong with this it's hard to begin. One might even call it argument from stupidity. The location of where you place your glands is a minor evolutionary trait. Fungi, aren't the fastest moving of organisms, if I recall correctly (HINT THEY DON'T MOVE AT ALL). Now internal digestion is generally more efficient than external because a lot of the nutrients can get away, but let's not get into an argument of who is better, because that has nothing whatsoever to do with evolution at that scale.

Now I can't speak for you, but I'm generally a Fun Guy, which I think is a part of my evolutionary heritage.

[tzor]

How about this. What came first information or matter?

That's a good one. Matter is information. Information is matter. It's sort of like the notion of particle / wave, where the answer is both depending on your point of view. Note that "energy" as we normally think of it, came later and the universe started out completely opaque.

Until God said, "let there be light" and suddenly BAM, the universe became transparent.

[_sabotage_]

Is the universe expanding? It's certainly not a universal conclusion and this photo strongly suggests it's wrong.

Why does the photo suggest that it is wrong.

For that matter what does it really mean to say that the universe is expanding? This is an interesting question in that the actual science of "space" is exceptionally vague at best. Is there a "conservation of space?" Can space be created or destroyed? Does space itself move? How fast can space move?

Fungi were the early dominant life form. If we evolved, then we evolved from them. Fungi have external digestion, humans have internal digestion.

So many things wrong with this it's hard to begin. One might even call it argument from stupidity. The location of where you place your glands is a minor evolutionary trait. Fungi, aren't the fastest moving of organisms, if I recall correctly (HINT THEY DON'T MOVE AT ALL). Now internal digestion is generally more efficient than external because a lot of the nutrients can get away, but let's not get into an argument of who is better, because that has nothing whatsoever to do with evolution at that scale.

Now I can't speak for you, but I'm generally a Fun Guy, which I think is a part of my evolutionary heritage.

The photo shows significant variations in redshift in a object which cannot be separated.

Fungi actually move quite extensively. Green slime placed in a mock-up map of the Tokyo subway with nutrient sources acting as population concentrations connected the sources with 99.99% efficiency in under 24 hours. Mycelium found in one cubic inch of substrate can cover more than 8 miles. The mycelia networks are able to transport nutrients over long distances, create complex enzymes to match available nutrients and start a chain of life by what enzymes it uses.

Fungi have been recorded from over 850 m years ago. They proceeded to create soil and in doing so make habitat for other life. In doing so, the helped create some of our DNA.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... ution.html

[warmonger1981]

Information must have a designer. Matter cannot create information. That's basically saying a rock came up with the formula to create itself. Information must have come first to give that rock a blueprint for creation.

Everything is held together by a frequency. When God spoke that was actually frequency. It's just that the ancients who were uneducated were unable to understand the concept. They understood sound as its physically viable.

[notyou2]

How about this. What came first information or matter?

That's a good one. Matter is information. Information is matter. It's sort of like the notion of particle / wave, where the answer is both depending on your point of view. Note that "energy" as we normally think of it, came later and the universe started out completely opaque.

Until God said, "let there be light" and suddenly BAM, the universe became transparent.

Ohhh.....false information is anti-matter.

[GoranZ]

You god worshipers are been beaten for almost 2 centuries, seems you want more
I presume you want to prove that you can handle more... But no worries there is more, every day.

[tzor]

Information must have a designer. Matter cannot create information. That's basically saying a rock came up with the formula to create itself. Information must have come first to give that rock a blueprint for creation.

This is the perfect example of misplaced intelligence. Information in and of itself does not require intelligence. The interpretation of information requires intelligence. A given particle has with it a lot of information, rest mass, spin, angular momentum, charge, and so on and so forth.

Water, for example, does not need a "blueprint" as to how to become ice. Water simply becomes ice. Should the physics and chemistry be different water would become what the physics and chemistry would tell it to become. It's not like water and lava use different textbooks for their behaviors.

[tzor]

Ohhh.....false information is anti-matter.

Anti mater contains information. Photons contain information. Who knows, even space itself may contain information.

[warmonger1981]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... GDrxhJuJOA

Makes it real simple.


Well let me ask this question. Are you basically saying a computer with information inside of it needed no intelligence to build it?

As far as water. Turning it into ice is nothing more than the same information being interpreted differently.

[notyou2]

Ohhh.....false information is anti-matter.

Anti mater contains information. Photons contain information. Who knows, even space itself may contain information.

I never said anything about anti-matter containing information. You said "matter is information". Anti-matter is the polar opposite of matter, therefore, false information is anti-matter. Hopefully this proves the demise of Fox News.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Information must have a designer. Matter cannot create information. That's basically saying a rock came up with the formula to create itself. Information must have come first to give that rock a blueprint for creation.

Everything is held together by a frequency. When God spoke that was actually frequency. It's just that the ancients who were uneducated were unable to understand the concept. They understood sound as its physically viable.

[warmonger1981]

I wake up everyday thinking I'm the shit.

[notyou2]

If god created man in his image, why do we need food? Air? Eye glasses? Dentists?

God wouldn't need any of these things.

[mrswdk]

If god created man in his image, why do we need food? Air? Eye glasses? Dentists?

God wouldn't need any of these things.

Maybe God's a creaky man who pisses himself in his sleep.

[tzor]

Anti-matter is the polar opposite of matter, therefore, false information is anti-matter.

Anti-matter is not the polar opposite of matter. (And whose pole are you using anyway?) An anti-particle combines with a particle to produce a photon.

The set of all things consists of all things true and all things false. False information does not combine with information to produce ... no idea.

Note to self: don't even try to get started on super-symmetric particle theory.

[tzor]

Well let me ask this question. Are you basically saying a computer with information inside of it needed no intelligence to build it?

You are confusing many things. A computer is a device to process information. Now you have a computer with information inside it. How did the information get inside the computer? What is the result of the computer's process? Who or what interprets the computer's response?

So clearly there is a lot of intelligence involved here, but where is the intelligence? Could that intelligence be merely in the mind of the person seeing the response? This may seem odd but the earliest calculators were in fact astronomical ones. They simply measured the locations of the sun and told the time of day. Just some random stick in the ground. No intelligence whatsoever to build.

[notyou2]

Anti-matter is the polar opposite of matter, therefore, false information is anti-matter.

Anti-matter is not the polar opposite of matter. (And whose pole are you using anyway?) An anti-particle combines with a particle to produce a photon.

The set of all things consists of all things true and all things false. False information does not combine with information to produce ... no idea.

Note to self: don't even try to get started on super-symmetric particle theory.

Stable anti matter does not exist. Matter does exist. Therefore they are polar opposites.

Nice try Einstein. Go back to your anti science beliefs.