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Re: Baltimore

Postby muy_thaiguy on Wed Apr 29, 2015 2:13 am

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As for the topic, rioting never ends well for anyone. Though the one video of the mother coming up to her son and smacking him for being all kinds of stupid was good. Showed she cared enough about him to come down there and teach him what an idiot he was.
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Re: Baltimore

Postby ConfederateSS on Wed Apr 29, 2015 2:34 am

------Tonky... You should know, in the west side of Detroit yesterday. The Detroit Police were serving a warrant. Blew the guy away. They said he came at us with a hammer. Maybe it was Thor's hammer. The people were crying, Jimmy never got a chance to have a second chance. :lol: Although mostly I'd say blow them away. But come on, a hammer. The Detroit media was keeping it on the down low. I think the cop and the 19 year old person were both the same color. But still. A hammer. I guess it has been over shadowed by Baltimore and the fact the Red Wings lost to T.Bay. I can still see the look on Huel Perkins face on fox 2 news. ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion). ;)
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Re: Baltimore

Postby nietzsche on Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:12 am

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mrswdk wrote:Yeah, like Duk said, I don't get what the fuss is about. Guy gets arrested and is then roughed up a bit. Big deal.

There's any easy way to avoid this sort of thing happening: don't cause trouble and get yourself arrested.


Replace some guy with a person who is of value to you (family member, friend, co-worker) and then imagine they die due to poor response after they were apprehended (for a valid reason or not).


The simple solution is not to get picked up by the police in the first place. If you don't have the connections, social standing or James Bond level charisma necessary to guarantee pleasant treatment at the hands of a bunch of jacked up guys with weapons, then don't piss them off. It's not rocket science.

The question here is whether or not he was picked up for bogus reasons.


while this is realistic, shouldn't be that way.

Shouldn't alienate more people who already feel forgotten by the system. Cops should be respectful to everyone, careful, but respectful.
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Re: Baltimore

Postby betiko on Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:19 am

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mrswdk wrote:Yeah, like Duk said, I don't get what the fuss is about. Guy gets arrested and is then roughed up a bit. Big deal.

There's any easy way to avoid this sort of thing happening: don't cause trouble and get yourself arrested.

That's not what I said.

What I said was, the problem exists in every country. I didn't say it's not a problem. I do think people wringing their hands and pretending this is an American problem are delusional.

Here's just a short list of the places I've personally witnessed police beating the shit out of an unresisting suspect or otherwise abusing their powers:
Warsaw, Poland
Praha, Czechoslovakia
Essen, Germany
Nice, France
Rome, Italy
Toronto, Canada
St. Catharines, Canada
Buffalo, US
Washington, US
Anaheim, US
Puerto Barrios, Guatemala
+ some place in Mexico I don't remember the name of.

That's just the ones I witnessed personally. Any day of the week I could go online and find an incident somewhere in the world, and on a long enough timeline there's probably been an incident in every town on the planet.

.. and that's just the violent incidents. That's not counting nonviolent abuses of official power, shakedowns for bribes, etc.



Do you really not think there is a problem of paranoia of american police forces towards black people?
Do you really think the problem is as important in any other civilized country? The fact is that the US has third world country problems with their stupid gun laws. Compare the situation with mexico or columbia or south africa if you want... But the deaths provoked by paranoid armed cops In the US is a disgrace, uncomparable with anything in europe. And it s a shame to see so many people dodging the problem.

http://gawker.com/unarmed-people-of-col ... 1666672349


I don t know enough of this baltimore case... But the last gunned black guy I saw, the guy from north carolina that got arrested because one of his tail lights got broken.... Ran away because he was paniquing and just got shot down in the middle of a park during the day... What a bunch of third world piece of shit cops you have seriously.
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Re: Baltimore

Postby tzor on Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:35 am

notyou2 wrote:What would Republican Jesus say and do.


Hey, Jesus was not A REPUBLICAN. :twisted:

I think his comment would have been. "How come you are not decimating the people? Isn't that standard Roman policy?"

Yes, Rome back then would make Republicans now look WEAK.
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Re: Baltimore

Postby ConfederateSS on Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:58 am

-----Rome was a Republic. They all where republicans. Jesus was in the Empire. Not by choice ,but in the Empire none the less. Making Jesus a real true original republican. Not the poor American version. :lol: ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion).
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Re: Baltimore

Postby Dukasaur on Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:20 am

ConfederateSS wrote:-----Rome was a Republic. They all where republicans. Jesus was in the Empire. Not by choice ,but in the Empire none the less. Making Jesus a real true original republican. Not the poor American version. :lol: ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion).

Actually, the Roman Republic had ended by the time of Jesus, and Empire, a.k.a. Increasingly Arbitrary Dictatorship, was well under way.

The official end of the Republic was 27 B.C. when Octavian accepted the title Augustus and became unquestioned absolute ruler. For all intents and purposes, though, the rule of law was dead by 82 B.C., and from 82 to 27 B.C., Rome was a republic in name only.
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Re: Baltimore

Postby tzor on Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:31 pm

ConfederateSS wrote:-----Rome was a Republic. They all where republicans.


NOTE: Republicans are not just any person in a Republic.
NOTE: The Roman Republic ended in 27 BC. In AD 30 Rome was an "Empire" not a "Republic."

ConfederateSS wrote:Jesus was in the Empire. Not by choice ,but in the Empire none the less.


Why does that matter? You made the claim he was a "Republican." The fact is that we have no "political" statements from Jesus whatsoever. His "kingdom" was not of this world and as a result he never had political commentary. Even his statement to Pilate "You would not have any authority whatsoever unless it was given to you from above," is exceptionally vague.

In fact, the only person in the new testament making a political claim is Paul, who uses his Roman Citizenship at one point.

Jesus does make some statements on authority, mostly on religious authority, to listen to what they teach not to follow what they do.
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Re: Baltimore

Postby betiko on Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:34 pm

tzor wrote:
ConfederateSS wrote:-----Rome was a Republic. They all where republicans.


NOTE: Republicans are not just any person in a Republic.
NOTE: The Roman Republic ended in 27 BC. In AD 30 Rome was an "Empire" not a "Republic."

ConfederateSS wrote:Jesus was in the Empire. Not by choice ,but in the Empire none the less.


Why does that matter? You made the claim he was a "Republican." The fact is that we have no "political" statements from Jesus whatsoever. His "kingdom" was not of this world and as a result he never had political commentary. Even his statement to Pilate "You would not have any authority whatsoever unless it was given to you from above," is exceptionally vague.

In fact, the only person in the new testament making a political claim is Paul, who uses his Roman Citizenship at one point.

Jesus does make some statements on authority, mostly on religious authority, to listen to what they teach not to follow what they do.


jesus definitively was a socialist, Karl Marx was his son.
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Re: Baltimore

Postby Serbia on Wed Apr 29, 2015 1:00 pm

ConfederateSS wrote:------Tonky... You should know, in the west side of Detroit yesterday. The Detroit Police were serving a warrant. Blew the guy away. They said he came at us with a hammer. Maybe it was Thor's hammer. The people were crying, Jimmy never got a chance to have a second chance. :lol: Although mostly I'd say blow them away. But come on, a hammer. The Detroit media was keeping it on the down low. I think the cop and the 19 year old person were both the same color. But still. A hammer. I guess it has been over shadowed by Baltimore and the fact the Red Wings lost to T.Bay. I can still see the look on Huel Perkins face on fox 2 news. ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion). ;)


I had not heard about this story until I read your post. Here's the story as reported at myfoxdetroit.com I'm working on the west side of Detroit, so here's hoping there are no riots near here. In fact, I'm literally about a mile away from where this happened.

Bollocks.
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Re: Baltimore

Postby ConfederateSS on Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:26 pm

-----First I'm a Roman Catholic Republican..Dumb asses. Second..Thanks Serbia. I post about someone getting shot in Detroit by police. Not one of the wise ones responded. Then I post about Jesus. Bamm out comes the peanut gallery. When you put up something on the money. People are talking about the price of tea in China. ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion).--By the way. Even though Rome had an Emperor.During the Time of Jesus. The Senate was never disbanded. They even picked some of the Emperors. In fact The Senate lasted till the fall of Rome. That,and I was joking about Jesus being a republican. Oh wise ones..Love those old Roman movies.. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Baltimore

Postby tzor on Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:48 pm

ConfederateSS wrote:-----First I'm a Roman Catholic Republican..


My condolences then. :twisted:

I'm also a Roman Catholic Republican.

(Now as Mike Church would ask, "are we talking big 'R' or little 'r' republican?" Because I'm actually both.)

So are you really surprised when another Roman Catholic Republican started picking on what is normally a Christian Fundamentalist Republican expression?

For your penance, you should purchase and read Christopher Ferrara's "Liberty, the God that failed."
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Re: Baltimore

Postby muy_thaiguy on Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:05 pm

tzor wrote:
ConfederateSS wrote:-----First I'm a Roman Catholic Republican..


My condolences then. :twisted:

I'm also a Roman Catholic Republican.

(Now as Mike Church would ask, "are we talking big 'R' or little 'r' republican?" Because I'm actually both.)

So are you really surprised when another Roman Catholic Republican started picking on what is normally a Christian Fundamentalist Republican expression?

For your penance, you should purchase and read Christopher Ferrara's "Liberty, the God that failed."

Technically, I am too. Though I have grown rather disillusioned by the Republican Party and now identify more with Libertarian/Independent views. So, registered as a Republican (while also being Roman Catholic), but finding myself more and more disgusted by those that run for office and make it through to the general elections.
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Re: Baltimore

Postby warmonger1981 on Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:28 pm

Roman Catholicism is based on sun worship. The obelisk in St.Peters Square is actually a huge sundial. Its a Hermetic Temple of the Sun. Christianity is basically watered down Mystery Schools.
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Re: Baltimore

Postby khazalid on Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:23 am

Serbia wrote:
ConfederateSS wrote:------Tonky... You should know, in the west side of Detroit yesterday. The Detroit Police were serving a warrant. Blew the guy away. They said he came at us with a hammer. Maybe it was Thor's hammer. The people were crying, Jimmy never got a chance to have a second chance. :lol: Although mostly I'd say blow them away. But come on, a hammer. The Detroit media was keeping it on the down low. I think the cop and the 19 year old person were both the same color. But still. A hammer. I guess it has been over shadowed by Baltimore and the fact the Red Wings lost to T.Bay. I can still see the look on Huel Perkins face on fox 2 news. ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion). ;)


I had not heard about this story until I read your post. Here's the story as reported at myfoxdetroit.com I'm working on the west side of Detroit, so here's hoping there are no riots near here. In fact, I'm literally about a mile away from where this happened.

Bollocks.


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Re: Baltimore

Postby macbone on Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:38 am

Unicorns, Jesus was a Republican, authority figures running amok - it's like it's a Five Iron Frenzy album in here.
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Re: Baltimore

Postby ConfederateSS on Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:42 am

-----Don't worry fellow Detroiters. Thanks to Mayor Young the city was turned into a wasteland. Young's legacy is finally helping the city for once. Nothing but empty field to empty field throughout the city. There is nothing left for rioters. I remember in 1984 when the Tigers won it all and Devil's night. The Russian media was in town. They showed Detroit burning block after block. Detroit looked liked London in 1940 during the blitz. The southwest is all Latin now, so I'm safe. I remember when I first voted. The place had 5 voting books 6 inches thick with names of voters. The last Pres. Election in 2012. There was a folder with two pieces of paper in it. I voted a 6pm , I was voter #7 that day. So sad. :( ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion).
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Re: Baltimore

Postby Serbia on Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:55 am

ConfederateSS wrote:-----Don't worry fellow Detroiters. Thanks to Mayor Young the city was turned into a wasteland. Young's legacy is finally helping the city for once. Nothing but empty field to empty field throughout the city. There is nothing left for rioters. I remember in 1984 when the Tigers won it all and Devil's night. The Russian media was in town. They showed Detroit burning block after block. Detroit looked liked London in 1940 during the blitz. The southwest is all Latin now, so I'm safe. I remember when I first voted. The place had 5 voting books 6 inches thick with names of voters. The last Pres. Election in 2012. There was a folder with two pieces of paper in it. I voted a 6pm , I was voter #7 that day. So sad. :( ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion).


You're a Confederate living in Detroit?

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DONE.

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Re: Baltimore

Postby waauw on Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:59 am

Serbia wrote:
ConfederateSS wrote:-----Don't worry fellow Detroiters. Thanks to Mayor Young the city was turned into a wasteland. Young's legacy is finally helping the city for once. Nothing but empty field to empty field throughout the city. There is nothing left for rioters. I remember in 1984 when the Tigers won it all and Devil's night. The Russian media was in town. They showed Detroit burning block after block. Detroit looked liked London in 1940 during the blitz. The southwest is all Latin now, so I'm safe. I remember when I first voted. The place had 5 voting books 6 inches thick with names of voters. The last Pres. Election in 2012. There was a folder with two pieces of paper in it. I voted a 6pm , I was voter #7 that day. So sad. :( ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion).


You're a Confederate living in Detroit?


He's a black democratic confederate in detroit, who watches tennis rather than nascar, and doesn't screw with his nieces
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Re: Baltimore

Postby / on Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:52 am

Horrible. How far must society fall into the terrorist mindset before the people learn peace?
Embrace a culture of violence, and one receives no compassion in return. The civilians have chanted for anarchy over every age, promoting counterculture such as thug life, punk rock, and hippie-ism, they spit, taunt, and belittle the police. The law in turn militarized, this became a war; with no one worth protecting, there are only enemies to face.

Now we have this fittingly "black and white" world without compromise or understanding, where we see no humans gazing back from the other side, no faith in order and justice to fall back on. In its place there are fools and opportunists who meet blood with blood, and cant even aim their weapons at those who mean harm; just police waiting for someone to slip up so they can let loose their vengeance, and rioters who would rather see innocents hurt or their own pockets lined with loot than to see true justice be done by the system we require, such as a strong internal affairs, court system, and department of justice.

If we all showed a bit of kindness, we might see there are no sides to be drawn, just individual humans, none of whom are above the law.
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Re: Baltimore

Postby warmonger1981 on Thu Apr 30, 2015 7:24 am

There was recently a protest in Minneapolis by the local Black Lives Matter. When they began to pray they asked all non-blacks to leave. Talk about ignorant racist assholes. No wonder they have problems. When people come to help and pray with them, they say leave. So I say fuckem.
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Re: Baltimore

Postby tzor on Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:09 am

warmonger1981 wrote:Roman Catholicism is based on sun worship.


True but strange fact, there is an old testament passage that ties the Messiah to the Sun. Malachi 4

"For behold, the day is coming, burning like a furnace; and all the arrogant and every evildoer will be chaff; and the day that is coming will set them ablaze," says the LORD of hosts, "so that it will leave them neither root nor branch. But for you who fear My name, the sun of righteousness will rise with healing in its wings; and you will go forth and skip about like calves from the stall. You will tread down the wicked, for they will be ashes under the soles of your feet on the day which I am preparing," says the LORD of hosts.…


My College Parish was named "Christ, Sun of Justice" for this very reason. Ironically, this is one of the most commonly skipped passages in the Easter Vigil Service (since there are a plethora of passages that are used in the full service and it's long enough even with the reduced set of readings).

But it is a fact that all of the altars of the early church was arranged to that the Priest would face east towards the rising sun. There is one exception, which was St. Peter's Basilica which when the priest faced east he faced towards the people. Caused a lot of fun and confusion back at Vatican II which caused the priest to change orientation towards the people. Modern churches are not built with any east/west orientation. The church I attend is oriented north / south.
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Re: Baltimore

Postby GoranZ on Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:27 am

GTA Special Baltimore Edition and Call of Duty Special Baltimore Edition... Next two most selling games :lol:

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Re: Baltimore

Postby ConfederateSS on Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:41 am

------Not Detroit..Southwest Detroit. I told you back in August on Ray Bradbury's birthday. As I told Qwert in my first post. Along with others in game chat. I just like the armies of THE GREY/GRAY. Lee,Rommel,Stonewall,Von Manstein. Their strategies are taught worldwide. Should their strategies be forgotten. I could careless about their countries politics. That and THE SOUTH was America's last dash of Honor. That is what "GONE WITH THE WIND" is all about..not racism. GLORY AND HONOR.... :D ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion). P.S. It should always be in our faces. For the people who would like to ban things. Wash things under the rug. Never talk about say Hitler(who died today 70 years ago). Or America's past. It's when we finally forget,thanks to the politically correct police.Because you might offend someone. Another Hitler will rise and bite us in the ass. Will have to go through it all over again. :) :) :)
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Re: Baltimore

Postby AndyDufresne on Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:30 pm

ConfederateSS wrote:------Not Detroit..Southwest Detroit. I told you back in August on Ray Bradbury's birthday. As I told Qwert in my first post. Along with others in game chat. I just like the armies of THE GREY/GRAY. Lee,Rommel,Stonewall,Von Manstein. Their strategies are taught worldwide. Should their strategies be forgotten. I could careless about their countries politics. That and THE SOUTH was America's last dash of Honor. That is what "GONE WITH THE WIND" is all about..not racism. GLORY AND HONOR.... :D ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion). P.S. It should always be in our faces. For the people who would like to ban things. Wash things under the rug. Never talk about say Hitler(who died today 70 years ago). Or America's past. It's when we finally forget,thanks to the politically correct police.Because you might offend someone. Another Hitler will rise and bite us in the ass. Will have to go through it all over again. :) :) :)


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