President Erdogan of Turkey - INVADE JERUSALEM

[saxitoxin]

My favorite Israeli band is DAM, which is a hip hop group of Arab "Israelis" and does bilingual (Arabic/Hebrew) songs in support of the armed overthrow of the Israeli apartheid government.



I was born here, my grandparents too
You will not sever me from my roots
Even if I believed in this phony regime
You’d forbid me a porch to proclaim it from

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It's a catchy song.

Do you wish the Jews would leave so you could build a house there Saxi and enjoy a home?

There is a nice young guy at work his family is from Lebanon, he was born here. He talks about home all the time. "Back home there is..." It seems pretty weird to me.

[saxitoxin]

Do you wish the Jews would leave so you could build a house there Saxi and enjoy a home?

No, Jews, Witch Doctors, Astrologers, Palm Readers, Star Trek LARPers, people who keep rabbit foot keychains, should all be welcome.

The government of Israel specifically, however, needs to pay their debts, namely, the $200-$400 billion they owe; that the entire world, including every American president (after, or shortly before, leaving office) - even George Bush - has agreed they owe.


And if the GoI don't pay their debts then they must continue to be subject to eviction efforts, just like any crazy deadbeat in any town anywhere in the world. Some bizarre cult's prophecy doesn't trump the maxims of real estate law. I can't stop making mortgage payments by telling the bank that voices in my head told me I have a right to the house.

[tzor]

No, Jews, Witch Doctors, Astrologers, Palm Readers, Star Trek LARPers, people who keep rabbit foot keychains, should all be welcome.

Then why are you supporting a Palestinian organization that generally kills most of the people on your list within the currently held territory?

NO really is THIS ever held in the West Bank or the Gaza Strip as it is in the Tel Aviv Eshkol Pais during the Sukkot holiday in September–October.

[saxitoxin]

No, Jews, Witch Doctors, Astrologers, Palm Readers, Star Trek LARPers, people who keep rabbit foot keychains, should all be welcome.

Then why are you supporting a Palestinian organization that generally kills most of the people on your list within the currently held territory?

Do you have any examples of Wiccans or Star Trek LARPers being "killed" by the Palestinian National Police?

I thought not. Run along now and go back to gobbling up your white supremacist and End Times hate blogs and being fooled by con-men who were debunked 3 years ago, you crazy racist loon. Just like you were in your OP:

Let's cut to the important parts of his statement.



Jerusalem belongs to the Muslims, not to the Jews… Jerusalem our home and our Jerusalem



No. I hate to defend Erdogan, but he never said "Jerusalem belongs to the Muslims, not to the Jews."

The claim originated on the personal blog of Walid Shoebat, who is a well known con-man. (A few years ago Shoebat ran a con on gullible Evangelical Christians - he claimed he was an ex PLO insurgent and a Muslim who converted to Christianity. That was Christmas in July for looney-tune Evangelicals and they threw a bunch of cash at him. He was later investigated for fraud after it turned out his charity didn't exist, he was using all the money on himself, and he had never been affiliated with the PLO. It's actually a rather ingenious scam targeting a very gullible sector of the population and I've often thought of running it myself and then donating the money to ANERA, St John of Jerusalem, or some other charity they'd find infuriating.)

Tzor - I want to try to put this as gently as possible, but you should probably work on acquiring some some basic critical thinking skills. It seems this isn't the first time you've been duped by a very well-known fraud and much of your understanding of the world around you appears to be based on the assorted cons and hijinx you've fallen for ... out of curiosity, are you in correspondence with any members of the Nigerian royal family?

[DoomYoshi]

No, Jews, Witch Doctors, Astrologers, Palm Readers, Star Trek LARPers, people who keep rabbit foot keychains, should all be welcome.

Then why are you supporting a Palestinian organization that generally kills most of the people on your list within the currently held territory?

Do you have any examples of Wiccans or Star Trek LARPers being "killed" by the Palestinian National Police?

I thought not. Run along now and go back to gobbling up your white supremacist and End Times hate blogs and being fooled by con-men who were debunked 3 years ago, you crazy racist loon. Just like you were in your OP:

Let's cut to the important parts of his statement.



Jerusalem belongs to the Muslims, not to the Jews… Jerusalem our home and our Jerusalem



No. I hate to defend Erdogan, but he never said "Jerusalem belongs to the Muslims, not to the Jews."

The claim originated on the personal blog of Walid Shoebat, who is a well known con-man. (A few years ago Shoebat ran a con on gullible Evangelical Christians - he claimed he was an ex PLO insurgent and a Muslim who converted to Christianity. That was Christmas in July for looney-tune Evangelicals and they threw a bunch of cash at him. He was later investigated for fraud after it turned out his charity didn't exist, he was using all the money on himself, and he had never been affiliated with the PLO. It's actually a rather ingenious scam targeting a very gullible sector of the population and I've often thought of running it myself and then donating the money to ANERA, St John of Jerusalem, or some other charity they'd find infuriating.)

Tzor - I want to try to put this as gently as possible, but you should probably work on acquiring some some basic critical thinking skills. It seems this isn't the first time you've been duped by a very well-known fraud and much of your understanding of the world around you appears to be based on the assorted cons and hijinx you've fallen for ... out of curiosity, are you in correspondence with any members of the Nigerian royal family?

Does playing Artemis count as Star Trek LARPing?

[tzor]

Do you have any examples of Wiccans or Star Trek LARPers being "killed" by the Palestinian National Police?

Well let's look into the plethora of killings by ... by the way did you know that the Gaza Strip is being run by Hamas not the The Palestinian Civil Police Force ... a branch of the Palestinian National Authority, but do please use such wonderful misdirection, my little dog over here pulls the curtain to reveal your true deceitful nature.

Hamas Killed 160 Palestinian Children to Build Tunnels

REPORT: HAMAS EXECUTED 20 PALESTINIAN ANTI-WAR PROTESTORS IN GAZA

Gazans Speak Out: Hamas War Crimes

"If Hamas does not like you for any reason all they have to do now is say you are a Mossad agent and kill you." — A., a Fatah member in Gaza.

[jay_a2j]

Keep dodging and ducking, tzor! Here, again, in all its glory, is from Tzor's OP that he is desperately trying not to revisit as his face gets redder and redder. Will tzor ever address the most recent White Supremacist whisper campaign he's been posting to Conquer Club? Tzor Watch Day 3.

What is your problem? Is it so important that tzor may have used an inaccurate statement about Erdogan? How about THIS one (you can look it up too) Ergodan has given the US 100 million dollars to build a MEGA-MOSQUE in Maryland. So many people are saying, "Obama is the Anti-Christ" well, they might want to take a closer look at Erdogan. (Mind you, all this information will only be seen as useful to believers of Biblical prophesy) Have a good day.

[notyou2]

THE END IS NIGH

REPENT

[saxitoxin]

Do you have any examples of Wiccans or Star Trek LARPers being "killed" by the Palestinian National Police?

Well let's look into the plethora of killings by ...

So no.

[saxitoxin]

Keep dodging and ducking, tzor! Here, again, in all its glory, is from Tzor's OP that he is desperately trying not to revisit as his face gets redder and redder. Will tzor ever address the most recent White Supremacist whisper campaign he's been posting to Conquer Club? Tzor Watch Day 3.

What is your problem? Is it so important that tzor may have used an inaccurate statement about Erdogan?

It's not an "inaccurate statement." It was an outright lie, a fabrication, a fiction. And tzor fell for it hook, line and sinker.

And it's not the first time he's been duped by something that was so obviously false anyone with a high school diploma should have seen it. He finds these dubious statements on white supremacist blogs and then brings this crap over to Conquer Club, helping to spread this paranoid, racist agenda. It might be he's an itinerant racist, but I suspect it's more a case of him being very, very, unintelligent and simply part of the easily duped base on which these fly-by-night hate blogs he reads depend to generate traffic.

Instead of acknowledging and apologizing the fact he was duped and fooled yet again by a very well-known con-man, tzor has started flailing his arms around like an angry toddler.

The funniest part, as I pointed out earlier, is that tzor's own organization - the Knights of Columbus - was a century ago subject to a paranoid hate campaign by nutters and loons afraid the Catholics were secretly plotting to undermine America at the behest of the Vatican. It's the exact same type of campaign tzor is cheerleading now. It's a fascinating case of the abused becoming the abuser.

How about THIS one (you can look it up too) Ergodan has given the US 100 million dollars to build a MEGA-MOSQUE in Maryland.

Lord sakes alive child!

[saxitoxin]

How about THIS one (you can look it up too) Ergodan has given the US 100 million dollars to build a MEGA-MOSQUE in Maryland.

Was it just me or was this the first thing that came to anyone else's mind reading this gem from Jay?

[tzor]

It's not an "inaccurate statement." It was an outright lie, a fabrication, a fiction. And tzor fell for it hook, line and sinker.=

Says who, YOU? The fact that you can throw the credibility of the source as dubious does not PROVE the statement is fiction. You seem to have this fixation (or is it a fetish) on this point. It's kind of sad really. You seem to be fixated on hatred towards Israel. It flows in your veins. The dark side is strong in you. But your force lightning is crap and I'm in a Faraday cage anyway so have fun.

[notyou2]

http://walid-shoebat.blogspot.ca/

[saxitoxin]

http://walid-shoebat.blogspot.ca/

I like how it took tzor being called out 6 times to finally humiliate him into replying and, when he did, it was to double-down on his claim about the the Nigerian prince who's promised to loan him money.

[GabonX]

This seems like a good thread to post videos of my favorite Israeli band:

Mine is Monotonix.

I like The Ethnix.

[saxitoxin]

Another great musician from Israel is the legendary Hebrew saxophone virtuoso Gilad Atzmom who renounced his Israeli citizenship after theorizing that "Israeli barbarity is far beyond even ordinary cruelty." Here he is playing his hit Gaza, My Love in London.



Most international-caliber musicians from Israel, like Atzmom, flee the country due to the stifling repression in place that disables the creative process. This is why Israel is totally bereft of any indigenous arts and culture and has all the flavor and personality of an empty cardboard box. Other nations are known for a form of music, dance, cuisine, or art. But not Israel. It's a bunch of people pretending to be a nation, which is why they keep whining "do you recognize our right to exist?!"

It's like a 3-legged pig thinking that, if he can get all the horses in the stables next door to declare he's a beautiful stallion, he will be a beautiful stallion.

[2dimes]

Or did he have the same problem as artists here?

Most international-caliber musicians from Israel Canada, like Atzmom Justin Bieber, flee the country due to the stifling repression in place lack of mega corporations looking to make record profits off them via Amercan consumers, that disables the creative process profits. This is why Israel Canada seems totally bereft of any indigenous arts and culture and has all the flavor and personality of an empty cardboard box. Other nations are known for a form of music, dance, cuisine, or art. But not Israel Canada.

[GabonX]

Most international-caliber musicians from Israel, like Atzmom, flee the country due to the stifling repression in place that disables the creative process.

DJ Noy Alooshe is doing all right with his songs and mashups.



Alooshe became a star overnight and has more work than he knows what to do with after he released Zenga Zenga on YouTube, mocking the late Muammar Qaddafi before his downfall. Notably the song became a smash hit throughout the Arab world before they realized an Israeli put it together ...
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/28/world ... .html?_r=0

This one's for you Saxi -



Of course, a lot of his work consists of in house Israeli political spoofs. Alooshe is no fan of the current administration in Israel and has made a number of videos that make fun of Netenyahu, which exposes whatever you were saying about repressive Israeli policies stifling creativity as nonsense. I won't post them here because unlike Alooshe I think Bibi is doing a good job, taking reasonable and necessary actions to protect his people, but I respect Alooshe's right to disagree.

One of the things that make nations like America and Israel great is the freedom to express our differences.

[saxitoxin]

DJ Noy Alooshe

Your response to "most international-caliber musicians from Israel, like Atzmom, flee the country due to the stifling repression in place that disables the creative process" is to dig-up a guy who has a lot of views on his YouTube videos? LOL.

One of the things that makes nations like America and Israel great is the freedom to express our differences.

The decision by the Israeli Armed Forces to imprison Shachar Berrin, a 19-year old Israeli soldier who criticized the Israeli government and army's practices based on his personal experience, is facing growing opposition.

Anyway, Israel is not a nation. It's a group of people living in roughly the same place who are throwing a tantrum and screaming for everyone to call them a nation. It's a three-legged pig asking the beautiful stallions to call it a beautiful stallion, also.

"Come on Brazil, Germany, Japan, Italy, Britain, Morocco, India, Russia, Peru, Ethiopia, Denmark - let's race to the top of the hill!"


*snort* "Hey it's me Israel, let me come too. I'm a horse. I paid everyone to agree I was. I'll show you the receipt." *snort*

[GabonX]

Active duty soldiers aren't allowed to take political stances in the US either, or any functioning army for that matter. We'll see what happens with him, but a week detention is hardly unheard of in Western countries for speaking against your chain of command.

Let's not kid ourselves, if he were a Palestinian in Gaza criticizing Hamas he'd be executed.

[saxitoxin]

One of the things that makes nations like America and Israel great is the freedom to express our differences.

Arab member of Knesset Haneen Zuabi, a regular critic of Israel's right-wing government, was banned Thursday from standing in next month's general election. Zuabi rejects the concept of Israel as a Jewish state and of it living alongside an independent Palestinian state. Instead, she supports the idea of a single state in which Jews and Arabs have equal rights.

[GabonX]

One of the things that makes nations like America and Israel great is the freedom to express our differences.

Arab member of Knesset Haneen Zuabi, a regular critic of Israel's right-wing government, was banned Thursday from standing in next month's general election. Zuabi rejects the concept of Israel as a Jewish state and of it living alongside an independent Palestinian state. Instead, she supports the idea of a single state in which Jews and Arabs have equal rights.

A relevant point from your article you neglected to mention:

The latest action against her was brought by members of the governing right-wing Likud party and the ultra-nationalist Yisrael Beitenu party on the grounds that she supports the "armed struggle against Israel."

Zuabi's opponents point out that she was suspended from parliament in July after declaring that the Palestinians who murdered three Israeli teenagers were not terrorists.

Sounds like we're not getting the whole story, not that we can expect you to be honest about things.

[saxitoxin]

Funnier and funnier ... GabonX says

One of the things that makes nations like America and Israel great is the freedom to express our differences.

And then I point out instance after instance of the jailing or suppression of free speech in Israel, to which he responds "But, but, Caveat 43-B applies in this case, the asterisk applies in that other case, this case you mentioned isn't valid because there was a Full Moon that night ..."



What GabonX meant to say is you can express your differences in Israel about things like what your favorite flavor of ice cream is or whether you like a particular restaurant.

[GabonX]

Funnier and funnier ... GabonX says

One of the things that makes nations like America and Israel great is the freedom to express our differences.

And then I point out instance after instance of the jailing or suppression of free speech in Israel, to which he responds "But, but, Caveat 43-B applies in this case, the asterisk applies in that other case, this case you mentioned isn't valid because there was a Full Moon that night ..."



What GabonX meant to say is you can express your differences in Israel about things like what your favorite flavor of ice cream is or whether you like a particular restaurant.

Active oldiers are not allowed to speak out against the military in the US either. Likewise, active terrorists are not allowed to hold political office.