end of europe?

[waauw]

So a person that wants his country to stay as it is, is a racist according to you?

In my experience, most of 'm are yes. But besides that, considering the titles of videos he has used, the titles of the accounts that uploaded his videos.
This account has a photo expressing disapproval of islamism and a photo Adolf Hitler. Seems racist enough to me.

https://www.facebook.com/islamnechceme/photos_stream

PS: he doesn't only post about foreigners in his own country. He has posted several vids of foreigners in other european nations.

[mrswdk]

China is home to about 23,000,000 Muslims, and society hasn't collapsed just yet.

Don't mix Chinese Muslims with African/Middle East Muslim immigrants. Muslims in Western China are native for that territory.

So if the problem isn't Islam then what is it?

Don't forget that China is a vast, diverse country of 1.3 billion people. Uighur Muslims from Xinjiang province are culturally and ethnically closer to people from Kazakhstan than they are to Han Chinese people from the coastal regions. In Beijing, Xinjiang people can stick out almost as much as Europeans. They're hardly another brick in the homogenous Chinese wall.

[GoranZ]

So a person that wants his country to stay as it is, is a racist according to you?

In my experience, most of 'm are yes.

You are rendering his rights, and you complain about his reactions. Of course that person will be hostile towards you, what do you expect, flowers?
So you can better understand the persons that want their country to stay as it is, they consider every African/middle east immigrant as Intruder... and intruders have no rights
Just to be clear I'm a person who wants my country to stay as it is, and I dont consider my self as racist. If its up to me, I would let the immigrants to stay and work in Europe(under conditions they to not create problems) but I would not give them voting rights. Something like permanent permission for residence.

But besides that, considering the titles of videos he has used, the titles of the accounts that uploaded his videos.
This account has a photo expressing disapproval of islamism and a photo Adolf Hitler. Seems racist enough to me.

https://www.facebook.com/islamnechceme/photos_stream

PS: he doesn't only post about foreigners in his own country. He has posted several vids of foreigners in other european nations.

Disapproval of Islam is acceptable... Its hit right, or that groups right to disapprove with undemocratic religious group.

The picture with Adolf Hitler is Black Humor, similar expression is used in Macedonian language, and Adolf Hitler is represented as a person who is saying to the immigrants from Middle East "back to where you came from".

[GoranZ]

China is home to about 23,000,000 Muslims, and society hasn't collapsed just yet.

Don't mix Chinese Muslims with African/Middle East Muslim immigrants. Muslims in Western China are native for that territory.

So if the problem isn't Islam then what is it?

Don't forget that China is a vast, diverse country of 1.3 billion people. Uighur Muslims from Xinjiang province are culturally and ethnically closer to people from Kazakhstan than they are to Han Chinese people from the coastal regions. In Beijing, Xinjiang people can stick out almost as much as Europeans. They're hardly another brick in the homogenous Chinese wall.

Muslims from Xinjiang are native to China, China is their country. They are not foreigners from some distant lands that have nothing in common with China.

The problem with African/Middle East Muslim immigrants is that if they want to live in Europe they should accept European values, not keep theirs and even promote them.
After all if they keep their values they will make Europe more like the country they came from... And they run away from that place.

[waauw]

So a person that wants his country to stay as it is, is a racist according to you?

In my experience, most of 'm are yes.

You are rendering his rights, and you complain about his reactions. Of course that person will be hostile towards you, what do you expect, flowers?
So you can better understand the persons that want their country to stay as it is, they consider every African/middle east immigrant as Intruder... and intruders have no rights
Just to be clear I'm a person who wants my country to stay as it is, and I dont consider my self as racist. If its up to me, I would let the immigrants to stay and work in Europe(under conditions they to not create problems) but I would not give them voting rights. Something like permanent permission for residence.

But besides that, considering the titles of videos he has used, the titles of the accounts that uploaded his videos.
This account has a photo expressing disapproval of islamism and a photo Adolf Hitler. Seems racist enough to me.

https://www.facebook.com/islamnechceme/photos_stream

PS: he doesn't only post about foreigners in his own country. He has posted several vids of foreigners in other european nations.

Disapproval of Islam is acceptable... Its hit right, or that groups right to disapprove with undemocratic religious group.

The picture with Adolf Hitler is Black Humor, similar expression is used in Macedonian language, and Adolf Hitler is represented as a person who is saying to the immigrants from Middle East "back to where you came from".

I'm not expecting flowers. I myself mentioned that I hate racists.

Many immigrants eventually have children and are discriminated against purely because of their skin colour by people like oneyed. It's near impossible to distinguish immigrants from domestic citizens with foreign ancestry. It's because of people like oneyed minorities are alienated and grow up in such hostile environments that they are pushed into criminality.

Anecdotal story:
When I was 13. I always used to take my bike to school. One morning I was passing by one of those state-funded little houses. There stood an adult with his little 4-5 year old. The kid kept screaming at me from the sideline "You dirty, dirty, dirty". The father stood by arms crossed and proud of his kid.
I was born in Belgium, I think like any other belgian, I have a belgian father and I consider myself belgian. All I did was pass by on my bike. Yet I was left in disgust for being treated that way purely based on my skin colour.

This same storyline happens to many foreign decendents in europe, because people like(it would seem) you and oneyed don't consider non-whites as domestic citizens.

But besides that, considering the titles of videos he has used, the titles of the accounts that uploaded his videos.
This account has a photo expressing disapproval of islamism and a photo Adolf Hitler. Seems racist enough to me.

https://www.facebook.com/islamnechceme/photos_stream

PS: he doesn't only post about foreigners in his own country. He has posted several vids of foreigners in other european nations.

Disapproval of Islam is acceptable... Its hit right, or that groups right to disapprove with undemocratic religious group.

The picture with Adolf Hitler is Black Humor, similar expression is used in Macedonian language, and Adolf Hitler is represented as a person who is saying to the immigrants from Middle East "back to where you came from".

Disapproval of Islam has become more mainsteam, but doesn't mean it is acceptable.

[mrswdk]

China is home to about 23,000,000 Muslims, and society hasn't collapsed just yet.

Don't mix Chinese Muslims with African/Middle East Muslim immigrants. Muslims in Western China are native for that territory.

So if the problem isn't Islam then what is it?

Don't forget that China is a vast, diverse country of 1.3 billion people. Uighur Muslims from Xinjiang province are culturally and ethnically closer to people from Kazakhstan than they are to Han Chinese people from the coastal regions. In Beijing, Xinjiang people can stick out almost as much as Europeans. They're hardly another brick in the homogenous Chinese wall.

Muslims from Xinjiang are native to China, China is their country. They are not foreigners from some distant lands that have nothing in common with China.

That's rather the point. What is 'China'? If it's an Islamic, central Asian country where people pray to Allah 5 times a day and the women wear head veils then yes, Xinjiang is 100% Chinese. However, there is only one part of China which is like that, and that is Xinjiang.

China is way more diverse than a lot of people realize. In some north eastern regions most kids will start learning Korean before they start to learn Chinese. In Tibet you can walk around and feel like you're in Nepal. In Beijing, a Uighur from Xinjiang is just as 'foreign' as an Australian. But they fit in just fine.

The problem with African/Middle East Muslim immigrants is that if they want to live in Europe they should accept European values, not keep theirs and even promote them.

None of the foreign-born people I have known in either China or the UK are looking to turn their new homes into a copy of their old ones.

In any case, why should an immigrant ape the dominant set of values of the society they live in? I thought one of the great 'European values' was individualism and tolerance for different lifestyles. Why should it be that someone living in, say, Germany with a German passport is free to live whatever lifestyle they choose, but someone living in Germany with a Turkish passport should be expected to shut up and behave how everyone else tells them to?

After all if they keep their values they will make Europe more like the country they came from... And they run away from that place.

If they 'ran away' from a country because they don't like it then the last thing they are going to do is try and turn their new country of residence into a clone of their previous one.

[mrswdk]

This same storyline happens to many foreign decendents in europe, because people like(it would seem) you and oneyed don't consider non-whites as domestic citizens.

lol. To flip it the other way around, a lot of Chinese people treat any and all ethnically Chinese people as if they are Chinese, even if they're fourth-generation American.

If a white guys comes to China and learns how to say 'hello' in Chinese, people will fawn (I'm sure khazalid can back me up here). If a Chinese-American comes to China and does not speak fluent, pitch-perfect Mandarin, people will be confused and wonder why he is such a bad Chinese person.

[GoranZ]

So a person that wants his country to stay as it is, is a racist according to you?

In my experience, most of 'm are yes.

You are rendering his rights, and you complain about his reactions. Of course that person will be hostile towards you, what do you expect, flowers?
So you can better understand the persons that want their country to stay as it is, they consider every African/middle east immigrant as Intruder... and intruders have no rights
Just to be clear I'm a person who wants my country to stay as it is, and I dont consider my self as racist. If its up to me, I would let the immigrants to stay and work in Europe(under conditions they to not create problems) but I would not give them voting rights. Something like permanent permission for residence.

But besides that, considering the titles of videos he has used, the titles of the accounts that uploaded his videos.
This account has a photo expressing disapproval of islamism and a photo Adolf Hitler. Seems racist enough to me.

https://www.facebook.com/islamnechceme/photos_stream

PS: he doesn't only post about foreigners in his own country. He has posted several vids of foreigners in other european nations.

Disapproval of Islam is acceptable... Its hit right, or that groups right to disapprove with undemocratic religious group.

The picture with Adolf Hitler is Black Humor, similar expression is used in Macedonian language, and Adolf Hitler is represented as a person who is saying to the immigrants from Middle East "back to where you came from".

I'm not expecting flowers. I myself mentioned that I hate racists.

The fact that you hate others(racist), because they dont like you makes you a racist... I hope you are aware of that.

Many immigrants eventually have children and are discriminated against purely because of their skin colour by people like oneyed. It's near impossible to distinguish immigrants from domestic citizens with foreign ancestry. It's because of people like oneyed minorities are alienated and grow up in such hostile environments that they are pushed into criminality.

So you are saying that people like oneyed or me literally take the hands of people of different skin color and made them criminals... Sorry but we are not responsible, nor we can be considered as responsible, for the actions that others with different skin color chose to do.

Anecdotal story:
When I was 13. I always used to take my bike to school. One morning I was passing by one of those state-funded little houses. There stood an adult with his little 4-5 year old. The kid kept screaming at me from the sideline "You dirty, dirty, dirty". The father stood by arms crossed and proud of his kid.
I was born in Belgium, I think like any other belgian, I have a belgian father and I consider myself belgian. All I did was pass by on my bike. Yet I was left in disgust for being treated that way purely based on my skin colour.

Similar story... my point of view
When I was 5 my parents bought new apartment. Next to the building I was leaving we had neighbors(Muslim immigrants from Kosovo) that were leaving illegally(it doesn't matter, nor I was aware of it, but explains what happen in the end of my story) in their house. And across the street I find new friend, Macedonian boy of my age. The neighbors from Kosovo also had a boy but it was littlbit smaller then me. In order for me to get to my friend I had to pass next to the immigrants kid house. When he was out he was never letting me to pass and get to my friend(reason unknown), and we were always fighting. He was the first person I had a fight with. One day I decided to fight him as long as it is needed in order to get to my friend. I manage to beat him and he run to his house. I though that he run away but few moments after that he came out with a knife in his hand. I was terrified and run away to my home's kitchen and started looking for knife also(I was looking for bigger then his). My mother noticed me and locked the door. Who knows what would have happen if she didn't. That was the first and only time in my live I had intention to use knife on a person.
Few days after our "knife" fight the immigrants family moved out and a week after that his house was demolished. I didn't learn his name, nor I understood him. He was only talking Albanian. I presume he didn't knew Macedonian.

Interesting but if you were that immigrants kid with different color skin then mine and you would have let me pass and play with my friend we would have never had any fight, even if you didn't knew my language I would have still tried to play with you, but if you knew my language we would most likely playing together.

This same storyline happens to many foreign decendents in europe, because people like(it would seem) you and oneyed don't consider non-whites as domestic citizens.

You can blame me or oneyed as long as you like, but in reality you should blame your self... I know that you cant change you color skin but you dont have to, you color's skin is not a problem for me, it will never be.

But besides that, considering the titles of videos he has used, the titles of the accounts that uploaded his videos.
This account has a photo expressing disapproval of islamism and a photo Adolf Hitler. Seems racist enough to me.

https://www.facebook.com/islamnechceme/photos_stream

PS: he doesn't only post about foreigners in his own country. He has posted several vids of foreigners in other european nations.

Disapproval of Islam is acceptable... Its hit right, or that groups right to disapprove with undemocratic religious group.

The picture with Adolf Hitler is Black Humor, similar expression is used in Macedonian language, and Adolf Hitler is represented as a person who is saying to the immigrants from Middle East "back to where you came from".

Disapproval of Islam has become more mainsteam, but doesn't mean it is acceptable.

Huh... Religion(with exception of some far east religions, I can imagine mrswdk face now ) is bringing differences to humanity, it isn't bringing us together. Religion is simply said... BAD.

[waauw]

I'm not expecting flowers. I myself mentioned that I hate racists.

The fact that you hate others(racist), because they dont like you makes you a racist... I hope you are aware of that.

Not really, I hate racists for their extreme nationalistic convictions not their race.

Many immigrants eventually have children and are discriminated against purely because of their skin colour by people like oneyed. It's near impossible to distinguish immigrants from domestic citizens with foreign ancestry. It's because of people like oneyed minorities are alienated and grow up in such hostile environments that they are pushed into criminality.

So you are saying that people like oneyed or me literally take the hands of people of different skin color and made them criminals... Sorry but we are not responsible, nor we can be considered as responsible, for the actions that others with different skin color chose to do.

You should watch your english. Because you should've said 'figuratively' and not 'literally'. Nowhere did I imply you were holding hands.
The point I'm making is that there are unintended but predictable consequences.

Anecdotal story:
When I was 13. I always used to take my bike to school. One morning I was passing by one of those state-funded little houses. There stood an adult with his little 4-5 year old. The kid kept screaming at me from the sideline "You dirty, dirty, dirty". The father stood by arms crossed and proud of his kid.
I was born in Belgium, I think like any other belgian, I have a belgian father and I consider myself belgian. All I did was pass by on my bike. Yet I was left in disgust for being treated that way purely based on my skin colour.

Similar story... my point of view
When I was 5 my parents bought new apartment. Next to the building I was leaving we had neighbors(Muslim immigrants from Kosovo) that were leaving illegally(it doesn't matter, nor I was aware of it, but explains what happen in the end of my story) in their house. And across the street I find new friend, Macedonian boy of my age. The neighbors from Kosovo also had a boy but it was littlbit smaller then me. In order for me to get to my friend I had to pass next to the immigrants kid house. When he was out he was never letting me to pass and get to my friend(reason unknown), and we were always fighting. He was the first person I had a fight with. One day I decided to fight him as long as it is needed in order to get to my friend. I manage to beat him and he run to his house. I though that he run away but few moments after that he came out with a knife in his hand. I was terrified and run away to my home's kitchen and started looking for knife also(I was looking for bigger then his). My mother noticed me and locked the door. Who knows what would have happen if she didn't. That was the first and only time in my live I had intention to use knife on a person.
Few days after our "knife" fight the immigrants family moved out and a week after that his house was demolished. I didn't learn his name, nor I understood him. He was only talking Albanian. I presume he didn't knew Macedonian.

Interesting but if you were that immigrants kid with different color skin then mine and you would have let me pass and play with my friend we would have never had any fight, even if you didn't knew my language I would have still tried to play with you, but if you knew my language we would most likely playing together.

Your story is nothing like mine. You might as well tell a story of any ordinary bully. You ignore the factor of 'motivation'.
Not to mention, you were talking about a little kid's behavior. The dreadful part of my story is the parent encouraging racist behavior.

This same storyline happens to many foreign decendents in europe, because people like(it would seem) you and oneyed don't consider non-whites as domestic citizens.

You can blame me or oneyed as long as you like, but in reality you should blame your self... I know that you cant change you color skin but you dont have to, you color's skin is not a problem for me, it will never be.

Well, I'm getting pissed at you because you are trying to stick up for the big damn racist that is oneyed. He keeps posting vids of coloured people in order to exert his hatred for their entire community.

Islam v Slovenskej Republike nechceme = I don't want any islamism in the Slovak Republic.
==> clearly hatred towards an entire minority

Disapproval of Islam has become more mainsteam, but doesn't mean it is acceptable.

Huh... Religion(with exception of some far east religions, I can imagine mrswdk face now ) is bringing differences to humanity, it isn't bringing us together. Religion is simply said... BAD.

As an atheist I agree that religions can be absolutely horrible, but that doesn't justify any discrimation against other religions. Most muslims over here are very nice people.

[Oneyed]

why liberals allways say something what was not said? where is racism? it is about that we do not want to have these riots and looting. is this so hard to understand that you must distort this and attack with racism?

btw, how many emigrants will you welcome in your home and help them?

Oneye

[waauw]

why liberals allways say something what was not said? where is racism? it is about that we do not want to have these riots and looting. is this so hard to understand that you must distort this and attack with racism?

btw, how many emigrants will you welcome in your home and help them?

Oneye

If you don't want to come over as a racist, then check your sources before you post them.
Imagine I posted a video called "All Slovaks are scum" and it was a video about Slovaks taking belgian jobs. That would make me look racist, just as you posting videos from obviously anti-islamists sources makes you look like a racist.

FYI, more than 10% of the Belgian population is migrant and yet we are doing fine over here.

[mrswdk]

why liberals allways say something what was not said? where is racism? it is about that we do not want to have these riots and looting. is this so hard to understand that you must distort this and attack with racism?

btw, how many emigrants will you welcome in your home and help them?

Oneye

Go to this page and see how many riots have occurred in Europe over the last few years, and how many of those were started by or are even related to migrants and migration.

By my count, there were 20 major riots in Europe between 2010 and 2015. About 2 or 3 of those had an ethnic element and could potentially be linked to 'immigrants', while the other 17/18 were all the work of European people. Most were anti-government and/or anti-austerity protests. It's also worth noting that that list doesn't include the majority of the Greek anti-austerity riots, of which there were a lot.

Looks like most riots in Europe are started by angry, poor Europeans, not migrants.

[Lord Arioch]

The old discussion of integration vs assimilation comes to mind here
Its totally ok (by me) for anyone to have any opinion they want ... and as ive said before this is a really explosive topic to discuss and it has no clear cut easy solutions... if there were war here i would leave and search for a new home ... and i would respect the country i went to, but thats me.

[macbone]

This same storyline happens to many foreign decendents in europe, because people like(it would seem) you and oneyed don't consider non-whites as domestic citizens.

lol. To flip it the other way around, a lot of Chinese people treat any and all ethnically Chinese people as if they are Chinese, even if they're fourth-generation American.

If a white guys comes to China and learns how to say 'hello' in Chinese, people will fawn (I'm sure khazalid can back me up here). If a Chinese-American comes to China and does not speak fluent, pitch-perfect Mandarin, people will be confused and wonder why he is such a bad Chinese person.

This is definitely true in Hong Kong, although I do get a lot of "you've been here how long and you still can't speak Cantonese?" from people who have been here only a little while. I had a friend who was terrified to go to the wet market or the post office because she couldn't speak Chinese, even though she's ethnically Chinese. It's just expected.

[mrswdk]

This same storyline happens to many foreign decendents in europe, because people like(it would seem) you and oneyed don't consider non-whites as domestic citizens.

lol. To flip it the other way around, a lot of Chinese people treat any and all ethnically Chinese people as if they are Chinese, even if they're fourth-generation American.

If a white guys comes to China and learns how to say 'hello' in Chinese, people will fawn (I'm sure khazalid can back me up here). If a Chinese-American comes to China and does not speak fluent, pitch-perfect Mandarin, people will be confused and wonder why he is such a bad Chinese person.

This is definitely true in Hong Kong, although I do get a lot of "you've been here how long and you still can't speak Cantonese?" from people who have been here only a little while. I had a friend who was terrified to go to the wet market or the post office because she couldn't speak Chinese, even though she's ethnically Chinese. It's just expected.

Well, there's only so long you can use being foreign as an excuse for not knowing stuff

Although in your defense, even people from Hong Kong have told me that there is no point in learning Cantonese while you're there.

Those guys who've been in Beijing for nearly a decade and still need to be escorted everywhere by a Chinese-speaker because they can barely string three words together, on the other hand... #epicfail.

[GoranZ]

I'm not expecting flowers. I myself mentioned that I hate racists.

The fact that you hate others(racist), because they dont like you makes you a racist... I hope you are aware of that.

Not really, I hate racists for their extreme nationalistic convictions not their race.

The line between patriots and racist is very thin... And patriots have justifiable reason(they want the best for their country)

Anecdotal story:
When I was 13. I always used to take my bike to school. One morning I was passing by one of those state-funded little houses. There stood an adult with his little 4-5 year old. The kid kept screaming at me from the sideline "You dirty, dirty, dirty". The father stood by arms crossed and proud of his kid.
I was born in Belgium, I think like any other belgian, I have a belgian father and I consider myself belgian. All I did was pass by on my bike. Yet I was left in disgust for being treated that way purely based on my skin colour.

Similar story... my point of view
When I was 5 my parents bought new apartment. Next to the building I was leaving we had neighbors(Muslim immigrants from Kosovo) that were leaving illegally(it doesn't matter, nor I was aware of it, but explains what happen in the end of my story) in their house. And across the street I find new friend, Macedonian boy of my age. The neighbors from Kosovo also had a boy but it was littlbit smaller then me. In order for me to get to my friend I had to pass next to the immigrants kid house. When he was out he was never letting me to pass and get to my friend(reason unknown), and we were always fighting. He was the first person I had a fight with. One day I decided to fight him as long as it is needed in order to get to my friend. I manage to beat him and he run to his house. I though that he run away but few moments after that he came out with a knife in his hand. I was terrified and run away to my home's kitchen and started looking for knife also(I was looking for bigger then his). My mother noticed me and locked the door. Who knows what would have happen if she didn't. That was the first and only time in my live I had intention to use knife on a person.
Few days after our "knife" fight the immigrants family moved out and a week after that his house was demolished. I didn't learn his name, nor I understood him. He was only talking Albanian. I presume he didn't knew Macedonian.

Interesting but if you were that immigrants kid with different color skin then mine and you would have let me pass and play with my friend we would have never had any fight, even if you didn't knew my language I would have still tried to play with you, but if you knew my language we would most likely playing together.

Your story is nothing like mine. You might as well tell a story of any ordinary bully. You ignore the factor of 'motivation'.
Not to mention, you were talking about a little kid's behavior. The dreadful part of my story is the parent encouraging racist behavior.

Where do you think he learn that he should fight with other kids... I presume he learn that from his parents. After all, all children are born equal.

This same storyline happens to many foreign decendents in europe, because people like(it would seem) you and oneyed don't consider non-whites as domestic citizens.

You can blame me or oneyed as long as you like, but in reality you should blame your self... I know that you cant change you color skin but you dont have to, you color's skin is not a problem for me, it will never be.

Well, I'm getting pissed at you because you are trying to stick up for the big damn racist that is oneyed. He keeps posting vids of coloured people in order to exert his hatred for their entire community.

Islam v Slovenskej Republike nechceme = I don't want any islamism in the Slovak Republic.
==> clearly hatred towards an entire minority

I see(and consider) oneyed as a patriot not as a racist. That's the difference.
Islam was never part of Slovakia or Slovakian culture, and he likes that to stay that way. As a contrast I believe he is more open towards Protestant or Orthodox Christians.

Looks like most riots in Europe are started by angry, poor Europeans, not migrants.

If you look by percentage of population migrants should lead ... But that doesn't matter a lot.

The problem with Islamic migrants is that they show resilience towards European culture or values, and they try to shape Europe towards the values of the country they originate from.

[waauw]

Not really, I hate racists for their extreme nationalistic convictions not their race.

The line between patriots and racist is very thin... And patriots have justifiable reason(they want the best for their country)

Well I'm not fond of nationalism as well.

Your story is nothing like mine. You might as well tell a story of any ordinary bully. You ignore the factor of 'motivation'.
Not to mention, you were talking about a little kid's behavior. The dreadful part of my story is the parent encouraging racist behavior.

Where do you think he learn that he should fight with other kids... I presume he learn that from his parents. After all, all children are born equal.

There you said it, "presume". It's not certain he learned that from his parents. Kids learn a lot of things from other people that aren't their parents. Nor, according to what you've told me so far, did the kid act against you purely because you have a different ethnicity.

Well, I'm getting pissed at you because you are trying to stick up for the big damn racist that is oneyed. He keeps posting vids of coloured people in order to exert his hatred for their entire community.

Islam v Slovenskej Republike nechceme = I don't want any islamism in the Slovak Republic.
==> clearly hatred towards an entire minority

I see(and consider) oneyed as a patriot not as a racist. That's the difference.
Islam was never part of Slovakia or Slovakian culture, and he likes that to stay that way. As a contrast I believe he is more open towards Protestant or Orthodox Christians.

And the motivation for this overly patriotic behavior is intolerance.
Western Europe used to think and promote the same line of thought in the 19th century and the first part of the 20th century. It led to WWI, WWII and the genocide of minorities.

[Lord Arioch]

Call me a hippie ( or not) but i think if people just sat down and got to know each other ...

When i went my second time to Bratislava to do a lecture for some of their leaders on how we teach immigrants here in sweden i read an intresting article... this was like 2 years ago i think. People applying for asylum beause they stated they were homosexuals (male) and hazzeled for it in their homelands were forced to whatch a pornographic movie ... and if they got an erection well they were proven to be non homosexual and therefore no asylum ... might be true might be not... but it says something about our world and the intolerance in it.

As ive said before if there were a war here i would take my kids and leave and hope to find a new home ...

I belive that diversity makes us stronger as a race ... and i recommend u all to read ursula k leguin Lathe of heaven its an accurate description on the circumstance for world peace and world understanding. And if u want more on the topic of basic human behaviour and itss consequences same author and the word for world is forest ... really makes the tiny greys work overtime:)

[mrswdk]

Protestantism was formed a few hundred years ago for the specific purpose of opposing the established (Catholic) Church, and rivalry between Protestants and Catholics has been responsible for devastating wars and brutal religious persecution all over Europe. Now, Protestantism and Catholicism are able to co-exist perfectly harmoniously. Why Islam should be any different is beyond me.

Culture is a constantly evolving thing, dude. Change is nothing to fear.

[mrswdk]

On another note, this bit made me lol:

Where do you think he learn that he should fight with other kids... I presume he learn that from his parents

You went home to look for a knife so that you could go back and fight him with it. How were you any different to him?

[Lord Arioch]

I heard an egyptian prof once he said that EU are at 2015 the islamic world around 14-1500 ... in way of thinking cant rememeber more but he had a point the difference between countries, religions and so on is taken for granted but not everyone is in the boat so to speak ... look at IS ...
But education and enlightenment is the key ... i think the world needs a second enlightenment wave! Or just more fun... and people stopping taking em selves so damned seriously

[mrswdk]

I heard an egyptian prof once he said that EU are at 2015 the islamic world around 14-1500 ... in way of thinking cant rememeber more but he had a point the difference between countries, religions and so on is taken for granted but not everyone is in the boat so to speak ... look at IS ...
But education and enlightenment is the key ... i think the world needs a second enlightenment wave! Or just more fun... and people stopping taking em selves so damned seriously

lol. There's a saying in Chinese, 'chong yang mei wai' (崇洋媚外). It means 'to idolize and fawn over all that is foreign'.

Sounds like your Egyptian professor has a case of the heart eyes

[Lord Arioch]

maybee but i think he has a point not everybody is on the same political, technological level and therefore its better to educte than condem

By the way dont the chinese like have sayings for everything

[mrswdk]

I dunno. I don't think anyone can really claim to be any more enlightened than anyone else. It doesn't matter how much of a brainiac someone is, the list of things they don't understand is still infinitely longer than the list of things they do. The only knowledge which matters is knowing what you want to achieve and knowing how to achieve it.

And you are right, there is an idiom for everything \(^0^)/

[Lord Arioch]

And keep an open and friendly mind people aint assholes until they ahve prove em such!

I knew it! But hey the chinese are old and wise and we all bask in the wisdom of the ancients!