A thread about etiquette

[waauw]

This is good. Outdated culture and tradition ought to be destroyed, not preserved. Out with the old world, in with the new.

Such an odd thing to hear from a nation that holds so much historical pride.

[Dukasaur]

This is good. Outdated culture and tradition ought to be destroyed, not preserved. Out with the old world, in with the new.

Such an odd thing to hear from a nation that holds so much historical pride.

Mrswdk doesn't represent the nation.. she is only paid to shill for the Communist Party that has enslaved the nation.

[mrswdk]

This is good. Outdated culture and tradition ought to be destroyed, not preserved. Out with the old world, in with the new.

Such an odd thing to hear from a nation that holds so much historical pride.

I've actually yet to hear one Chinese person make a big deal out of the fact that China has a long history. Maybe the diaspora care, but mainlanders don't really pay it much thought.

Re tradition: getting stuck in the old ways while other countries were modernizing left the Qing Dynasty weak and in a state where the imperial powers could attack and exploit it with ease. Even the nationalists who followed the QIng were largely opposed to reform. It wasn't until the CCP hit the reset button that the ground was laid for China's modernization and development.

[mrswdk]

This is good. Outdated culture and tradition ought to be destroyed, not preserved. Out with the old world, in with the new.

Such an odd thing to hear from a nation that holds so much historical pride.

Mrswdk doesn't represent the nation.. she is only paid to shill for the Communist Party that has enslaved the nation.

It's okay, I know your understanding of China begins and ends at Kung Pao Chicken. You are forgiven.

[Dukasaur]

This is good. Outdated culture and tradition ought to be destroyed, not preserved. Out with the old world, in with the new.

Such an odd thing to hear from a nation that holds so much historical pride.

Mrswdk doesn't represent the nation.. she is only paid to shill for the Communist Party that has enslaved the nation.

It's okay, I know your understanding of China begins and ends at Kung Pao Chicken. You are forgiven.

I'm surprised you're allowed to use that word for it. I thought it was banned on the mainland..

[mrswdk]

Communism died with Mao. Get with the times, lao ye!

[mrswdk]

How many Chinese have read the Romance of Three Kingdoms or other books of the classic Chinese canon?

Almost none, unless perhaps if they studied Chinese literature at university level.

[waauw]

That's so weird, in my immediate circle I know 4 people who have read it, and not in an academic setting.

Yeah but you probably hang out at some philosophers lounge every weekend. I'm betting your acquaintances have read more more books than 95% of the people.

[mrswdk]

I am just having difficulty parsing mrswdk's version of Chinese people with my own sense of reality. In other threads, she has said they don't care about politics, or the environment, or history or literature. In other words, all they care about is Hollywood movies and celebrity gossip. If they are basically just Americans that don't have a Mexican maid, why wouldn't American society work for them like it has worked for us?

Right. The maids are Chinese migrant workers instead

I don't know enough about American society to know how it differs from China. What parts of American society do you think China lacks but that could be applied?

[mrswdk]

The nation of the PRC is a border drawn on the ground, within which is the national system of the PRC of which all its residents are a part. Being Chinese simply means possessing a passport or a visa that makes one a member of the PRC system. There is nothing else to it. If tomorrow you took away my passports, moved me to Morocco and gave me a Moroccan passport then I would be a Moroccan.

Historical events, cultural creations and famous individuals are nothing to do with me and play no role in my self-identity.

[Dukasaur]

The nation of the PRC is a border drawn on the ground, within which is the national system of the PRC of which all its residents are a part. Being Chinese simply means possessing a passport or a visa that makes one a member of the PRC system. There is nothing else to it. If tomorrow you took away my passports, moved me to Morocco and gave me a Moroccan passport then I would be a Moroccan.

Historical events, cultural creations and famous individuals are nothing to do with me and play no role in my self-identity.

Except Justin Bieber.

Ba-dump!

[waauw]

The nation of the PRC is a border drawn on the ground, within which is the national system of the PRC of which all its residents are a part. Being Chinese simply means possessing a passport or a visa that makes one a member of the PRC system. There is nothing else to it. If tomorrow you took away my passports, moved me to Morocco and gave me a Moroccan passport then I would be a Moroccan.

Historical events, cultural creations and famous individuals are nothing to do with me and play no role in my self-identity.

I'm starting to wonder if this is part of the historical humiliation China had undergone during colonial times.

[mrswdk]

The destruction of old culture pursued in the Cultural Revolution was directly inspired by the century of humiliation, yes. The old ways were blamed for making China stagnant and weak, allowing it to be victimized by the imperial powers. Japan, on the other hand, underwent a forced modernization during the Meiji, and ended up overtaking China in the 19th century. They threw off the old ways, embraced the new world and it worked wonders for them.

I'm pretty sure my lack of attachment to any particular country or culture is not a special Chinese thing though.

[tzor]

I don't know enough about American society to know how it differs from China. What parts of American society do you think China lacks but that could be applied?

Clean air?

But seriously, apart from differences in styles of government, I can't think of any significant differences.

[Metsfanmax]

I don't know enough about American society to know how it differs from China. What parts of American society do you think China lacks but that could be applied?

Apparently, saying thank you to others.