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Re: PRESIDENTIAL PALACE FALLS TO BOLSONARISTAS!

Postby mookiemcgee on Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:08 pm

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Re: BOLSONARO SUPPORTERS STORM CONGRESS!

Postby Dukasaur on Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:14 pm

GaryDenton wrote:Why are you supporting another corrupt authoritarian fascist and his mob of thugs?


Saxi worships corrupt authoritarian fascists.

If you go through the forums, you'll see him at one time or another drooling over Assad, Putin, Trump, Napoleon, Hoxha, Orban.

He wants to fellate them all.
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Re: BOLSONARO SUPPORTERS STORM CONGRESS!

Postby pmac666 on Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:38 pm

saxitoxin wrote:Glorious scenes in Brasilia! The They/Thems are on the run from the raw fist of People Power!



The peaceful protesters have successfully overrun the handful of police that Lula convinced to respond and are peacefully escorting them away from the Nereu Ramos Palace.



The Presidential Guard has quietly withdrawn from the presidential palace and the peaceful protesters have seized control of it.



The Judicial Police have refused to surrender to the People and the Court of Cassation remains under siege for now.

Meanwhile, in Rio di Janeiro, the Civil Police and the Military Police - or at least some of their units - have defected to the side of the People.



The People want the Captain to return from Florida and lead them again!

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How it started.


How its going.


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Re: BOLSONARO SUPPORTERS STORM CONGRESS!

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:41 pm

Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism

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Re: BOLSONARO SUPPORTERS STORM CONGRESS!

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:00 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
GaryDenton wrote:Why are you supporting another corrupt authoritarian fascist and his mob of thugs?


Saxi worships corrupt authoritarian fascists.

If you go through the forums, you'll see him at one time or another drooling over Assad, Putin, Trump, Napoleon, Hoxha, Orban.


I oppose capitalist neoliberalism. Because of its militant and obsessive approach, many anti-neoliberal countries have no choice but to take totalitarian defensive measures to prevent infiltration from this creeping threat. Their survival is a critical bulwark.

There is a world war going on and I stand on the side of Putin, Assad, Julian Assange, Palestinian freedom, and humanity; and against George Bush, Dick Cheney, Hillary Clinton, Walmart, Coca-Cola, Zionist apartheid, and the the crushing of human freedom. Even if it means we must temporarily suspend that which we desire. The greatest American of the 20th century was Ramsey Clark who, in later life, rehabilitated himself for his work for the war criminal Lyndon B. Johnson.

This is the essence of Saxistentialist Ideology.
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Re: BOLSONARO SUPPORTERS STORM CONGRESS!

Postby Dukasaur on Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:17 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
GaryDenton wrote:Why are you supporting another corrupt authoritarian fascist and his mob of thugs?


Saxi worships corrupt authoritarian fascists.

If you go through the forums, you'll see him at one time or another drooling over Assad, Putin, Trump, Napoleon, Hoxha, Orban.


I oppose capitalist neoliberalism. Because of its militant and obsessive approach, many anti-neoliberal countries have no choice but to take totalitarian defensive measures to prevent infiltration from this creeping threat. Their survival is a critical bulwark.

There is a world war going on and I stand on the side of Putin, Assad, Julian Assange, Palestinian freedom, and humanity; and against George Bush, Dick Cheney, Hillary Clinton, Walmart, Coca-Cola, Zionist apartheid, and the the crushing of human freedom. Even if it means we must temporarily suspend that which we desire. The greatest American of the 20th century was Ramsey Clark who, in later life, rehabilitated himself for his work for the war criminal Lyndon B. Johnson.

This is the essence of Saxistentialist Ideology.

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Re: BOLSONARO SUPPORTERS STORM CONGRESS!

Postby pmac666 on Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:15 am

saxitoxin wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
GaryDenton wrote:Why are you supporting another corrupt authoritarian fascist and his mob of thugs?


Saxi worships corrupt authoritarian fascists.

If you go through the forums, you'll see him at one time or another drooling over Assad, Putin, Trump, Napoleon, Hoxha, Orban.


I oppose capitalist neoliberalism. Because of its militant and obsessive approach, many anti-neoliberal countries have no choice but to take totalitarian defensive measures to prevent infiltration from this creeping threat. Their survival is a critical bulwark.

There is a world war going on and I stand on the side of Putin, Assad, Julian Assange, Palestinian freedom, and humanity; and against George Bush, Dick Cheney, Hillary Clinton, Walmart, Coca-Cola, Zionist apartheid, and the the crushing of human freedom. Even if it means we must temporarily suspend that which we desire. The greatest American of the 20th century was Ramsey Clark who, in later life, rehabilitated himself for his work for the war criminal Lyndon B. Johnson.

This is the essence of Saxistentialist Ideology.


Thats mighty weak when you have to bolster your ideology with countless lies as we see here day by day.
But then its quite on brand for fascists.....
(luckily the majority sees right through your bs)

And btw, being against neolibs and praising the likes of Trump and Bolso is especially hilarious. :lol:
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Re: PRESIDENTIAL PALACE FALLS TO BOLSONARISTAS!

Postby bigtoughralf on Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:06 am

Where do countries like the UK and Germany sit on the neolib scale?
- Friendly with US but also suck up to China
- Trying to prevent sanctions on Israel relating to Palestine but simultaneously attacking Russia over Ukraine
- Free market economies but also relatively generous social welfare and UK recently withdrew from globo-Zionist EU
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Re: PRESIDENTIAL PALACE FALLS TO BOLSONARISTAS!

Postby saxitoxin on Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:47 pm

bigtoughralf wrote:Where do countries like the UK and Germany sit on the neolib scale?
- Friendly with US but also suck up to China
- Trying to prevent sanctions on Israel relating to Palestine but simultaneously attacking Russia over Ukraine
- Free market economies but also relatively generous social welfare and UK recently withdrew from globo-Zionist EU


To be fair, I'm letting the word Neoliberal do a lot of work here. I mean to say not just the hyper-capitalism of the Washington Consensus, but also the two approaches to warmongering internationalism, Neoconservatism and Idealism, that underpins it.

If your country is a NATO or EU state it's an abomination.
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Re: PRESIDENTIAL PALACE FALLS TO BOLSONARISTAS!

Postby GaryDenton on Mon Jan 09, 2023 6:10 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
GaryDenton wrote:
Why are you supporting another corrupt authoritarian fascist and his mob of thugs?


Saxi worships corrupt authoritarian fascists.

If you go through the forums, you'll see him at one time or another drooling over Assad, Putin, Trump, Napoleon, Hoxha, Orban.


SAXI:

I oppose capitalist neoliberalism. Because of its militant and obsessive approach, many anti-neoliberal countries have no choice but to take totalitarian defensive measures to prevent infiltration from this creeping threat. Their survival is a critical bulwark.

There is a world war going on and I stand on the side of Putin, Assad, Julian Assange, Palestinian freedom, and humanity; and against George Bush, Dick Cheney, Hillary Clinton, Walmart, Coca-Cola, Zionist apartheid, and the the crushing of human freedom. Even if it means we must temporarily suspend that which we desire. The greatest American of the 20th century was Ramsey Clark who, in later life, rehabilitated himself for his work for the war criminal Lyndon B. Johnson.

This is the essence of Saxistentialist Ideology.


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Re: BOLSONARO SUPPORTERS STORM CONGRESS!

Postby jimboston on Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:12 am

pmac666 wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
GaryDenton wrote:Why are you supporting another corrupt authoritarian fascist and his mob of thugs?


Saxi worships corrupt authoritarian fascists.

If you go through the forums, you'll see him at one time or another drooling over Assad, Putin, Trump, Napoleon, Hoxha, Orban.


I oppose capitalist neoliberalism. Because of its militant and obsessive approach, many anti-neoliberal countries have no choice but to take totalitarian defensive measures to prevent infiltration from this creeping threat. Their survival is a critical bulwark.

There is a world war going on and I stand on the side of Putin, Assad, Julian Assange, Palestinian freedom, and humanity; and against George Bush, Dick Cheney, Hillary Clinton, Walmart, Coca-Cola, Zionist apartheid, and the the crushing of human freedom. Even if it means we must temporarily suspend that which we desire. The greatest American of the 20th century was Ramsey Clark who, in later life, rehabilitated himself for his work for the war criminal Lyndon B. Johnson.

This is the essence of Saxistentialist Ideology.


Thats mighty weak when you have to bolster your ideology with countless lies as we see here day by day.
But then its quite on brand for fascists.....
(luckily the majority sees right through your bs)

And btw, being against neolibs and praising the likes of Trump and Bolso is especially hilarious. :lol:


Like in 1984 the “Truth” is not absolute, it’s relative to Saxi and other Right Wing Fascists.

Frankly it’s also relative for people on the far Left who deny other facts.

The normal people in the middle, the 90% of us that live in and want to live in a world which has disagreements but is generally moderate, we have defend ourselves from both extremes.

The problem is the extremists on both sides are trying to make us choose.
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Re: BOLSONARO SUPPORTERS STORM CONGRESS!

Postby Dukasaur on Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:53 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
GaryDenton wrote:Why are you supporting another corrupt authoritarian fascist and his mob of thugs?


Saxi worships corrupt authoritarian fascists.

If you go through the forums, you'll see him at one time or another drooling over Assad, Putin, Trump, Napoleon, Hoxha, Orban.


I oppose capitalist neoliberalism.

Why?

I've asked you before and have never gotten a coherent answer. Why?

saxitoxin wrote:I oppose capitalist neoliberalism. Because of its militant and obsessive approach, many anti-neoliberal countries have no choice but to take totalitarian defensive measures to prevent infiltration from this creeping threat.

Attack by an outside threat has been the primary excuse used by tyrants since the dawn of time. I'm pretty sure you're smart enough not to be taken in by this.

saxitoxin wrote:There is a world war going on and I stand on the side of Putin, Assad, Julian Assange, Palestinian freedom, and humanity; and against George Bush, Dick Cheney, Hillary Clinton, Walmart, Coca-Cola, Zionist apartheid, and the the crushing of human freedom.

I see no yardstick by which the latter are crushing human freedom more than the former.

Putin's outrageously illegal and immoral invasion of Ukraine is neither more nor less evil than Bush's illegal and immoral invasion of Iraq.

Assange is possibly the one good guy that doesn't deserve to be rubbing shoulder's with the rogue's gallery on your list. But he's not central to your thesis anyway.

saxitoxin wrote:The greatest American of the 20th century was Ramsey Clark who, in later life, rehabilitated himself for his work for the war criminal Lyndon B. Johnson.

I beg to differ.

I don't disagree with Clark's condemnation of America's imperialist adventures, but it's a fallacy to assume that if one side is doing evil then the other side is doing good. Politics and war are games where there's often no good guys -- just different flavours of bad guy. Clark certainly did some good work but he jumped through logical hoops to persuade himself that the butchers of Rwanda (for instance) were the good guys, mainly because they were opposed by people he hated at home.
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Re: BOLSONARO SUPPORTERS STORM CONGRESS!

Postby bigtoughralf on Thu Jan 12, 2023 4:07 am

Dukasaur wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:I oppose capitalist neoliberalism. Because of its militant and obsessive approach, many anti-neoliberal countries have no choice but to take totalitarian defensive measures to prevent infiltration from this creeping threat.

Attack by an outside threat has been the primary excuse used by tyrants since the dawn of time. I'm pretty sure you're smart enough not to be taken in by this.


tbf countries that the US or Russia don't like get pounced on the second the US or Russia think they have an opportunity to pounce. These are countries that have been imperialist war-mongers since Day 1, anyone whose interests diverge from theirs is right to be cautious of them.

Sucks to be a country like Ukraine where both of them want you, there's no way you're getting out of that scenario intact.
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Re: BOLSONARO SUPPORTERS STORM CONGRESS!

Postby jimboston on Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:25 am

bigtoughralf wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:I oppose capitalist neoliberalism. Because of its militant and obsessive approach, many anti-neoliberal countries have no choice but to take totalitarian defensive measures to prevent infiltration from this creeping threat.

Attack by an outside threat has been the primary excuse used by tyrants since the dawn of time. I'm pretty sure you're smart enough not to be taken in by this.


tbf countries that the US or Russia don't like get pounced on the second the US or Russia think they have an opportunity to pounce. These are countries that have been imperialist war-mongers since Day 1, anyone whose interests diverge from theirs is right to be cautious of them.

Sucks to be a country like Ukraine where both of them want you, there's no way you're getting out of that scenario intact.


… but England / UK was never an Imperialist War Mongering Country?

The only reason you aren’t that way anymore is because you lost your mojo.
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Re: PRESIDENTIAL PALACE FALLS TO BOLSONARISTAS!

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Jan 14, 2023 11:16 am

Bolsonaro's lapdog Anderson Torres left his master in Florida and returned to Brazil to face the music.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-64275368

Torres was arrested for his role in facilitating the Jan 8th invasion of the capital by illiterate thugs loyal to Bolso.
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Re: PRESIDENTIAL PALACE FALLS TO BOLSONARISTAS!

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Jan 14, 2023 12:41 pm

Dukasaur wrote:Bolsonaro's lapdog Anderson Torres left his master in Florida and returned to Brazil to face the music.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-64275368

Torres was arrested for his role in facilitating the Jan 8th invasion of the capital by illiterate thugs loyal to Bolso.


No biggie. Spending a few weeks in jail is usual for Brazilian politicians. Lula himself spent three years in jail literally right before he became president. Torres will be out on bail soon but with the added glow of martyrdom about him that only a short stint in a minimum security prison can offer. He will be more valuable to Bolsonaro in Brasilia than in Orlando.
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Re: PRESIDENTIAL PALACE FALLS TO BOLSONARISTAS!

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Jan 14, 2023 12:59 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:Bolsonaro's lapdog Anderson Torres left his master in Florida and returned to Brazil to face the music.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-64275368

Torres was arrested for his role in facilitating the Jan 8th invasion of the capital by illiterate thugs loyal to Bolso.


No biggie. Spending a few weeks in jail is usual for Brazilian politicians. Lula himself spent three years in jail literally right before he became president. Torres will be out on bail soon but with the added glow of martyrdom about him that only a short stint in a minimum security prison can offer. He will be more valuable to Bolsonaro in Brasilia than in Orlando.


I bet he gets a glow from Bubba's Love Juice, too.
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Re: PRESIDENTIAL PALACE FALLS TO BOLSONARISTAS!

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:41 pm

Bolsonaro doesn't have time for Canada.

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Lula Orders Army to Withdraw - Afraid of Coup

Postby saxitoxin on Tue Jan 17, 2023 5:46 pm

Lula has ordered the Army to withdraw from defending the presidential palace, saying he doesn't trust the military or police and is afraid of being overthrown in a military coup at any moment.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/ ... 023-01-17/

The presidential office has refused to say who will guard the palace in the absence of the military or police.

Remember, Salvador Allende faced this same dilemma and created the GAP -- a group of far-left activists armed with pistols -- to protect him. One year later La Moneda was attacked by the entire Chilean Army, Navy, Air Force, and Carabineros at once, and Allende, his entire staff, and the whole GAP wiped out in one fell swoop. Those who survived were executed in the Estadio Nacional later that afternoon. Afterwards, the Chilean military laughed about how easy it was to defeat the GAP. The Provisional Committee ran Chile for the next 21 years, restoring peace and dismantling the entire leftwing organizing apparatus.

Allende came to rely on the GAP as his principal protective force, despite the organization having no formal legal status. GAP leveraged its hybrid status to conduct recce and intelligence-gathering in Chile under the pretense of presidential protection but with information actually being collected for the benefit of MIR paramilitary operations against the political opposition. However, a 1972 operation in Curimon, in which intoxicated GAP personnel fumbled their mission to locate the whereabouts of Arturo Marshall, made Chilean military intelligence aware of the use of GAP in this manner. This led to the disentanglement of the GAP from MIR, which was put under the formal control of the ruling Socialist Party, leading to the resignation or dismissal of many of the MIR members of the GAP.

At the outset of the 1973 Chilean coup d'état, the presidential palace of La Moneda was defended by members of the GAP, 20 detectives of the Investigations Police of Chile (PDI), and 300 carabineros.[4] As news of the military uprising reached Santiago, leader Bruno the White led a dozen armed GAP reinforcements to the presidential residence. However, on approaching the PDI detectives stationed at the palace to rally their assistance, the group was promptly disarmed and arrested. At 9:00 a.m. on September 11, the carabineros withdrew after Gen. César Mendoza, commandant of the Carabineros de Chile, threw the force's support to the military junta.[4]

The main attack against the presidential palace commenced shortly after the carabineros had withdrawn. At about 1:30 p.m. on September 11, Chilean Army infantry entered the building; following an exchange of gunfire, GAP personnel surrendered and Allende committed suicide.[4] Nearly 30 GAP personnel either died during the fighting, or were executed after the fall of the palace.

GAP's capabilities were dismissed by Chilean Navy commander José Toribio Merino who wrote in his memoirs of a visit he made to Allende six days before the coup and recalled that "we found ourselves facing a fort, Disney movie style, an armed protected fortress ... a laughable show. What they were doing they took seriously ... They seemed like kids playing bandits".

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Re: Lula Orders Army to Withdraw - Afraid of Coup

Postby saxitoxin on Tue Jan 17, 2023 5:58 pm

Chilean Head of State, September 10, 1973:

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Chilean Head of State, September 12, 1973:

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Stay tough, Brazil. The Captain is coming!
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Re: BOLSONARO SUPPORTERS STORM CONGRESS!

Postby Dukasaur on Wed Jan 18, 2023 9:42 am

Dukasaur wrote:
GaryDenton wrote:Why are you supporting another corrupt authoritarian fascist and his mob of thugs?


Saxi worships corrupt authoritarian fascists.

If you go through the forums, you'll see him at one time or another drooling over Assad, Putin, Trump, Napoleon, Hoxha, Orban.

He wants to fellate them all.

saxitoxin wrote:Image


Ooops, forgot Allende.

Updated list:
If you go through the forums, you'll see him at one time or another drooling over Assad, Putin, Trump, Napoleon, Hoxha, Orban, Pinochet.
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Re: Lula Orders Army to Withdraw - Afraid of Coup

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:35 pm

PINOCHET

Liberal narrative about Salvador Allende:

"He was a democratically-elected leader who was overthrown by the power-hungry military just because he was a progressive."

Uncomfortable facts about Salvador Allende that don't get mentioned:

    - He was elected in a three-way race with just 36% of the popular vote.

    - Within one year of his election, inflation had increased to 150%, the economy had contracted by 10%, and unemployment was spiking.

    - Allende directed Socialist Party paramilitary forces to attempt to kidnap one of his political opponents, Arturo Marshall. He had ordered the police not to serve arrest warrants against known terrorists, and repeatedly refused to enforce court orders that went against his policies. He was importing guns and anti-tank weapons from China (via Cuba), in violation of Chile's own laws, and distributing them to Socialist Party activists.

    - Two months before the coup, the Chilean Supreme Court, in a 7-0 resolution wrote to Allende: ""This Supreme Court is obliged to express to Your Excellency, once again, the illicit attitude of the administrative authority in its illegal interference in judicial matters, such as putting obstacles in the way of police compliance with court orders in criminal cases; orders which, under the existing law of the country, should be carried out by the police without obstacles of any kind."

    - A month before the coup, the Chilean Congress enacted a resolution that found "it is a fact that the current government of the Republic, from the beginning, has sought to conquer absolute power with the obvious purpose of subjecting all citizens to the strictest political and economic control by the state and, in this manner, fulfilling the goal of establishing a totalitarian system: the absolute opposite of the representative democracy established by the Constitution"

    - Prior to the coup of September, Gen. Pinochet had intervened to save Allende from an attempted assassination by rebel army units. After that, he was warned that his disregard for the rule of law, his refusal to enforce criminal warrants, his refusal to obey court orders, his mismanagement of the economy, rumors of his embezzlement of state funds, and his use of private paramilitary forces to attack and harass his opponents, was spiraling the country towards civil war.
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Re: Lula Orders Army to Withdraw - Afraid of Coup

Postby mookiemcgee on Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:44 pm

what's your opinion of Mussolini Saxi?
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Re: Lula Orders Army to Withdraw - Afraid of Coup

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:02 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:what's your opinion of Mussolini Saxi?


Same as my opinion of your mom.
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Re: Lula Orders Army to Withdraw - Afraid of Coup

Postby mookiemcgee on Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:18 pm

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mookiemcgee wrote:what's your opinion of Mussolini Saxi?


Same as my opinion of your mom.


Them being dead isn't an opinion, it's a fact.

Now if you opinion is you'd fork them even though they are dead that's perfectly valid i guess
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