Imperialistic Argentina once more extends its soiled talons

[saxitoxin]

International Law?

Care to quote the clause pertinent to this dispute, where Britain is in breach of it,

David Cameron responding to a rational and diplomatic call for bilateral discussion from the United Nations by frothing at the mouth and ranting like a mad man about blasting Argentina to smitherines is a violation of Article 33, Section 1 of the UN charter:

The parties to any dispute, the continuance of which is likely to endanger the maintenance of international peace and security, shall, first of all, seek a solution by negotiation, enquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement, resort to regional agencies or arrangements, or other peaceful means of their own choice.

and what the penalties are?

This:



Outlaw states, like any criminal, must be subject to a police response to enforce compliance with the laws civilization has decided upon for the rational and just governance of relations between nations and the peaceful settlement of disputes. Britain can't keep up this policy of intransigence forever. Eventually the patience of the modern, law-abiding nations of the world will wear thin and a police force will be assembled.

[saxitoxin]

The liberation of Las Malvinas moves from Dream to Inevitability as events of the world help the peoples of South America march forward toward the destiny that awaits them and the final chapter of 600 sad years of colonialism.

UK Army to Lose 17 Units

The Army will lose 17 major units as it cuts 20,000 regular soldiers, the defence secretary has said. Philip Hammond told MPs that the units to go included four infantry battalions and two sections in the Armoured Corps. The number of regular soldiers is set to fall from 102,000 to 82,000. The Army will be about half the size it was during the Cold War era - it had more than 163,000 troops in 1978.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18716101

[BigBallinStalin]

International Law?

Care to quote the clause pertinent to this dispute, where Britain is in breach of it,

David Cameron responding to a rational and diplomatic call for bilateral discussion from the United Nations by frothing at the mouth and ranting like a mad man about blasting Argentina to smitherines is a violation of Article 33, Section 1 of the UN charter:

The parties to any dispute, the continuance of which is likely to endanger the maintenance of international peace and security, shall, first of all, seek a solution by negotiation, enquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement, resort to regional agencies or arrangements, or other peaceful means of their own choice.

and what the penalties are?

This:



Outlaw states, like any criminal, must be subject to a police response to enforce compliance with the laws civilization has decided upon for the rational and just governance of relations between nations and the peaceful settlement of disputes. Britain can't keep up this policy of intransigence forever. Eventually the patience of the modern, law-abiding nations of the world will wear thin and a police force will be assembled.

I didn't agree to those international laws. Should they still be binding even though no one cared to ask for my consent?

[Symmetry]

One would hope that the UN would abide by basic principles of self-determination, rather than the ethnic cleansing of an island.

[saxitoxin]

One would hope that the UN would abide by basic principles of self-determination, rather than the ethnic cleansing of a nation.

They did - I already posted this a page ago; the UN has decided to endorse the right of self-determination of the Argentine people specifically, and the 400 million people of Latin America, generally.

People Before Profits
People Before Pirates

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=162628&start=285#p3778193

[Symmetry]

One would hope that the UN would abide by basic principles of self-determination, rather than the ethnic cleansing of a nation.

They did - I already posted this a page ago; the UN has decided to endorse the right of self-determination of the Argentine people specifically, and the 400 million people of Latin America, generally -

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=162628&start=285#p3778193

Your support for ethnic cleansing of the Falklands is well documented within the thread, and elsewhere. That I oppose your favoured policy is also well documented.

The Argentine people already have the right to self determination, that they don't have the right to determine the rights of others is kind of the point.

[saxitoxin]

One would hope that the UN would abide by basic principles of self-determination, rather than the ethnic cleansing of a nation.

They did - I already posted this a page ago; the UN has decided to endorse the right of self-determination of the Argentine people specifically, and the 400 million people of Latin America, generally -

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=162628&start=285#p3778193

Your support for ethnic cleansing of the Falklands is well documented within the thread, and elsewhere. That I oppose your favoured policy is also well documented.

I support the rule of law. The United Nations is the maker of law.

You don't support the rule of law. Therefore, you support piracy.

Symmetry and friends discussing Las Malvinas.

[Symmetry]

One would hope that the UN would abide by basic principles of self-determination, rather than the ethnic cleansing of a nation.

They did - I already posted this a page ago; the UN has decided to endorse the right of self-determination of the Argentine people specifically, and the 400 million people of Latin America, generally -

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=162628&start=285#p3778193

Your support for ethnic cleansing of the Falklands is well documented within the thread, and elsewhere. That I oppose your favoured policy is also well documented.

I support the rule of law. The United Nations is the maker of law.

You don't support the rule of law. Therefore, you support piracy.

Would you like to see the people of the Falkland Islands, who you describe as "squatters", cleansed from the Falklands?

[GreecePwns]

Saxi, the solution is easy. Argentina should export its people to the island and hold a referendum, immediately upon gaining the majority in population.

oh no, they must wait a few generations. only then does occupation of a foreign land become legal and or widely recognized. It works in Cyprus and in Israel, why not here?

Funny. There's one common factor in all three of these cases.

[saxitoxin]

One would hope that the UN would abide by basic principles of self-determination, rather than the ethnic cleansing of a nation.

They did - I already posted this a page ago; the UN has decided to endorse the right of self-determination of the Argentine people specifically, and the 400 million people of Latin America, generally -

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=162628&start=285#p3778193

Your support for ethnic cleansing of the Falklands is well documented within the thread, and elsewhere. That I oppose your favoured policy is also well documented.

I support the rule of law. The United Nations is the maker of law.

You don't support the rule of law. Therefore, you support piracy.

Would you like to see the people of the Falkland Islands, who you describe as "squatters", cleansed from the Falklands?

Yes. Surely I've been pretty clear on that point?

In every country in the world, every day, squatters are evicted after a thorough and thoughtful court ruling. To date, only one group of squatters has threatened to use nuclear weapons to avoid paying their back rent (the kelpers).

[Symmetry]

Saxi, the solution is easy. Argentina should export its people to the island and hold a referendum, immediately upon gaining the majority in population.

oh no, they must wait a few generations. only then does occupation of a foreign land become legal and or widely recognized. It works in Cyprus and in Israel, why not here?

Not many Argentinians actually want to live on the Falkland Islands? Plus Argentina kind of placed a load of restrictions on people visiting the islands, and demanded that other South American countries do the same.

The restrictions ain't on the British side, and certainly not on the side of the Falkland Islanders.

[saxitoxin]

Saxi, the solution is easy. Argentina should export its people to the island and hold a referendum, immediately upon gaining the majority in population.

oh no, they must wait a few generations. only then does occupation of a foreign land become legal and or widely recognized. It works in Cyprus and in Israel, why not here?

Not many Argentinians actually want to live on the Falkland Islands? Plus Argentina kind of placed a load of restrictions on people visiting the islands, and demanded that other South American countries do the same.

The restrictions ain't on the British side, and certainly not on the side of the Falkland Islanders.

That's a lie, GP is correct. Immigration is controlled by the UK regime. Despite the fact that more than half of the squatters weren't even born there, Argentines are not permitted to immigrate to Malvinas for purposes of permanent settlement. The UK regime has to make sure the votes are there for their silly banana republic referendums in their puppet colony.

[Symmetry]

GP, you may as well be blaming the Greek government for restricted access to Cyprus. The Brits and the Falklanders aren't the ones restricting travel and migration.

[saxitoxin]

The Brits and the Falklanders aren't the ones restricting travel and migration.

Repeating this a bunch of times doesn't make it true.

[Symmetry]

Actually, Saxi has a point tied up in his demand for ethnic cleansing- there are of course laws governing migration. Just that they ain't quite the crazy racist stuff he wants.

[saxitoxin]

Why are Argentines - or "Diegos" as the racist Britons refer to them - not permitted to immigrate to Las Malvinas?

It is necessary to live in the Islands for a minimum of seven years before individuals can apply for a permanent residents' permit or Falkland Islands status, and this has to be approved by the Executive Council.

http://www.falklands.gov.fk/media/respo ... t-2002.htm

This is the world's tightest immigration policy and there's only one reason it exists. Keep the Diegos out. As hysterically lunatic as the U.S. is about Mexicans it's not 1/10th as tough as the British Occupation Government is about Argentines.

[GreecePwns]

Regardless, that isn't my point. Your argument is that "oh the imported people have been there long enough, so its okay."

Its not okay here, or in Cyprus, or in Palestine (whether were talking about the original borders or the de facto extension of those borders though the "settlements")

It seems Britain us always at the center of these imported people scams.

[Symmetry]

Why are Argentines - or "Diegos" as the racist Britons refer to them - not permitted to immigrate to Las Malvinas?

It is necessary to live in the Islands for a minimum of seven years before individuals can apply for a permanent residents' permit or Falkland Islands status, and this has to be approved by the Executive Council.

http://www.falklands.gov.fk/media/respo ... t-2002.htm

You are incorrect, racist Brits would go with "Argies".

But I'm glad that you accept that there is indeed a process for Argentinians to become Falkland Islanders, if they so wish.

[saxitoxin]

IOW - the government that refuses to even negotiate is in charge of picking exactly who gets to vote in their referendums. I bet Saxi could be elected Governor of California if I were allowed to pick everyone who were allowed to vote in the election.

Hilarious.

That's why the UN said they're not planning to take the rubber-stamp referendum seriously.

But I'm glad that you accept that there is indeed a process for Argentinians to become Falkland Islanders, if they so wish.

No, there isn't.There is no rule of law or equality before the law. Naturalization is limited to the discretionary authority of the all-Anglo "Executive Council" using standards it determines and is not required to publish or subject to objective review.

It's a whites-only water fountain.

[Chariot of Fire]

The Brits and the Falklanders aren't the ones restricting travel and migration.

Repeating this a bunch of times doesn't make it true.

So why keep visiting this thread and perpetuating your overtly anti-British sentiments. Learn some history first you ignoramus.

Pedro seems to think you're some intellectual genius with brilliant insight into all things worldly.

Me, I just think you're a c**t looking for a rise out of people. Why else would you harp on about this (when you're neither Argentinian nor have a vested interest in the resolution)?

As for GreecePwns.....yeah, what? A massive debt. Get a job you slacker.

[GreecePwns]

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

[saxitoxin]

when you're neither Argentinian nor have a vested interest in the resolution

You and Symmetry aren't Argentine either and you seem to be pretty interested.

[Symmetry]

Regardless, that isn't my point. Your argument is that "oh the imported people have been there long enough, so its okay."

Its not okay here, or in Cyprus, or in Palestine (whether were talking about the original borders or the de facto extension of those borders though the "settlements")

It seems Britain us always at the center of these imported people scams.

Your point seems to be that everyone else is to blame based on their nationality. That Cyprus has nothing to do with anything else, and is a nation of victims that needs ethnic cleansing.

I'm sorry if I complicate your views by sometimes sympathizing, but not always falling quite in lock step with the purges you propose out of some sense of geographical racial purity, but I do tend to listen to the people who are there and try to think of practical solutions.

[saxitoxin]

Also, just an aside, Argentines tend to - generally speaking - be more physically attractive than Britons. Generally just a much fitter people. That's not totally on-topic for the thread but it bears noting as it may be indicative of a psycho-sexual component in the xenophobia of the squatters.

[GreecePwns]

Here's a practical solution to the Cyprus issue: the Turks that ate currently squaring in the property owned by my friends dad, effectively preventing him from having any access to it? kick them out, and do the same to the rest of the illegally squatted property in northern Cyprus. Because that's what's happening and you couldn't care to consider that on your view.