Orwellian USA

[BigBallinStalin]

So, the point of citations is to allow us to verify if your claim is true, and you could have misinterpreted your own sources, but why bother with showing any sources, right? What kind of position does that place you in?

[Woodruff]

So, the point of citations is to allow us to verify if your claim is true, and you could have misinterpreted your own sources, but why bother with showing any sources, right? What kind of position does that place you in?

They're in this thread.

[Phatscotty]

Wayne Allyn Root is a former Libertarian Vice Presidential nominee, successful entrepreneur, small business defender, business speaker, Capital Evangelist, and media personality- appearing on over 5000 interviews in the past 5 years. Wayne’s latest book is: The Ultimate Obama Survival Guide: How to Survive, Thrive, and Prosper During Obamageddon. It hit #1 in bookstores, and is currently the 6th bestselling political hardcover in America for the past year. Wayne’s web site: ROOTforAmerica.com.

It is increasingly clear that the 2012 elections, both presidential and senate, were stolen by Obama, the Democratic Party, the IRS, and government employee unions. It’s right out of a mob movie like “The Godfather.”

The Obama Crime Family could give the mob lessons. Don Obama plays for keeps. The Don gets what he wants and when he found himself in danger of losing his power and control, Obama went to his enforcers – the IRS.

In a story reminiscent of the mob fixing union elections, the IRS enforcers conspired to destroy Don Obama’s main competition – the Tea Parties and other conservative fundraising groups.

Lois Lerner was only one of many IRS big shots in DC who gave orders to IRS offices across the U.S. to “kill” the Tea Parties and other conservative groups. Their goal – steal the election. As if only days ago, the “fall gal” retired from the IRS. We can only guess what kind of massive payoff she received from Obama’s donors.

The 2010 elections were the biggest embarrassment suffered by a U.S. President in modern history. The power, energy and passion of the Tea Party won the GOP an amazing 63 House seats, six Senate seats, six Governorships, and 680 seats in state legislatures. It was an historic landslide. Obama’s entire agenda was threatened.

Yet, the mainstream media expects us to believe that only two years later (2012) that Tea Party energy and passion was gone…overnight. Or, perhaps they changed back to fans of Obama and the Democratic Party. What a fairytale.

The real story is that the Obama administration ordered the IRS to delay, distract, hound, harass, and intimidate Tea Party groups across the U.S. Without IRS attacks and interference, Tea Parties would have had the same influence and momentum as 2010 – when their raging energy and passion led to a shocking landslide defeat for Obama and his allies.

There is no need to question or debate any longer. We now have emails from IRS officials stating exactly that – the Tea Parties had to be stopped if Democrats wanted to win the election.

And, conservative donations had to be stalled if Democrats wanted to retain control of the U.S. Senate.

Instead of massive Tea Party rallies and record-setting fundraising for conservative candidates, Tea Party groups were busy being distracted, hounded, harassed, and intimidated by the IRS. They were busy being asked about the names of their members, names of their speakers, content of their Facebook posts, and even the content of their prayers.

Conservative media personalities (like yours truly) were attacked with IRS audits, as were Pro-Life, Pro-Israel, and Pro-Constitution groups. The tax-deductible status of Tea Party groups was purposely stalled so they could not raise money for the 2012 election.

What the biased liberal mainstream media refuses to do is connect the dots. None have the courage to state that “the fix” was in. That a fraud perpetrated by government employees handed control of the United States of America to Obama, a politician who supports government employees and their unions.

What did the IRS get out of this? The answer is pure bribery. Republicans, and especially Tea Parties, believe in limited government, smaller budgets, fewer government employees, and cutting bloated salaries, obscene pensions, and early retirement for government employees. Another Tea Party landslide would have threatened the power of government employee unions. Many government employees would have been laid off.

Does anyone believe it a coincidence that Obama met with IRS union boss Colleen Kelley at the White House the day before the targeting of Tea Parties by the IRS began? If you do, I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.

Barack Obama was fraudulently re-elected. Our country was hijacked by government employees protecting their cushy lifetime jobs, bloated salaries, obscene pensions, and powerful unions.

Think I’m wrong? Evidently IRS officials don’t. Several of them have been busy hiring famous and expensive law firms to defend themselves.

Where are they getting the money? Is Obama arranging for big Democratic donors like George Soros, or union political funds, to pay their legal bills? Is Obama scared to death of what these IRS bosses will say under oath? Could their testimony end his Presidency and destroy his legacy?

In the end it’s clear to anyone who hasn’t been brainwashed by government schools or bribed by government checks that the 2012 election was fraudulently stolen by Barack Obama.

What did Obama, Democrats, and the IRS gain?

1. The right to continue to loot the treasury with bailouts, stimulus, corporate welfare, and government contracts to his friends, donors, loyal media lackeys, and corrupt union bosses.

2. The right to continue to redistribute income from the business owners (who vote Republican) to Obama’s voters (the poor, unions, and government employees).

3. The ability to save Obamacare and unionize 15 million healthcare workers – thereby raising $15 billion in union dues to elect Democrats. And of course to overwhelm middle class families with $20,000 annual health insurance bills they can’t pay, thereby addicting them to government handouts.

4. The IRS itself gains tremendously. They are now in charge of policing Obamacare – a huge, new bureaucracy. It also adds thousands of new IRS agents, thereby greatly enriching the IRS union.

5. The opportunity to pass immigration amnesty, thereby producing 10 to 20 million new loyal Democratic voters.

6. The opportunity to bankrupt business owners and permanently weaken the private sector, thereby drying up donations for conservative candidates and causes.

7. The opportunity to weaken American influence internationally (see Egypt, Libya, Syria).

Obama’s re-election also means he may serve long enough to appoint one or two more Supreme Court justices, whose radical leftist views will ensure America is permanently transformed to a big government socialist nation.

This wasn’t just any theft, folks. It was a trillion dollar theft. The Obama Crime Family (so far) has gotten away with the greatest and most daring act of fraud in world history. They stole the election.

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[Nobunaga]

White House, IRS exchanged confidential taxpayer info

http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/09/white ... ayer-info/

... Up to 5 years in prison is the standard sentence ....

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[Teflon Kris]

Looks like parts of the US government are trying to stop neo-nazis, nice one!

Shame they are too scared to publicise it, but not surprising given many generations of intense ideological battering their populace have been subjected to.

[Phatscotty]

Looks like parts of the US government are trying to stop neo-nazis, nice one!

Shame they are too scared to publicise it, but not surprising given many generations of intense ideological battering their populace have been subjected to.

Those guys are lonely. They want to be with their hero.

[Nobunaga]

Off the IRS specifically now, going for more of a "Big Picture" here.

Travelers at airports throughout the US are now met with this friendly message, via loudspeaker, from the TSA:

“You are also reminded that any inappropriate remarks or jokes concerning security may result in your arrest.”

... Sounds like obedience training, and a direct violation of the 1st Amendment. - "You can be disappeared if you dare speak out of turn - yes, even if it's a joke".

The intent seems obvious - Intimidate travelers and stop them from complaining about aggressive genital grabs, and the ridiculousness of TSA procedures.

[Phatscotty]

Same exact thing Nixon was impeached for; the race card has no power here.

http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/i ... -scandal/#

I Have the Smoking Gun in Obama’s IRS Scandal

The buck stops with the Obama White House. They had all the power and the motive. That’s where the criminal act occurred. I believe the Obama White House not only directed this widespread witch-hunt…not just of me…but of hundreds of other critics of the President and major GOP donors.

Then when the Obama White House got caught in a criminal conspiracy, they tried to distract the media with the Tea Party story…and blame “the little guys” at the IRS. Suddenly lower level employees just following orders were “rogue agents.” How low can you go? The IRS was used by Obama and then thrown under the bus. These agents are victims too of an out of control tyrant as President.

Watergate proved even the president isn’t above the law. This IRS scandal may yet prove Obama isn’t too big to jail.

[BigBallinStalin]

Ummmmmmmm, where's the hard evidence?

[Phatscotty]

Ummmmmmmm, where's the hard evidence?

seemingly clenched way up in lerners buttcheeks

[mrswdk]

I heard 9/11 was orchestrated by Obama and his cronies. They knew a terrorist attack on such an enormous scale had the potential to create a strong anti-Islam backlash. This backlash would, in turn, create a counter-surge of politically correct 'positive discrimination' so strong that it would be capable of carrying absolutely any minority candidate into power.

The rest, as they say, is history.

Source: his middle name.

[Phatscotty]

Who didn't see this one coming? I'm sure there are a few...

IRS Says Official's Emails Were Lost in Computer Crash

WASHINGTON—The Internal Revenue Service said a former official's 2011 computer crash significantly hampered its efforts to dig up correspondence requested as part of a congressional review of the agency's treatment of conservative groups.

The IRS said it is providing more emails to lawmakers and is doing its best to reconstruct correspondence from the former executive, Lois Lerner, who retired as the controversy unfolded last year. Its effort, which has included searching email of other senders and recipients, resulted in an additional 24,000 emails that are being provided to lawmakers, the agency said in a summary of its actions.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/irs-prov ... 1402684543

[danfrank666]

Who didn't see this one coming? I'm sure there are a few...

IRS Says Official's Emails Were Lost in Computer Crash

WASHINGTON—The Internal Revenue Service said a former official's 2011 computer crash significantly hampered its efforts to dig up correspondence requested as part of a congressional review of the agency's treatment of conservative groups.

The IRS said it is providing more emails to lawmakers and is doing its best to reconstruct correspondence from the former executive, Lois Lerner, who retired as the controversy unfolded last year. Its effort, which has included searching email of other senders and recipients, resulted in an additional 24,000 emails that are being provided to lawmakers, the agency said in a summary of its actions.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/irs-prov ... 1402684543

The key word being RECONSTRUCT.

[Phatscotty]

[a6mzero]

The Bush whitehouse lost 22 MILLION emails during the Valerie Plame investigation. Did all u wingnuts work yourself up into a frothing at the mouth rage then? Or do u only froth at the mouth when the people put a Democrat in office?

[Phatscotty]

The Bush whitehouse lost 22 MILLION emails during the Valerie Plame investigation. Did all u wingnuts work yourself up into a frothing at the mouth rage then? Or do u only froth at the mouth when the people put a Democrat in office?

plamegate was the first post of and inspiration for my old blog.....this wut make u dark wingnut

you are more concerned with how you assume what someone else didn't feel, and you don't give a shit about the problem itself. All it takes is a basic sense of right and wrong, yet you are still confused.

[a6mzero]

I'm not confused at all.U profess to be a "Tea Partier" the very group which protests at the whitehouse waving a confederate flag. I think the image speaks for itself about why the tea party and u are so enraged by the president.

[a6mzero]

Conservative causes:1] Who u are screwing 2] The definition of rape 3] banning the morning after pill

[Metsfanmax]

I'm not confused at all.U profess to be a "Tea Partier" the very group which protests at the whitehouse waving a confederate flag. I think the image speaks for itself about why the tea party and u are so enraged by the president.

Now now, Phatscotty is not a racist. He has called out many times the folks who voted for Obama based only on the color of his skin. After all, that was the first time in history that voters based their choices on the race of the candidates.

[a6mzero]

I'm not confused at all.U profess to be a "Tea Partier" the very group which protests at the whitehouse waving a confederate flag. I think the image speaks for itself about why the tea party and u are so enraged by the president.

Now now, Phatscotty is not a racist. He has called out many times the folks who voted for Obama based only on the color of his skin. After all, that was the first time in history that voters based their choices on the race of the candidates.

However it was not the first time in history voters based their choice on which race the candidate was against.

[mrswdk]

It's possible to complain about another person's racism while being racist yourself. Just sayin'.

[Phatscotty]

until you guys acknowledge the exponential growth in government size and power, the national debt, the annual deficit, quantative easing, tax levels present and future, you aren't even brushing the surface of Tea Party Conservatism and you are purposefully trying to misrepresent the issue. I understand it's all you're good at.

Shows me you can't handle the truth; you'll do anything to avoid the issues. YOU are the people who can ONLY talk about race. It's sad.

[patches70]

Accepting reality isn't human being's strong point PS. I find it hilarious that Lerner and the administration can say with a straight face " we lost all those computer records you wanted, Congress. So sorry about that."

But there isn't much that can be done about it unfortunately. At the least I would hope that everyone would finally accept the truth that Obama is a lying sack of corrupt shit. I remember back in the day when Nixon blamed that Rosemary lady for the missing 16 minutes of Watergate tapes. Everyone knew Nixon was full of shit. How Obama can survive politcally with scandal after scandal, lie after lie, it boggles my mind.

I guess the only "go to" defense is "RACIST!"

It's pathetic and Obama's bullshit is indefensible. But he is the least of the nation's worries, for sure. Obama is just tossing more gas on the house fire that is the United States. He' s not the only one roasting marshmellows. It is what it is, I just wish people would stop acting like trained dogs and defending the guy for doing the same shit and worse that they used to bitch about Bush.

[Phatscotty]

looks like they just needed to stall for a while. The emails, hundreds of millions of them, will not be ready to examine for about 18 months

IRS Finally Examines Backup Tapes, Recovers 30,000 'Missing' Lois Lerner Emails

by Tim Cushing

Whether or not the IRS is subjecting certain politically-affiliated groups to an unfair amount of attention remains to be seen. What is indisputable is that the agency's document retention policies are an unenforced joke. As citizens, we're required to hold onto pertinent financial records for 2-7 years just in case the IRS wants to look through them. The IRS, however, seemingly only retains records for as long as it can keep itself from inadvertently destroying them.

Emails from IRS official Lois Lerner have been sought for several months. At first, the IRS said it had them. Then it said it couldn't find them. Then it said Lerner's computer suffered a hard drive crash, taking with it a bunch of the emails being sought. Then it said more computers had crashed, taking out even more emails. Then it said it had recycled the crashed hard drives, making any data unrecoverable.

Questions were asked, most of them being "Bro, do you even back up files to a server?" Apparently, the IRS did no such thing, or was unaware of it, or didn't understand the question… and so on. The IRS admitted it told officials to print out and save emails (per internal guidance) but apparently no one took these rules very seriously, as there was no hard copy to be found either. A Justice Department official noted that there were backups, but that it was too hard to recover stuff from them, before dozing off in mid-sentence.

Now, all of a sudden (well, actually on a pre-Thanksgiving week Friday afternoon), the IRS has suddenly found the emails it claimed were lost.
Up to 30,000 missing emails sent by former Internal Revenue Service official Lois Lerner have been recovered by the IRS inspector general, five months after they were deemed lost forever.

The U.S. Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA) informed congressional staffers from several committees on Friday that the emails were found among hundreds of “disaster recovery tapes” that were used to back up the IRS email system.
The prodigal Lerner emails have returned! And there was much rejoicing, especially in Darrell Issa's camp, which has been applying much of the pressure over the past several months.

It will still be some time before these emails are turned over, however. The investigators looked through 744 disaster recovery tapes, holding an estimated 250 million emails and says it will be a few weeks before the recovered emails are in a readable format. If this goes at the usual speed of government, it will be next year before the emails even make their way into the hands of the investigating committee, and longer than that before the public can take a look for itself.

The good news is that despite the IRS's internal failures, the system still mostly worked. A backup backed up files and (after much hassling) an internal investigation recovered most of what had been declared officially missing. It's almost enough to restore your faith in the IRS (and the government as a whole), except for almost everything else about the IRS (and the government as a whole).

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=48850

[BigBallinStalin]

Who didn't see this one coming? I'm sure there are a few...

IRS Says Official's Emails Were Lost in Computer Crash

WASHINGTON—The Internal Revenue Service said a former official's 2011 computer crash significantly hampered its efforts to dig up correspondence requested as part of a congressional review of the agency's treatment of conservative groups.

The IRS said it is providing more emails to lawmakers and is doing its best to reconstruct correspondence from the former executive, Lois Lerner, who retired as the controversy unfolded last year. Its effort, which has included searching email of other senders and recipients, resulted in an additional 24,000 emails that are being provided to lawmakers, the agency said in a summary of its actions.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/irs-prov ... 1402684543

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=190624&view=unread#p4503982

So, I've been following the IRS scandal, and it's pretty egregious how much evidence has become 'unrecoverable'.

After skimming through the thread past July, I loved to see how many posters avoided challenging their faith in government bureaucracy and instead let themselves get distracted with ad hominem arguments about PS or Bush. Pretty weak, y'all.