The Dark Knight Rises: DVD release Dec 4th

[BigBallinStalin]

I can only pray that the mind-controlled Es was destroyed in the fire. Never leave enemies behind you. You know this, man!

[notyou2]

Can I have your sandwich? I'm not allergic to mayonnaise.

[Phatscotty]

PHAT trilogy video!



I have to say, the Dark Knight Rises is easily the best movie I have seen since I don't know when. Better than Inception, better than Watchmen, better than Momento. Even better than The Dark Knight. But it won't be in theaters forever! And I highly recommend seeing it in IMAX.

[tkr4lf]

Eh, it was okay. I thought the ending was pretty lame.

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I liked the second one much better.

I dunno, maybe the fact that I watched a pirated copy that some dude camcorded in a movie theater colored my view of the movie. Some parts were hard to see/hear. I'll give it another try once it comes out on DVD. Maybe seeing it in its intended state will make the movie better, but I doubt it. All in all, not that impressed.

[Haggis_McMutton]

Eh, it was okay. I thought the ending was pretty lame.

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I liked the second one much better.

+1

Typical fairy tale ending yet again. WHAT A SHOCKER

At least everyone can go home feeling all warm and fuzzy and shit.

[Phatscotty]

Eh, it was okay. I thought the ending was pretty lame.

show: SPOILER

I liked the second one much better.

+1

Typical fairy tale ending yet again. WHAT A SHOCKER

At least everyone can go home feeling all warm and fuzzy and shit.

They needed to leave it open though, for what obviously will be a new franchise.

[Symmetry]

This is right up there with PhatScotty thinking Watchmen was conservative. Baffling, and indicative of him being asleep through most of it.

[tkr4lf]

Eh, it was okay. I thought the ending was pretty lame.

show: SPOILER

I liked the second one much better.

+1

Typical fairy tale ending yet again. WHAT A SHOCKER

At least everyone can go home feeling all warm and fuzzy and shit.

They needed to leave it open though, for what obviously will be a new franchise.

Leave it open for what?

Nolan already said this was the last Batman movie he would be making. I read that the dude who played Batman was willing to sign on for another one, but only if Nolan is directing it, which he won't be. A much better way to end his trilogy of batman movies would have been for...

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[Phatscotty]

Eh, it was okay. I thought the ending was pretty lame.

show: SPOILER

I liked the second one much better.

+1

Typical fairy tale ending yet again. WHAT A SHOCKER

At least everyone can go home feeling all warm and fuzzy and shit.

They needed to leave it open though, for what obviously will be a new franchise.

Leave it open for what?

Nolan already said this was the last Batman movie he would be making. I read that the dude who played Batman was willing to sign on for another one, but only if Nolan is directing it, which he won't be. A much better way to end his trilogy of batman movies would have been for...

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Right, but it's not like it's the last Batman movie to ever be made. They are leaving it open for the Robin Movie, or whatever the hell they are going to call it.

[tkr4lf]

The Robin movie? Who actually wants to watch a movie about just Robin? Robin is the lamest superhero ever...even Aquaman beats Robin in coolness, and that's pretty sad. He's not even really a superhero, he's a sidekick. Seriously, that movie would blow.

If somebody else decides to pick up Batman and make some new movies, I'd much rather they have a whole new take on it. I'd rather they do their own thing instead of trying to carry on Nolan's gritty, more plausible/realistic version of Batman. And with that in mind, Nolan could/should have easily ended his trilogy the proper way, instead of, as Haggis so eloquently put it, the fairy tale ending.

It would be entirely possible for Nolan to have him die, and there still be more Batman movies made. Nolan's trilogy is quite separate from the older Batman movies, so why couldn't new ones be made that are entirely separate from Nolan's? What I'm saying is, wanting to make sure that future movies can be made by somebody else is no excuse for a crappy ending in the present movie.

[Phatscotty]

The Robin movie? Who actually wants to watch a movie about just Robin? Robin is the lamest superhero ever...even Aquaman beats Robin in coolness, and that's pretty sad. He's not even really a superhero, he's a sidekick. Seriously, that movie would blow.

If somebody else decides to pick up Batman and make some new movies, I'd much rather they have a whole new take on it. I'd rather they do their own thing instead of trying to carry on Nolan's gritty, more plausible/realistic version of Batman. And with that in mind, Nolan could/should have easily ended his trilogy the proper way, instead of, as Haggis so eloquently put it, the fairy tale ending.

It would be entirely possible for Nolan to have him die, and there still be more Batman movies made. Nolan's trilogy is quite separate from the older Batman movies, so why couldn't new ones be made that are entirely separate from Nolan's? What I'm saying is, wanting to make sure that future movies can be made by somebody else is no excuse for a crappy ending in the present movie.

The new ones will be made in the future, separate from Chris Nolan.....which is why Chris Nolan is not allowed to KILL Bruce Wayne/Batman. Nobody really get to mess with a franchise like this. You leave it open.

You can still think the ending coulda been a lot better, I'm just giving my thoughts and what I have read about why it ended how it did, at least I think that's what Nolan said when asked the same question...

[Symmetry]

Meh- why bother continuing the franchise. 3 is enough and 1 more than most franchises manage to do well.

Let Chris Nolan get back to doing his other movies.

[Phatscotty]

Meh- why bother continuing the franchise. 3 is enough and 1 more than most franchises manage to do well.

Let Chris Nolan get back to doing his other movies.

3? In the "franchise" there are probably 8 or 9 now

[Symmetry]

Meh- why bother continuing the franchise. 3 is enough and 1 more than most franchises manage to do well.

Let Chris Nolan get back to doing his other movies.

3? In the "franchise" there are probably 8 or 9 now

Nah- Batman wise, two for Tim Burton before the franchise went to crap. Two good Spiderman's. Two good x-men movies.

3 is the killer.

[tkr4lf]

The Robin movie? Who actually wants to watch a movie about just Robin? Robin is the lamest superhero ever...even Aquaman beats Robin in coolness, and that's pretty sad. He's not even really a superhero, he's a sidekick. Seriously, that movie would blow.

If somebody else decides to pick up Batman and make some new movies, I'd much rather they have a whole new take on it. I'd rather they do their own thing instead of trying to carry on Nolan's gritty, more plausible/realistic version of Batman. And with that in mind, Nolan could/should have easily ended his trilogy the proper way, instead of, as Haggis so eloquently put it, the fairy tale ending.

It would be entirely possible for Nolan to have him die, and there still be more Batman movies made. Nolan's trilogy is quite separate from the older Batman movies, so why couldn't new ones be made that are entirely separate from Nolan's? What I'm saying is, wanting to make sure that future movies can be made by somebody else is no excuse for a crappy ending in the present movie.

The new ones will be made in the future, separate from Chris Nolan.....which is why Chris Nolan is not allowed to KILL Bruce Wayne/Batman. Nobody really get to mess with a franchise like this. You leave it open.

You can still think the ending coulda been a lot better, I'm just giving my thoughts and what I have read about why it ended how it did, at least I think that's what Nolan said when asked the same question...

Ok...here's what I don't get. Why can't Nolan kill his Batman? Obviously, there are different Batman universes, since Catwoman was already done in the second Batman movie, Bane was already killed in Batman & Robin, Harvey Dent aka Two Face was already played by Tommy Lee Jones, etc. And the funny thing is, most if not all of these characters that were done in the previous series had way different back stories than they did in this new series.

The previous 4 movies are completely separate from Nolan's movies. It's like those first 4 movies are one iteration of Batman, while Nolan's 3 movies are a separate iteration of Batman. So, if Nolan did kill Batman off (which he should have), then somebody else could just start up their own iteration of Batman. There is no continuity between series. Seriously, did you notice any continuity between the first 4 Batman films and these last 3? No? I didn't think so. They are completely different stories of Batman. So it would be ok, in the sense that it wouldn't effect anybody else's potential Batman stories, if Nolan had killed Batman off.

In fact, if I'm not mistaken, I'm pretty sure Batman has died before in the comic books. Yet he still keeps on trucking. It's almost as if people can just make up their own stories about Batman regardless of what other people have written before...

[tkr4lf]

Meh- why bother continuing the franchise. 3 is enough and 1 more than most franchises manage to do well.

Let Chris Nolan get back to doing his other movies.

Chris Nolan has already said that he won't be making anymore Batman movies. TDKR was his final Batman movie, which is why I think he could have ended it so much better.

[Symmetry]

Meh- why bother continuing the franchise. 3 is enough and 1 more than most franchises manage to do well.

Let Chris Nolan get back to doing his other movies.

Chris Nolan has already said that he won't be making anymore Batman movies. TDKR was his final Batman movie, which is why I think he could have ended it so much better.

Johnny Depp once said he'd never do a sequel. Alas we have the Pirates of the Caribbean movies.

[tkr4lf]

Meh- why bother continuing the franchise. 3 is enough and 1 more than most franchises manage to do well.

Let Chris Nolan get back to doing his other movies.

Chris Nolan has already said that he won't be making anymore Batman movies. TDKR was his final Batman movie, which is why I think he could have ended it so much better.

Johnny Depp once said he'd never do a sequel. Alas we have the Pirates of the Caribbean movies.

True, I guess, but for now, all we have to go on is what he said. He made a big deal about how this was the last one. Hopefully he follows through and doesn't make another one.

He should have just stopped at The Dark Knight. I honestly don't think anybody can ever top Heath Ledger as the Joker as a Batman villain. He played that role perfectly.

[Phatscotty]

The film ending is up to interpretation. The audience gets to make the decisions and the choices. You get out of the ending whatever you brought into it.

[Phatscotty]

The Robin movie? Who actually wants to watch a movie about just Robin? Robin is the lamest superhero ever...even Aquaman beats Robin in coolness, and that's pretty sad. He's not even really a superhero, he's a sidekick. Seriously, that movie would blow.

If somebody else decides to pick up Batman and make some new movies, I'd much rather they have a whole new take on it. I'd rather they do their own thing instead of trying to carry on Nolan's gritty, more plausible/realistic version of Batman. And with that in mind, Nolan could/should have easily ended his trilogy the proper way, instead of, as Haggis so eloquently put it, the fairy tale ending.

It would be entirely possible for Nolan to have him die, and there still be more Batman movies made. Nolan's trilogy is quite separate from the older Batman movies, so why couldn't new ones be made that are entirely separate from Nolan's? What I'm saying is, wanting to make sure that future movies can be made by somebody else is no excuse for a crappy ending in the present movie.

The new ones will be made in the future, separate from Chris Nolan.....which is why Chris Nolan is not allowed to KILL Bruce Wayne/Batman. Nobody really get to mess with a franchise like this. You leave it open.

You can still think the ending coulda been a lot better, I'm just giving my thoughts and what I have read about why it ended how it did, at least I think that's what Nolan said when asked the same question...

Ok...here's what I don't get. Why can't Nolan kill his Batman? Obviously, there are different Batman universes, since Catwoman was already done in the second Batman movie, Bane was already killed in Batman & Robin, Harvey Dent aka Two Face was already played by Tommy Lee Jones, etc. And the funny thing is, most if not all of these characters that were done in the previous series had way different back stories than they did in this new series.

The previous 4 movies are completely separate from Nolan's movies. It's like those first 4 movies are one iteration of Batman, while Nolan's 3 movies are a separate iteration of Batman. So, if Nolan did kill Batman off (which he should have), then somebody else could just start up their own iteration of Batman. There is no continuity between series. Seriously, did you notice any continuity between the first 4 Batman films and these last 3? No? I didn't think so. They are completely different stories of Batman. So it would be ok, in the sense that it wouldn't effect anybody else's potential Batman stories, if Nolan had killed Batman off.

In fact, if I'm not mistaken, I'm pretty sure Batman has died before in the comic books. Yet he still keeps on trucking. It's almost as if people can just make up their own stories about Batman regardless of what other people have written before...

I just simply think it would be bad for future "batman" business to "kill batman". I just don't have any hang-ups with how it ended, I though it was great. I have been thinking just because Nolan isn't going to make any more Batman movies does not mean he won't be making the Robin movie, and perhaps Bruce Wayne will have a part in that, as a mentor or sugar daddy.

[tkr4lf]

The Robin movie? Who actually wants to watch a movie about just Robin? Robin is the lamest superhero ever...even Aquaman beats Robin in coolness, and that's pretty sad. He's not even really a superhero, he's a sidekick. Seriously, that movie would blow.

If somebody else decides to pick up Batman and make some new movies, I'd much rather they have a whole new take on it. I'd rather they do their own thing instead of trying to carry on Nolan's gritty, more plausible/realistic version of Batman. And with that in mind, Nolan could/should have easily ended his trilogy the proper way, instead of, as Haggis so eloquently put it, the fairy tale ending.

It would be entirely possible for Nolan to have him die, and there still be more Batman movies made. Nolan's trilogy is quite separate from the older Batman movies, so why couldn't new ones be made that are entirely separate from Nolan's? What I'm saying is, wanting to make sure that future movies can be made by somebody else is no excuse for a crappy ending in the present movie.

The new ones will be made in the future, separate from Chris Nolan.....which is why Chris Nolan is not allowed to KILL Bruce Wayne/Batman. Nobody really get to mess with a franchise like this. You leave it open.

You can still think the ending coulda been a lot better, I'm just giving my thoughts and what I have read about why it ended how it did, at least I think that's what Nolan said when asked the same question...

Ok...here's what I don't get. Why can't Nolan kill his Batman? Obviously, there are different Batman universes, since Catwoman was already done in the second Batman movie, Bane was already killed in Batman & Robin, Harvey Dent aka Two Face was already played by Tommy Lee Jones, etc. And the funny thing is, most if not all of these characters that were done in the previous series had way different back stories than they did in this new series.

The previous 4 movies are completely separate from Nolan's movies. It's like those first 4 movies are one iteration of Batman, while Nolan's 3 movies are a separate iteration of Batman. So, if Nolan did kill Batman off (which he should have), then somebody else could just start up their own iteration of Batman. There is no continuity between series. Seriously, did you notice any continuity between the first 4 Batman films and these last 3? No? I didn't think so. They are completely different stories of Batman. So it would be ok, in the sense that it wouldn't effect anybody else's potential Batman stories, if Nolan had killed Batman off.

In fact, if I'm not mistaken, I'm pretty sure Batman has died before in the comic books. Yet he still keeps on trucking. It's almost as if people can just make up their own stories about Batman regardless of what other people have written before...

I just simply think it would be bad for future "batman" business to "kill batman". I just don't have any hang-ups with how it ended, I though it was great. I have been thinking just because Nolan isn't going to make any more Batman movies does not mean he won't be making the Robin movie, and perhaps Bruce Wayne will have a part in that, as a mentor or sugar daddy.

Nice job ignoring my arguments and not addressing anything I said. Why am I surprised?

[Phatscotty]

The Robin movie? Who actually wants to watch a movie about just Robin? Robin is the lamest superhero ever...even Aquaman beats Robin in coolness, and that's pretty sad. He's not even really a superhero, he's a sidekick. Seriously, that movie would blow.

If somebody else decides to pick up Batman and make some new movies, I'd much rather they have a whole new take on it. I'd rather they do their own thing instead of trying to carry on Nolan's gritty, more plausible/realistic version of Batman. And with that in mind, Nolan could/should have easily ended his trilogy the proper way, instead of, as Haggis so eloquently put it, the fairy tale ending.

It would be entirely possible for Nolan to have him die, and there still be more Batman movies made. Nolan's trilogy is quite separate from the older Batman movies, so why couldn't new ones be made that are entirely separate from Nolan's? What I'm saying is, wanting to make sure that future movies can be made by somebody else is no excuse for a crappy ending in the present movie.

The new ones will be made in the future, separate from Chris Nolan.....which is why Chris Nolan is not allowed to KILL Bruce Wayne/Batman. Nobody really get to mess with a franchise like this. You leave it open.

You can still think the ending coulda been a lot better, I'm just giving my thoughts and what I have read about why it ended how it did, at least I think that's what Nolan said when asked the same question...

Ok...here's what I don't get. Why can't Nolan kill his Batman? Obviously, there are different Batman universes, since Catwoman was already done in the second Batman movie, Bane was already killed in Batman & Robin, Harvey Dent aka Two Face was already played by Tommy Lee Jones, etc. And the funny thing is, most if not all of these characters that were done in the previous series had way different back stories than they did in this new series.

The previous 4 movies are completely separate from Nolan's movies. It's like those first 4 movies are one iteration of Batman, while Nolan's 3 movies are a separate iteration of Batman. So, if Nolan did kill Batman off (which he should have), then somebody else could just start up their own iteration of Batman. There is no continuity between series. Seriously, did you notice any continuity between the first 4 Batman films and these last 3? No? I didn't think so. They are completely different stories of Batman. So it would be ok, in the sense that it wouldn't effect anybody else's potential Batman stories, if Nolan had killed Batman off.

In fact, if I'm not mistaken, I'm pretty sure Batman has died before in the comic books. Yet he still keeps on trucking. It's almost as if people can just make up their own stories about Batman regardless of what other people have written before...

I just simply think it would be bad for future "batman" business to "kill batman". I just don't have any hang-ups with how it ended, I though it was great. I have been thinking just because Nolan isn't going to make any more Batman movies does not mean he won't be making the Robin movie, and perhaps Bruce Wayne will have a part in that, as a mentor or sugar daddy.

Nice job ignoring my arguments and not addressing anything I said. Why am I surprised?

because they are both just opinions, and don't have to agree on everything? I heard what you said, I still think what I said. I did not know we were arguing.

[Woodruff]

For Phatscotty's honest enjoyment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ5l5ls0hP4&feature=player_embedded

[pancakemix]

My understanding was a Batman reboot was already in the works, with Nolan producing (not directing). He's already got his hands in the Superman franchise; it'll be interesting to see how that turns out.

[Phatscotty]

My understanding was a Batman reboot was already in the works, with Nolan producing (not directing). He's already got his hands in the Superman franchise; it'll be interesting to see how that turns out.

Very interesting hints in the teaser trailer. I was never a big Superman fan, hell, I don't even like comics or superhero movies. But what Christopher Nolan (Momento, Inception, Dark Knight series) and Zack Snyder (Watchmen, 300) are doing is EPIC.

Russel Crowe version


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