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Postby DaGip on Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:03 am

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dugcarr1
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xtra



except dugcarr1 got removed from the whole site, the rest just from the forums.

And I didn't mind xtra's ramblings, any more than anybody elses, I never saw him post porn.

I did see however, racist remarks... Which he did stop... And I saw him posting his conspiracy stuff in threads that had nothing to do with the topic of the thread. It seemed Like anyway he could get a word in about his strong convictions, he would.

I never saw any porn from kyle...

Norse however, I saw his racist stuff. I guess these guys are used as examples of what happens when the rules aren't followed.

I do know that what xtra was saying about not being told where he was making his mistakes and that has happened to many people.

I was told by Wicked that the mods are now letting people know where there offenses are when they receive a nasty gram from the mods.

As far as Xtra, he is like the people who are blowing up Abortion Clinics. He is dramatic and just wants everyone to know about the Government. He has been conditioned to be that way. Just like a cult. However, he would say that non-believers have been conditioned to believe everything the government says and turn a blind eye.

I saw he was asked politely by the Higher powers of CC to keep his views to only 1 thread, and he didn't do it.

I am not saying he deserves a ban, that is not up to me to decide thank goodness.

The Mods are running this site the way the owner wants them to do it. I think they do a good job, for only being human.

That's not saying I agree with banishment. I have no opinion. I don't like seeing people be banned though.


Norse got banned from CC all together, as well. For racism (forum ban) and being a multi (site ban).

Xtra, however, has never had any mod provide any evidence of him being a multi or posting pornography.

If Xtra was a multi, he would have been kicked off the site as well, but he hasn't...

And I don't see what Xtra did in his short time here that got Twill all worked up over? Xtra just posted a political thread and Twill decided to lock it down...that is absurd, maybe the rest of us wanted to continue on that subject?
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Re: Just why was/is xtratabasco banned?

Postby Dancing Mustard on Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:24 am

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Re: Just why was/is xtratabasco banned?

Postby nagerous on Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:34 am

Senfive wrote:suggs, and firth4eva on the other hand are not. They are a cancer that is not being taken care off.



Actually, I think these guys along with Norse and Xtra contribute a hell of a lot to the forums. Their posts entertain me and make me laugh sometimes. All I see from you is a constant whining, whinging and bitching. How is that contributing to the forum other than filling it further disputes and violence.
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Re: Just why was/is xtratabasco banned?

Postby DAZMCFC on Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:03 am

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Senfive wrote:suggs, and firth4eva on the other hand are not. They are a cancer that is not being taken care off.



Actually, I think these guys along with Norse and Xtra contribute a hell of a lot to the forums. Their posts entertain me and make me laugh sometimes. All I see from you is a constant whining, whinging and bitching. How is that contributing to the forum other than filling it further disputes and violence.



suggs is hilarious in his own peculiar way. as for firth, hisopening of the "clan Firth" was genius. he got 10 people and made a clan. none of these people actually agreed to join(including me), but somehow he blagged the mods into thinking hey had. :lol:
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Postby Neutrino on Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:06 am

Xtra was banned for trolling, mostly. The swearing was just the final straw. His 9/11 threads were never intended as serious discussion. Is there any difference between making 30 threads entitled "I like pie" and 30 of Xtra's 9/11 threads in which he never actually presented a counter-argument? After the first few threads of his arguments being demolished, he slipped into "go back and re-read" mode. Nothing after that was intended as a debate, because he knew he couldn't win those. Instead, they were intended to piss the debating community off. Normally, I wouldn't mind, but once it started going on for as long as it did, it fell firmly into the category of "trolling". And I, for one, am not sad to see trolls go.
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Postby TeeGee on Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:19 am

The mods need to be consistant and permaban everyone and anyone else guilty of the same offence.

In this case xtra was released, either deliberately or by mistake. My take on it is he should then be allowed to stay until such time he reoffends, sort of like parole or probation. Restrict his access to certain forums so that he can't offend, that is possible with this forum software.
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Postby greenoaks on Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:35 am

where i live it is quite common/acceptable to call someone a beaner to piss them off or belittle them.

but for us a beaner is an accountant.
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Postby MeDeFe on Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:01 am

greenoaks wrote:where i live it is quite common/acceptable to call someone a beaner to piss them off or belittle them.

but for us a beaner is an accountant.

Really? Well, a fag is something you put on fire and that gives you cancer and a bob is something you can use to pay with, so I can't say this new development really surprises me.
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Postby heavycola on Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:31 am

greenoaks wrote:where i live it is quite common/acceptable to call someone a beaner to piss them off or belittle them.

but for us a beaner is an accountant.


All mexicans are accountants? How dare you generalise like that. I think a lifetime ban is in order.
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Postby jiminski on Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:57 pm

heavycola wrote:
greenoaks wrote:where i live it is quite common/acceptable to call someone a beaner to piss them off or belittle them.

but for us a beaner is an accountant.


All mexicans are accountants? How dare you generalise like that. I think a lifetime ban is in order.



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Postby Frigidus on Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:11 pm

TeeGee wrote:The mods need to be consistant and permaban everyone and anyone else guilty of the same offence.

In this case xtra was released, either deliberately or by mistake. My take on it is he should then be allowed to stay until such time he reoffends, sort of like parole or probation. Restrict his access to certain forums so that he can't offend, that is possible with this forum software.


So if someone escapes from prison they should be allowed to stay free until they do something wrong again?
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Postby TeeGee on Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:15 pm

Frigidus wrote:
TeeGee wrote:The mods need to be consistant and permaban everyone and anyone else guilty of the same offence.

In this case xtra was released, either deliberately or by mistake. My take on it is he should then be allowed to stay until such time he reoffends, sort of like parole or probation. Restrict his access to certain forums so that he can't offend, that is possible with this forum software.


So if someone escapes from prison they should be allowed to stay free until they do something wrong again?


Its hardly the same...Did xtra rape,murder or assault anyone? A bit of common sense goes a long way, try using a little :)
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Postby Beastly on Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:29 pm

Wow, Norse got caught as a MULTI and people are putting a big stink over it.

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Free Norse is disgusting and you all should be ashamed of yourselves for even discussing this situation.
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Postby hecter on Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:34 pm

TeeGee wrote:
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TeeGee wrote:The mods need to be consistant and permaban everyone and anyone else guilty of the same offence.

In this case xtra was released, either deliberately or by mistake. My take on it is he should then be allowed to stay until such time he reoffends, sort of like parole or probation. Restrict his access to certain forums so that he can't offend, that is possible with this forum software.


So if someone escapes from prison they should be allowed to stay free until they do something wrong again?


Its hardly the same...Did xtra rape,murder or assault anyone? A bit of common sense goes a long way, try using a little :)

After reading one of xtra's posts, I feel like my mind had been raped by his lack of sense and he had beaten me with his horrid grammar and spelling.

Also, you brought up the whole parole analogy. By all rights, xtra was in prison (for what ever the reason) for life (hence the term "Perma[nent]ban"). He managed to get out of said prison when he wasn't supposed to, thus he was locked back up. It doesn't matter whether or not you dealt drugs, DUI'd, raped, murdered, stole, ect. ect. If you escape from prison without valid reason (ie you broke out of jail) you're gonna get locked back up. xtratabasco was not on "parole", as he did not make a deal with the moderators to get out early, he was an escapee. Since he was out when he shouldn't have been, back into jail he went!
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Postby hecter on Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:35 pm

Beastly wrote:Wow, Norse got caught as a MULTI and people are putting a big stink over it.

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Multis should be banned off the site!!!!!


Free Norse is disgusting and you all should be ashamed of yourselves for even discussing this situation.

Wut u talken bout? Norse was permabanned for being offensive, not for making a multi.
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Postby edwinissweet on Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:42 pm

using xtras logic..

you are illegal, you are like the rest of us but twill(americans like xtra) can treat you like shit and if he wants he can ban you(deport) just because he doesnt like you.

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Postby Neutrino on Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:24 am

hecter wrote:
Beastly wrote:Wow, Norse got caught as a MULTI and people are putting a big stink over it.

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Multis should be banned off the site!!!!!


Free Norse is disgusting and you all should be ashamed of yourselves for even discussing this situation.

Wut u talken bout? Norse was permabanned for being offensive, not for making a multi.


Norse was Perma-Forum-banned for being offensive, but banned off the entire site (slightly later) for making multis.
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Postby DaGip on Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:57 am

Beastly wrote:Wow, Norse got caught as a MULTI and people are putting a big stink over it.

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Multis should be banned off the site!!!!!


Free Norse is disgusting and you all should be ashamed of yourselves for even discussing this situation.


People were putting a big stink over it because Norse had a lot of freinds here and he only started a multi account so he could try and come back to talk to some of his freinds...but, alas, the hounds latched on to him. His commentary is sorely missed. Even if you get caught as a multi you should be allowed some sort of chance to come back. I am not condoning what Norse did or what other players have done, I am just saying there might be some merit in some of these individuals to want to come back and keep their noses clean. A sort of CC parole system should be implemented.
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Postby wicked on Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:02 am

he created two other accounts, not one.
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Postby DaGip on Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:03 am

dubl post, sorry...
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Postby DaGip on Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:03 am

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wicked wrote:he created two other accounts, not one.


Holy, Schmoly!!!! :shock:


Was that after the forum ban, Wicked?
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Postby wicked on Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:05 am

Yes.
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Postby TeeGee on Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:06 am

hecter wrote:
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Frigidus wrote:
TeeGee wrote:The mods need to be consistant and permaban everyone and anyone else guilty of the same offence.

In this case xtra was released, either deliberately or by mistake. My take on it is he should then be allowed to stay until such time he reoffends, sort of like parole or probation. Restrict his access to certain forums so that he can't offend, that is possible with this forum software.


So if someone escapes from prison they should be allowed to stay free until they do something wrong again?


Its hardly the same...Did xtra rape,murder or assault anyone? A bit of common sense goes a long way, try using a little :)

After reading one of xtra's posts, I feel like my mind had been raped by his lack of sense and he had beaten me with his horrid grammar and spelling.

Also, you brought up the whole parole analogy. By all rights, xtra was in prison (for what ever the reason) for life (hence the term "Perma[nent]ban"). He managed to get out of said prison when he wasn't supposed to, thus he was locked back up. It doesn't matter whether or not you dealt drugs, DUI'd, raped, murdered, stole, ect. ect. If you escape from prison without valid reason (ie you broke out of jail) you're gonna get locked back up. xtratabasco was not on "parole", as he did not make a deal with the moderators to get out early, he was an escapee. Since he was out when he shouldn't have been, back into jail he went!


If you take the word "parole" in its correct context it means word of honour (honor for our American friends) and does not necesarilly relate to prison :) , I thought most people on this site would have been of above average intelligence and could see words in there correct context.
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Postby TeeGee on Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:08 am

Beastly wrote:Wow, Norse got caught as a MULTI and people are putting a big stink over it.

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Multis should be banned off the site!!!!!


Free Norse is disgusting and you all should be ashamed of yourselves for even discussing this situation.


No argument from me there, any multi should be banished from the site.

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Postby Frigidus on Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:35 am

TeeGee wrote:
hecter wrote:
TeeGee wrote:
Frigidus wrote:
TeeGee wrote:The mods need to be consistant and permaban everyone and anyone else guilty of the same offence.

In this case xtra was released, either deliberately or by mistake. My take on it is he should then be allowed to stay until such time he reoffends, sort of like parole or probation. Restrict his access to certain forums so that he can't offend, that is possible with this forum software.


So if someone escapes from prison they should be allowed to stay free until they do something wrong again?


Its hardly the same...Did xtra rape,murder or assault anyone? A bit of common sense goes a long way, try using a little :)

After reading one of xtra's posts, I feel like my mind had been raped by his lack of sense and he had beaten me with his horrid grammar and spelling.

Also, you brought up the whole parole analogy. By all rights, xtra was in prison (for what ever the reason) for life (hence the term "Perma[nent]ban"). He managed to get out of said prison when he wasn't supposed to, thus he was locked back up. It doesn't matter whether or not you dealt drugs, DUI'd, raped, murdered, stole, ect. ect. If you escape from prison without valid reason (ie you broke out of jail) you're gonna get locked back up. xtratabasco was not on "parole", as he did not make a deal with the moderators to get out early, he was an escapee. Since he was out when he shouldn't have been, back into jail he went!


If you take the word "parole" in its correct context it means word of honour (honor for our American friends) and does not necesarilly relate to prison :) , I thought most people on this site would have been of above average intelligence and could see words in there correct context.


The word has multiple meanings, and yes, one of them is word of honor. Perhaps there is a different term in for this in your country. For Americans parole usually means releasing someone before the end of their sentence but keeping them under supervision. This is what he was referring to.
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