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[bedub1]

The guy just can't stop. Now he's spewing out racist bullshit while in Isreal:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/ju ... ic-success

...he said the Jewish state's economic success compared with its Palestinian neighbors was due to "cultural" differences and the "hand of providence", and declared Jerusalem to be "the capital of Israel".

He cited a climate of innovation, the Jewish history of thriving in adversity, and the "hand of providence".

Saeb Erekat, a senior Palestinian official, condemned Romney's comments. "It is a racist statement, and this man doesn't realize that the Palestinian economy cannot reach its potential because there is an Israeli occupation," he said.

"It seems to me this man lacks information, knowledge, vision and understanding of this region and its people. He also lacks knowledge about the Israelis themselves. I have not heard any Israeli official speak about cultural superiority."

rMoney is an embarasement to all Americans. I wish he'd come back to the USA, never leave it again, and just keep his mouth shut.

[Night Strike]

Where's the racism?

[GreecePwns]

he said the Jewish state's economic success compared with its Palestinian neighbors was due to "cultural" differences

It is a statement that can be taken as racist, but let's forget that angle entirely.

Its a very dumb statement. What exactly are those cultural differences? Because there are very few outside of religion and language.

This guy really knows nothing on foreign policy.

[bedub1]

Where's the racism?

Race1 is better than Race2 because of their race/culture.

Aren't you a mod? How do you not know what is and isn't racist? Are you really qualified to have your position if I have to explain this to you?

[Night Strike]

Where's the racism?

Race1 is better than Race2 because of their race/culture.

Aren't you a mod? How do you not know what is and isn't racist? Are you really qualified to have your position if I have to explain this to you?

I know what (actual) racism is. I asked where it was in that quotation. The section of your article you quoted directly quotes only 7 words that Romney spoke in three different passages. So I ask again, where is the racism? You can't quote 7 words from 3 different sections and call it racism.

[Woodruff]

What I was thinking was exactly what I said...the relationship between Israel and the United States is parasitical.

The problem with using the term "parasitical" is that you are calling Israel a parasite. What does one do with a parasite?

Many things.

There is only one thing that can be done with a parasite, it must be killed.

If you do that, you could get very sick. So I would suggest to you that's a bad, bad plan.

If Israel is a parasite, then what must the US do about it, in your view?

Stop allowing them to act as a parasite, obviously.

They are human beings, man. Equating human beings to parasites is pretty poor form and is a view held by extremists.

I didn't equate human beings to parasites. I equated the government of Israel to a parasite. I've explained this several times now...it's not rocket science.

As I said before, stay classy Woodruff.

As far as I'm concerned, you're the one with no class in this thread, patches, by continuing to intentionally alter what I've said.

[Woodruff]

The set of skills that rMoney has isn't going to make this nation great. It's going to destroy the 99%, make the 1% even richer and more powerful while exporting our jobs to China. It will make the 1% richer in the short term, but in the long term it will hasten the decline of the USA.

You've bought in to this "us vs them" class warfare hook, line, and sinker haven't you?

Hey, hey, hey, mister! I just used that "hook, line and sinker" line on you. You can't be going and using it yourself without a 14-day wait and a hand-written request!

[bedub1]

Where's the racism?

Race1 is better than Race2 because of their race/culture.

Aren't you a mod? How do you not know what is and isn't racist? Are you really qualified to have your position if I have to explain this to you?

I know what (actual) racism is. I asked where it was in that quotation. The section of your article you quoted directly quotes only 7 words that Romney spoke in three different passages. So I ask again, where is the racism? You can't quote 7 words from 3 different sections and call it racism.

“[A]as you come here and you see the GDP per capita for instance in Israel which is about 21,000 dollars(bedub1 edit: It's actually $31,000) and you compare that with the GDP per capita just across the areas managed by the Palestinian Authority which is more like 10,000 dollars(bedub1 edit: It's actually $1,500) per capita you notice a dramatic, stark difference in economic vitality.”

“[I]f you could learn anything from the economic history of the world it’s this: culture makes all the difference. Culture makes all the difference. And as I come here and I look out over this city and consider the accomplishments of the people of this nation, I recognize the power of at least culture and a few other things.”

Stating that reason for the economic discrepancy is culture/race is not only racist, but wrong.

Even McCain understands how racist rMoney's statemnt is, which is why he tried to clarify it for us. To help rMoney pull his foot out of his mouth.

It’s government, “not cultures” that define the difference between Israelis and Palestinians. That’s according to Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), who appeared to differ with presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney as he tried to defend him.

“I am sure that Gov. Romney was not talking about difference in cultures, or difference in anybody superior or inferior,” said McCain, a chief Romney foreign policy surrogate, today during a news conference after an event here with Sens. Kelly Ayotte (R-NH) and Lindsey Graham (R-SC). “What I’m sure Gov. Romney was talking was that the Israeli economy has grown and prospered in a dramatic fashion. And unfortunately, the Palestinians have not had that same economic development.

[Juan_Bottom]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021045877

[bedub1]

It's amazing how when trying to pull his foot out of his mouth, he just shoves it in deeper.

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/20 ... nd-culture

Mitt Romney offended Palestinian leaders on Monday with his suggestion that cultural differences explain why Israelis are more economically successful than Palestinians. In trying to tamp down the controversy, Romney’s people offended Mexicans by saying culture also explains why the U.S. is richer than Mexico.

For economists, the question is whether he’s right or wrong on the facts. Does culture explain economic differences? It seems like a logical conclusion, but on closer inspection the answer is “no.”

Robinson also wrote back in a similar vein. His key sentence: “Mitt is confused.”

[Juan_Bottom]

It was worse than that, he said something about his concern that the middle east was being run by Islamist.

[Symmetry]

Where's the racism?

Is it not in saying that Jewish people are racially better than Palestinians?

After all, he dismisses the idea that Palestinians can be of a variety of different faiths, his issue was that Palestinians are racially inferior.

Seems like classic racism to me. Imagine if I said that Europeans were better than Muslims. You'd quite rightly bight my head off as Europeans can be Muslim. I would have been racist, or if we're being technical, massively bigoted.

[Night Strike]

Where's the racism?

Is it not in saying that Jewish people are racially better than Palestinians?

After all, he dismisses the idea that Palestinians can be of a variety of different faiths, his issue was that Palestinians are racially inferior.

Seems like classic racism to me. Imagine if I said that Europeans were better than Muslims. You'd quite rightly bight my head off as Europeans can be Muslim. I would have been racist, or if we're being technical, massively bigoted.

In the quote provided by bedub1, there were only 7 words from 3 different locations of a speech that were directly attributed to Romney, so how can someone gather there was racism from such a poor method of quotation?

[Woodruff]

Seems like classic racism to me. Imagine if I said that Europeans were better than Muslims. You'd quite rightly bight my head off

Perhaps you forgot you were speaking to Night Strike?

[bedub1]

Where's the racism?

Is it not in saying that Jewish people are racially better than Palestinians?

After all, he dismisses the idea that Palestinians can be of a variety of different faiths, his issue was that Palestinians are racially inferior.

Seems like classic racism to me. Imagine if I said that Europeans were better than Muslims. You'd quite rightly bight my head off as Europeans can be Muslim. I would have been racist, or if we're being technical, massively bigoted.

In the quote provided by bedub1, there were only 7 words from 3 different locations of a speech that were directly attributed to Romney, so how can someone gather there was racism from such a poor method of quotation?

I posted it above for you. I'll post it again.

“[A]as you come here and you see the GDP per capita for instance in Israel which is about 21,000 dollars(bedub1 edit: It's actually $31,000) and you compare that with the GDP per capita just across the areas managed by the Palestinian Authority which is more like 10,000 dollars(bedub1 edit: It's actually $1,500) per capita you notice a dramatic, stark difference in economic vitality.”

“[I]f you could learn anything from the economic history of the world it’s this: culture makes all the difference. Culture makes all the difference. And as I come here and I look out over this city and consider the accomplishments of the people of this nation, I recognize the power of at least culture and a few other things.”

By his logic, democrats are genetically superior to republicans. The reason is states that vote democrat are more wealthy than states that vote republican. The democrat voting states put money into the general fund, the republican voting states take money out. Republicans thus are inferior to their democrat counterparts, due to genetic makeup.

Oh, and US culture is superior to Mexico's culture. And your god isn't real, but my god is.

"I am overwhelmingly impressed with the hand of providence, whenever it chooses to apply itself, and also the greatness of the human spirit, and how individuals who reach for greatness and have purpose above themselves are able to build and accomplish things that could only be done by a species created in the image of God."

Here the ass-hat explains how the jews god loves them and intervenes and helps them out, where the god of the Palestinians is a joke and doesn't exist, doesn't help them, and that's why they are so poor.

[Falkomagno]

What I was thinking was exactly what I said...the relationship between Israel and the United States is parasitical.

The problem with using the term "parasitical" is that you are calling Israel a parasite. What does one do with a parasite?

There is only one thing that can be done with a parasite, it must be killed.

If Israel is a parasite, then what must the US do about it, in your view? A parasite has no choice but to be parasitical, and if Israel is a parasite then it must be so with the US and if not her then someone else. What do you do with a tick that is crawling on you? Release it back to the yard to crawl back on you?

That type of rhetoric is unproductive at best. Conjure up images of rallies where protesters are out there calling those who are on welfare or unemployment "parasites of society!"

They are human beings, man. Equating human beings to parasites is pretty poor form and is a view held by extremists. One should refrain from such, as it merely is a way to turn an opponent into something less than human. A trend all too common in this day an age, turning people into blood sucking, life devouring evil entities that are no better than a tapeworm.

As I said before, stay classy Woodruff. Keep equating nations and peoples to parasites. When the time comes to actually deal with such problems those sentiments will be of great use in deciding exactly what to do about said problem.....

Don't be so sensitive. If I said Colombia is parasitical of USA would you call me prejudice or racist? Probably not. You don't make distinctions between a country and a race. Israel is not a race, it's a country. Saying a country is a parasite, does not automatically mean that the race living there are parasites. Just that their culture, politicians and so forth are acting like parasites.

you are prejudice and racist

[waauw]

lol you can't even call it parasitical if the USA just gives Israel money under it's own will. Isreal does what the US wants, create excuses to intervene in the middle-east. Israel is more like the dog that someone sets loose on a target.

Both get what they want out of the situation(Israel gets money and weapons and the US gets more influence in the region and excuses to intervene)
Seems more like a mutual understanding

[BigBallinStalin]

lol you can't even call it parasitical if the USA just gives Israel money under it's own will. Isreal does what the US wants, create excuses to intervene in the middle-east. Israel is more like the dog that someone sets loose on a target.

Both get what they want out of the situation(Israel gets money and weapons and the US gets more influence in the region and excuses to intervene)
Seems more like a mutual understanding

Not quite. They do coordinate, but sometimes Israel does what it wants because it knows the US cannot drop its support for Israel.

[Woodruff]

lol you can't even call it parasitical if the USA just gives Israel money under it's own will. Isreal does what the US wants, create excuses to intervene in the middle-east. Israel is more like the dog that someone sets loose on a target.

Both get what they want out of the situation(Israel gets money and weapons and the US gets more influence in the region and excuses to intervene)
Seems more like a mutual understanding

I suppose if you ignore that Israel definitely doesn't always do what the US wants, as well as the frequent spying, counter-intelligence and cyber-incursions on the US by Israel.

(How did this thing get woken up after so long?)