Coming Messiah

[Gweeedo]

In fact they Arabs claim a common ancestry with the Jews. Same God (no messiah). A muslim is a man or woman who be 'slavery' to the god (Allah)

Huh?

You ve just been gweedoed!!

I did/do not have time to elaborate...in short;
The Arabs have the same Father as the Jews (Abram), the world of Islam knows this.
Muslims (ishmeal, Abrams Son) know the Bible, believing Jesus was a 'prophet' of God.
Many Muslims (if not all) read the bible.

When I say slavery, I mean they are forced to believe (not free will) on the words and religious system founded by the prophet Muhammad...if you do not believe; you are put to death.
They use to give Christians a little leeway (why you ask)...everybody else was to be put to death on the spot!



You just been Gweeedamized!!!

[Symmetry]

Islam is supposed to have no compulsion to believe, also they have a belief in a messiah (like Judaism). Also they are pretty tolerant of other religions.
But hey, who am I to argue with facts against bigotry.

[betiko]

Islam is supposed to have no compulsion to believe, also they have a belief in a messiah (like Judaism). Also they are pretty tolerant of other religions.
But hey, who am I to argue with facts against bigotry.

Pretty laughable when you know for example how the spanish inquisition behaved in Spain, and how tolerant and progressist muslims were during their 400 years of spanish domination.

[Symmetry]

Islam is supposed to have no compulsion to believe, also they have a belief in a messiah (like Judaism). Also they are pretty tolerant of other religions.
But hey, who am I to argue with facts against bigotry.

Pretty laughable when you know for example how the spanish inquisition behaved in Spain, and how tolerant and progressist muslims were during their 400 years of spanish domination.

Indeed, well said.

[universalchiro]

Chiro let me put it this way; how well do you know other religions? Have you studied the coran, the tora, in depth hindouism, buddhism ect? Have you ever asked yourself if other beliefs could be the truth? Or were you born christian and so passionate about it that you studied passionately everything about your religion?

If it s the last assumption, how on earth could you not agree that if you were born Muslim you would be a hard core muslim right now?

I agree with you, if someone has not studied all the religions, how can they properly chose. I have studied all the major religions, I have questioned the Bible, I have been a skeptic of God, the other religions were enjoyable to study and they all had something good to say from the Holy Quran to the Tulmud to etc. The Torah is in the Old Testament. But what struck me about the God of Abraham/Isaac/Jacob/Joseph/Moses/Elijah/etc, the Bible has a completely different path to Heaven. All the religions proclaim one has to do a certain deeds or some human effort to obtain salvation to earn salvation, except the Bible. God declares that salvation is not based on what we do or did, but solely on what Jesus did on the cross. A faith based salvation based not on our own merit and our words/thoughts/actions authenticate a saved heart.

I was born into the Pentacostal movement, but when I was 18 after careful study, I chose an alternate path than both my parents and all my extended family members that still practice the Pentacostal ways. Though granted it's still under the Christian umbrella, it is a different branch and so I have a respect for the ability of an adult to chose which belief system they want to follow.

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Another sign of the Coming Messiah:

There will be two witnesses that will prepare the way for the Messiah, these two holy men will be killed for their preaching while the whole world watches and the world will celebrate their death and pass around gifts.
One of the witnesses will be in the spirit of Elijah, but he will be a unique human being with probably a different name, so when he is asked "are you the Elijah coming to prepare the way for the Messiah?", he will probably say no, I am the voice in the wilderness calling for repentance for the kingdom is at hand.

[Symmetry]

What do you think the Pentacostals are doing wrong?

[notyou2]

If you only play games that are singles doubles triples or quads against 1 set of opponents, you should win 50%. If you have good team mates then you should win more than 50%.

All I'm saying.

The point being?

I fail to understand what you don't understand.

Where are you going with this?

My point was very clear. If you were of a lower rank you could comprehend it.

[betiko]

If you only play games that are singles doubles triples or quads against 1 set of opponents, you should win 50%. If you have good team mates then you should win more than 50%.

All I'm saying.

The point being?

I fail to understand what you don't understand.

Where are you going with this?

My point was very clear. If you were of a lower rank you could comprehend it.

Well please enlighten me cause as you can see I m too dumb to understand where you're going and what your statement has to do with anything.

Because I can do the same, here it goes: if you have roughly the same score as your opponent, you will win/lose 20 pts. Are you mindblown too now?

[universalchiro]

@ symmetry:
I didn't think the gifts that the apostles had to raise the dead, heal the lame, make the blind see, the deaf hear and speak the Word of God in a Heavenly language that anyone who hears them speak in tongues would hear the Gospel in their native language are viable gifts today. Though God still does miraculous things, I'm not convinced any one person has those gifts. The Bible says in the latter times that there will be an outpouring of the Holy Spirit and many will do signs and wonders, visions and prophetic dreams, I didn't think we had reached those times when I was 18 and changed beliefs. Is the time now? I don't see it yet, but it is debatable.
This is a non-salvational issue, so I don't get caught up into it, nor do I hold dogmatically to my interpretation regarding the gifts. It's an in-house fun debate between fellow believers, not one of contention.


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Another sign of the Coming Messiah: The believers in Christ will not all die, some will be caught up into the air in the twinkling of an eye. Their bodies will remain on earth, lifeless. Their souls and spirits will be raptured up to Heaven. Some believe this to be before the 7 year tribulation starts, some say during, some say at the end.

Probably the world will shrug this off as a mass suicide. But maybe the numbers of believers is smaller than we think. The Bible says few follow the narrow way of God and many follow the broad way to destruction.

[Symmetry]

@ symmetry:
I didn't think the gifts that the apostles had to raise the dead, heal the lame, make the blind see, the deaf hear and speak the Word of God in a Heavenly language that anyone who hears them speak in tongues would hear the Gospel in their native language. The Bible says in the latter times that there will be an outpouring of the Holy Spirit and many will do signs and wonders, visions and prophetic dreams, I didn't think we had reached those times when I was 18 and changed beliefs. Is the time now? I don't see it yet, but it is debatable.
This is a non-salvational issue, so I don't get caught up into it, nor do I hold dogmatically to my interpretation regarding the gifts. It's an in-house fun debate between fellow believers, not one of contention.


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Another sign of the Coming Messiah: The believers in Christ will not all die, some will be caught up into the air in the twinkling of an eye. Their bodies will remain on earth, lifeless. Their souls and spirits will be raptured up to Heaven. Some believe this to be before the 7 year tribulation starts, some say during, some say at the end.

Probably the world will shrug this off as a mass suicide. But maybe the numbers of believers is smaller than we think. The Bible says few follow the narrow way of God and many follow the broad way to destruction.

Thanks for the reply, but I will be avoiding any end-time celebration kool-aid if I visit your church in the near future.

[thegreekdog]

My god...

UC is so right! I never recognized that I could play escalating spoils, and eventually switch to only team games. What a genius! I feel honored to be in the presence of such strategic acumen!

Lol, it's hilarious how some players overestimate their dick size when talking about their rank.

-TG

Clearly, in addition to the correlation between conquer club rank and intelligence, there is a correlation to conquer club rank and dick size. There is probably also a correlation between conquer club rank and getting hot chicks (but that may just be a second correlation between conquer club rank --> dick size --> getting hot chicks).

Look, I'm not smart enough to understand this (I mean, look at my rank), but I'm doing my best here.

it is stupid to try and correlate risk rank with intelligence/ lack of intelligence, but it doesn t mean that anyone could reach any close to conqueror trying their best, all I'm saying.

Oh, we're being serious?

I would imagine it takes a lot of time and effort and I would imagine time and effort are more important than intelligence when it comes to being conqueror. Most (virtually all) of the folks I've met here in the fora are intelligent and I'm pretty sure most (virtually all) of them have not achieved the rank of conqueror.

[thegreekdog]

Some major signs to look for of the coming Messiah that tells you He is within 7 years:
1. Seven year peace treaty.
2. Israel builds Solomon's Temple on the Temple mount, not where the Rock of the Dome is, but next to it.
3. Hyper-inflation
4. Famine
5. Plagues
6. Anti-Christ breaks the 7yr peace treaty and declares himself worthy to be worshiped.

Is this the order in which these events will occur? Also, I giggled at the inclusion of hyper-inflation. Did they understand hyper-inflation in the aughts?

[Symmetry]

I'm surprised universal healthcare isn't on there somewhere.

[notyou2]

Well please enlighten me cause as you can see I m too dumb to understand where you're going and what your statement has to do with anything.

Because I can do the same, here it goes: if you have roughly the same score as your opponent, you will win/lose 20 pts. Are you mindblown too now?

I am not arguing with you.

I agree that UC is a talented player. I am pretty sure there are lots of smarter people here with lower ranks than him. He was insinuating that his rank is a function of his intelligence. I disagree strongly. I am not saying UC isn't intelligent, I am certain that he is.

I am simply saying that by playing certain settings, you can gain more points than others that play a multitude of settings and styles.

There are ways to ensure you gain points within the settings and games.

I am horrible at speed for example, but many are good at it. If you concentrate on the games and settings you are good at, your rank will increase.

[betiko]

Well please enlighten me cause as you can see I m too dumb to understand where you're going and what your statement has to do with anything.

Because I can do the same, here it goes: if you have roughly the same score as your opponent, you will win/lose 20 pts. Are you mindblown too now?

I am not arguing with you.

I agree that UC is a talented player. I am pretty sure there are lots of smarter people here with lower ranks than him. He was insinuating that his rank is a function of his intelligence. I disagree strongly. I am not saying UC isn't intelligent, I am certain that he is.

I am simply saying that by playing certain settings, you can gain more points than others that play a multitude of settings and styles.

There are ways to ensure you gain points within the settings and games.

I am horrible at speed for example, but many are good at it. If you concentrate on the games and settings you are good at, your rank will increase.

Yes, and I ve been saying that there is no direct correlation between rank and general intelligence, but it does with various fields of intelligence and requires talent. The thing is that you are putting win rates in the middle which has absolutely nothing to do with anything, and I told koolback it was irrelevant to discuss win rates.
Also you don t seem to realise how points are hard to win and easy to lose at those levels. The higher you rank up the less opponents you can find that would give you a 50/50 risk/reward you're talking about. And at a certain point it is almost impossible to outplay opponents as the top is extremely competitive.
It is not easier to rank up through single opponents/ opponent teams compared to multi opponents if that is what you and koolback were implying. It is in fact often easier to have a much better expected win rate in multiplayer thanks to skills. Not to mention that all the points awarded come at the same time which is much more beneficial for your rank.

[patches70]

Also, I giggled at the inclusion of hyper-inflation. Did they understand hyper-inflation in the aughts?

Yes, the Romans especially were quite familiar with inflation of very high proportions. It was a problem they struggled with. Of course, they didn't call it "inflation" but they certainly knew the effects and what caused it. Debasement of their coinage, which the Romans did from time to time.

[notyou2]

Well please enlighten me cause as you can see I m too dumb to understand where you're going and what your statement has to do with anything.

Because I can do the same, here it goes: if you have roughly the same score as your opponent, you will win/lose 20 pts. Are you mindblown too now?

I am not arguing with you.

I agree that UC is a talented player. I am pretty sure there are lots of smarter people here with lower ranks than him. He was insinuating that his rank is a function of his intelligence. I disagree strongly. I am not saying UC isn't intelligent, I am certain that he is.

I am simply saying that by playing certain settings, you can gain more points than others that play a multitude of settings and styles.

There are ways to ensure you gain points within the settings and games.

I am horrible at speed for example, but many are good at it. If you concentrate on the games and settings you are good at, your rank will increase.

Yes, and I ve been saying that there is no direct correlation between rank and general intelligence, but it does with various fields of intelligence and requires talent. The thing is that you are putting win rates in the middle which has absolutely nothing to do with anything, and I told koolback it was irrelevant to discuss win rates.
Also you don t seem to realise how points are hard to win and easy to lose at those levels. The higher you rank up the less opponents you can find that would give you a 50/50 risk/reward you're talking about. And at a certain point it is almost impossible to outplay opponents as the top is extremely competitive.
It is not easier to rank up through single opponents/ opponent teams compared to multi opponents if that is what you and koolback were implying. It is in fact often easier to have a much better expected win rate in multiplayer thanks to skills. Not to mention that all the points awarded come at the same time which is much more beneficial for your rank.

I understand all that and agree with it. I am saying that if you only play settings in which you are talented, your points increase. I play for fun and camaraderie in multiple settings even though many settings I am not good at. I believe there are many players like me, many of which could be in the top 250.

[universalchiro]

@thegreekdog: Bible says during the seven year tribulation, people will work a days wage for one meal. So the word "hyper-inflation" was to put the phrase in our vernacular.
@symmetry: I agree, stay away from the kool-aid.

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There will be many false Christs, the way to know if they are false is only via the Bible.

[Gweeedo]

@thegreekdog: Bible says during the seven year tribulation, people will work a days wage for one meal. So the word "hyper-inflation" was to put the phrase in our vernacular.
@symmetry: I agree, stay away from the kool-aid.

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There will be many false Christs, the way to know if they are false is only via the Bible.

I am not sure that is entirely true.

[Symmetry]

How does one check the Bible for false Christs?

[notyou2]

How does one check the Bible for false Christs?

and which Bible?

[Symmetry]

How does one check the Bible for false Christs?

and which Bible?

Orange Catholic, I assume. Mine has its own magnifier and electrostatic charge system.

[betiko]

Well please enlighten me cause as you can see I m too dumb to understand where you're going and what your statement has to do with anything.

Because I can do the same, here it goes: if you have roughly the same score as your opponent, you will win/lose 20 pts. Are you mindblown too now?

I am not arguing with you.

I agree that UC is a talented player. I am pretty sure there are lots of smarter people here with lower ranks than him. He was insinuating that his rank is a function of his intelligence. I disagree strongly. I am not saying UC isn't intelligent, I am certain that he is.

I am simply saying that by playing certain settings, you can gain more points than others that play a multitude of settings and styles.

There are ways to ensure you gain points within the settings and games.

I am horrible at speed for example, but many are good at it. If you concentrate on the games and settings you are good at, your rank will increase.

Yes, and I ve been saying that there is no direct correlation between rank and general intelligence, but it does with various fields of intelligence and requires talent. The thing is that you are putting win rates in the middle which has absolutely nothing to do with anything, and I told koolback it was irrelevant to discuss win rates.
Also you don t seem to realise how points are hard to win and easy to lose at those levels. The higher you rank up the less opponents you can find that would give you a 50/50 risk/reward you're talking about. And at a certain point it is almost impossible to outplay opponents as the top is extremely competitive.
It is not easier to rank up through single opponents/ opponent teams compared to multi opponents if that is what you and koolback were implying. It is in fact often easier to have a much better expected win rate in multiplayer thanks to skills. Not to mention that all the points awarded come at the same time which is much more beneficial for your rank.

I understand all that and agree with it. I am saying that if you only play settings in which you are talented, your points increase. I play for fun and camaraderie in multiple settings even though many settings I am not good at. I believe there are many players like me, many of which could be in the top 250.

Well I m saying that the point system is such that you would reach faster your tops that you would think. It is extremely easy to reach major, not that easy after reaching a mid major rank because the % of games you need to win to break even kind of skyrockets at some point, so it s easier to say than to do.
There are moments when I care to rank up like lately (it would be impossible to reach brig otherwise) and there are moments when I play anything vs anyone and I join games that are totally irrational to join over and over, which lead to huge point drops. Nevertheless, I am never bellow major, and I play any setting any map. There are tons of players like me that can be totally medal hunting or just goofing around with big up and downs, but that never fall as low as striper ranks.
And no, I've never seen stripers playing perfectly.

[betiko]

How does one check the Bible for false Christs?

and which Bible?

Orange Catholic, I assume. Mine has its own magnifier and electrostatic charge system.

I am the new christ!

On which page does it say if it s true or if I m kidding?

[notyou2]

Betiko, I was mostly a captain for 2 years and obtained colonel twice. I agree it is hard to stay there. I am sure UC is a good player, but to state that it is a measure of his being right about all things, and all lower ranks wrong, is ludicrous and smacks of hypocrisy.