Conquer Club

Two Indonesian Army soldiers ran over and killed a small boy in West Papua and were beaten to death for their crime. Members of the IA have now rampaged, setting fire to houses and killing indiscriminately. Thousands of innocents have been forced to hide in the jungle with no food.

They are not searching and questioning, just slaughtering Papuans.

http://westpapuamedia.info/2012/06/09/v ... y-rampage/

For those of you unaware, the Indonesians have been oppressing Papua and claiming territorial rights over the population (who wish to gain their freedom from Indonesia). Killings and beatings of civilians by the army are commonplace.

Thank you for the news citizen of "annonymous proxy" we in the CC comunnity will do everything in our power to see justice is served.

9 Papuans died, 10+ injured.

From the OP's tone, I expected more.

KONY FOR PRESIDENT 2012

there are more killed by square mile per day in Mexico.

Army of GOD wrote:KONY FOR PRESIDENT 2012

I'd be down for that.

nietzsche wrote:there are more killed by square mile per day in Mexico.

BUT WE HAVE TO STOP OBSCURE REGIME FROM KILLING PEOPLE IN A RANDOM COUNTRY

Does religion have anything to do with this?

No it doesn't.

sounds like you have a disagreement in morality with the IA huamulan. Not my problem.

Does Indonesia have any natural resources we can exploit? With the two wars we are currently in winding down, perhaps Indonesia is next? I always thought it would be Iran, but I suppose the American government could be persuaded otherwise.

thegreekdog wrote:Does Indonesia have any natural resources we can exploit? With the two wars we are currently in winding down, perhaps Indonesia is next? I always thought it would be Iran, but I suppose the American government could be persuaded otherwise.

Indonesia is safe from a US invasion, it has nothing you want or need, is poor and very overpopulated. Unless you guys need fish? Or are looking at smuggling refugees into Australia?? Although it is a very cheap holiday destination. (just don't try and smuggle drugs in, they have enough of there own and are likely to shoot you for it)

It has lucrative arms contracts between the government and countries like the UK.

The vested interests of the NATO powers are, thus, already catered for. Reduced military oppression of Western Papua would only dent the profit margins of the arms manufacturers.

huamulan wrote:It has lucrative arms contracts between the government and countries like the UK.

The vested interests of the NATO powers are, thus, already catered for. Reduced military oppression of Western Papua would only dent the profit margins of the arms manufacturers.

Okay. America is not going to do anything even if I do spread the message.

Army of GOD wrote:

nietzsche wrote:there are more killed by square mile per day in Mexico.

BUT WE HAVE TO STOP OBSCURE REGIME FROM KILLING PEOPLE IN A RANDOM COUNTRY

WHAT DOES AMERICA HAVE TO DO WITH ANY OF THIS?

-rd

rdsrds2120 wrote:

Army of GOD wrote:

nietzsche wrote:there are more killed by square mile per day in Mexico.

BUT WE HAVE TO STOP OBSCURE REGIME FROM KILLING PEOPLE IN A RANDOM COUNTRY

WHAT DOES AMERICA HAVE TO DO WITH ANY OF THIS?

-rd

THEY SELL ARMS

notyou2 wrote:

rdsrds2120 wrote:

Army of GOD wrote:

nietzsche wrote:there are more killed by square mile per day in Mexico.

BUT WE HAVE TO STOP OBSCURE REGIME FROM KILLING PEOPLE IN A RANDOM COUNTRY

WHAT DOES AMERICA HAVE TO DO WITH ANY OF THIS?

-rd

THEY SELL ARMS

ITS NOT OUR FAULT THERES A DEMAND

If you support American involvement in WW1, WW2, Kuwait, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and/or Syria then it's logical to assume that you'd also care about Indonesia.

All of these being examples of times the US has sent/condoned the sending of troops to stop regimes from killing people in other countries.

huamulan wrote:If you support American involvement in WW1, WW2, Kuwait, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and/or Syria then it's logical to assume that you'd also care about Indonesia.

All of these being examples of times the US has sent/condoned the sending of troops to stop regimes from killing people in other countries.

Firstly, WW1 and WW2 are completely independent than the others and secondly, I bet you'd be hard pressed to find many people who supported American involvement in everything other than WWs 1 and 2.

Army of GOD wrote:

huamulan wrote:If you support American involvement in WW1, WW2, Kuwait, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and/or Syria then it's logical to assume that you'd also care about Indonesia.

All of these being examples of times the US has sent/condoned the sending of troops to stop regimes from killing people in other countries.

Firstly, WW1 and WW2 are completely independent than the others and secondly, I bet you'd be hard pressed to find many people who supported American involvement in everything other than WWs 1 and 2.

Many, MANY, Americans did not support involvement in either of the 2 world wars.

notyou2 wrote:

Army of GOD wrote:

huamulan wrote:If you support American involvement in WW1, WW2, Kuwait, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and/or Syria then it's logical to assume that you'd also care about Indonesia.

All of these being examples of times the US has sent/condoned the sending of troops to stop regimes from killing people in other countries.

Firstly, WW1 and WW2 are completely independent than the others and secondly, I bet you'd be hard pressed to find many people who supported American involvement in everything other than WWs 1 and 2.

Many, MANY, Americans did not support involvement in either of the 2 world wars.

I know, but I would think that the support for the WWs is significantly greater than the other wars.

I could be wrong, but this is me being too lazy to look it up.

I would guess that Americans supported the Afghanistan war more than any other.

notyou2 wrote:I would guess that Americans supported the Afghanistan war more than any other.

Really? hm


maybe immediately after 9/11, but I would think that Pearl Harbor in WW2 would match, maybe even exceed it.

There are a great deal of US people with German heritage. It was a very touchy subject at the time, but Pearl Harbor definitely clinched it. You could be right, I expect you can find US poll results for war popularity for most if not all of the ones listed.

notyou2 wrote:There are a great deal of US people with German heritage. It was a very touchy subject at the time, but Pearl Harbor definitely clinched it. You could be right, I expect you can find US poll results for war popularity for most if not all of the ones listed.

There was a Wiki page with international support for Afghan, but that only went to 2007.

I'm too lazy to look hard.

But anyway, people will hardly give a shit about Indonesia. I mean, ok, if you made a viral Youtube video like the Kony one then you'll get a shit ton of high school students reposting it and getting its views up, but then you'll just end up jacking it in San Diego.

Unless there's a highly demanded resource in Indonesia, there's a 0% chance the US will do anything.