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Posted: **Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:26 am**

What is your ideal form of the CC Community?

What means have you taken in order to actualize this potential, which you may have in mind?

Posted: **Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:34 am**

Sometimes I ban people for a day or three when they break the rules.

Posted: **Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:49 am**

MeDeFe wrote:Sometimes I ban people for a day or three when they break the rules.

Perhaps you should ban yourself for baiting?

Posted: **Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:49 am**

BigBallinStalin wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:Sometimes I ban people for a day or three when they break the rules.

Perhaps you should ban yourself for baiting?

Been there, done that.
I didn't get a t-shirt, though.

Posted: **Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:57 am**

MeDeFe wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:Sometimes I ban people for a day or three when they break the rules.

Perhaps you should ban yourself for baiting?

Been there, done that.
I didn't get a t-shirt, though.

Apparently, you're not willing to hear any criticism. Lemme know when you're done picking up the scattered chess pieces.

Posted: **Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:59 am**

"Sometimes I ban people for a day or three when they break the rules"

In other words, the enforcement of rules is inconsistent and arbitrary, and the means for giving moderators feedback is ineffective (see above, and see anywhere where the mods are criticized for arbitrary and inconsistent rule enforcement).

It is more accurate to say that MeDeFe among others arbitrarily bans people for a day or three whenever they perceive that some imaginary border, which is extremely vague and unknown to non-mods, has been crossed. Whoever puts on the best showing of Victim Theatre results in no punishment as well. This is what the CC Community should not be.

Posted: **Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:42 pm**

Are you hoping for, like, an equation? A... banquation?

Posted: **Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:05 pm**

Neoteny wrote:Are you hoping for, like, an equation? A... banquation?

Are you satisfied with the CC life you're living?

Posted: **Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:09 pm**

I might like a few more sixes in my life. Maybe a blow job now and then. I sort of miss the permanently banned from time to time. But, mostly, I'm ok with things. Maybe if RDS was funny; that would be nice.

Posted: **Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:09 pm**

BigBallinStalin wrote:
Neoteny wrote:Are you hoping for, like, an equation? A... banquation?

Are you satisfied with the CC life you're living?

I am.

and you didn't answer the question... :lol:

Posted: **Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:10 pm**

This forum deserves a better class of trolls [/joker]

I mean, Gillipig? It's like he's not even trying any more.

Posted: **Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:10 pm**

fadedpsychosis wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Neoteny wrote:Are you hoping for, like, an equation? A... banquation?

Are you satisfied with the CC life you're living?

I am.

and you didn't answer the question...

I'm hoping for anything that's useful.

(The OP is there for people to spit out something for us to work with.)

Posted: **Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:11 pm**

You're recent ban BBS, in my opinion, was justified. However, I believe there have been many warnings and bans that weren't justified. I agree the rules and interpretation of them could certainly be clarified and have not been imposed equally in the past.

Posted: **Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:19 pm**

BigBallinStalin wrote:What is your ideal form of the CC Community?

What means have you taken in order to actualize this potential, which you may have in mind?

What means have you taken, other than be a moderator for a day, take free premium from it then run away?

Posted: **Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:21 pm**

nagerous wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:What is your ideal form of the CC Community?

What means have you taken in order to actualize this potential, which you may have in mind?

What means have you taken, other than be a moderator for a day, take free premium from it then run away?

Now that is interesting.

Posted: **Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:23 pm**

notyou2 wrote:You're recent ban BBS, in my opinion, was justified. However, I believe there have been many warnings and bans that weren't justified. I agree the rules and interpretation of them could certainly be clarified and have not been imposed equally in the past.

I guess. I can't see how people perceive the line between acceptable and unacceptable, and that ban still doesn't make that clear. Furthermore, MeDeFe can't even explain that fine line and its ever-changing circumstances. And, those perceptions are subject to change on even the most minute circumstances (e.g. Rds is more sensitive to the use of words like "faggot" and "muslims = X").

Another problem is that I'm a reactive kind of guy. If I see someone causing a bunch of shit, then I'll dash it back at them (e.g. Symmetry). Obviously, Symmetry didn't like that and put on some great theatrics/hysterics, so I got banned for it. So now what?

(1) Should I be an ass and report every instance of him breaking a rule? Pimpdave did that (and most of his reports may have been spurious), but either way, this annoyed the mods, thus contributing to their bias against him (mods aren't impartial).

So what do?

(2) Make a thread showing instances where particular users are baiting, flaming, trolling (the holy trinity)?
Then I may get banned for calling people out on... breaking the rules? (seems likely anyway given that some are effective at theatrics).

(3) Then there's the whole problem of formal and informal rules. Most of us in here have baited, flamed, trolled within the past 3 days, and to me that's not a problem---as long as the frequency is minimal and intentions are good (i.e. the accusations are baseless).

Etc., etc,.

Posted: **Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:30 pm**

nagerous wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:What is your ideal form of the CC Community?

What means have you taken in order to actualize this potential, which you may have in mind?

What means have you taken, other than be a moderator for a day, take free premium from it then run away?

I already went over this in GD.

1. I wasn't mod for a day; probably about a week.
2. I didn't know I would retain free premium after dropping out of modding.
3. My expectations on modding were way too high
3a. the required readings were lengthy yet not useful (which might explain why mods behave as they do)
3b. I didn't like being a mod. The status is not fun, I can't "be myself," and I grew easily tired of people throwing hysterics over the most petty things (thus would not be able to mete out punishment in an impartial manner using 100% of my efforts in understanding each case).
4. Therefore, I was not well-suited to remain a mod.

Kudos to me for being able to realize this in less than a week before I made any major mistakes as a mod.

Is that clear?

Posted: **Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:31 pm**

You could always apologise. The ban, as far as I'm aware, was a chance for you to cool down, but you seem to have used it as an opportunity to get more worked up.

Posted: **Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:32 pm**

Symmetry wrote:You could always apologise. The ban, as far as I'm aware, was a chance for you to cool down, but you seem to have used it as an opportunity to get more worked up.

How do you know that I am "more worked up"?

Posted: **Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:33 pm**

BigBallinStalin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:You could always apologise. The ban, as far as I'm aware, was a chance for you to cool down, but you seem to have used it as an opportunity to get more worked up.

How do you know that I am "more worked up"?

empirical evidence

Posted: **Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:42 pm**

fadedpsychosis wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:You could always apologise. The ban, as far as I'm aware, was a chance for you to cool down, but you seem to have used it as an opportunity to get more worked up.

How do you know that I am "more worked up"?

empirical evidence...

that is based on your own interpretation, which
(1) suffers from your particular cognitive bias,
(2) is limited to written communication, and
(3) lacks awareness of the transmitter's intentions and subject meaning.

Symmetry and all of us have this problem. We impose our interpretations on the meaning of other people's words. In other words, we inadvertently presume to know that which we clearly don't.

Also, it's like the case where if you feel cold, you'll perceive that others are as cold as you--even though they aren't. Likewise, if you feel angry from someone's post, it may be the case that you yourself are angry--yet unwittingly you are imposing your anger onto the meaning of others' words, thus distorting reality.*

*(I'm not saying that you right now ITT are doing this. It's the general "you").

Posted: **Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:43 pm**

BigBallinStalin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:You could always apologise. The ban, as far as I'm aware, was a chance for you to cool down, but you seem to have used it as an opportunity to get more worked up.

How do you know that I am "more worked up"?

Empirical evidence.

Posted: **Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:43 pm**

Symmetry wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:You could always apologise. The ban, as far as I'm aware, was a chance for you to cool down, but you seem to have used it as an opportunity to get more worked up.

How do you know that I am "more worked up"?

Empirical evidence.

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=179401&view=unread#p3917438

Posted: **Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:45 pm**

BigBallinStalin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:You could always apologise. The ban, as far as I'm aware, was a chance for you to cool down, but you seem to have used it as an opportunity to get more worked up.

How do you know that I am "more worked up"?

Empirical evidence.

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=179401&start=15#p3917409

Yup. Empirical evidence.

Posted: **Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:53 pm**

Symmetry wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:You could always apologise. The ban, as far as I'm aware, was a chance for you to cool down, but you seem to have used it as an opportunity to get more worked up.

How do you know that I am "more worked up"?

Empirical evidence.

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=179401&start=15#p3917409

Yup. Empirical evidence.

By failing to back your claims, thanks for admitting that you don't know that I am "more worked up."

So, what was the purpose this allegation, Symmetry? Whatever could it be?

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