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Ok this is an honest question: What do you think should be the statute of limitations on reporting someone?
I was warned just now on something I did... lets see... last week or so. I am considering this a vindictive report so don't really feel any particular way about it but I was wondering if the timeline of events even enters into the picture when a report is considered? I mean, technically speaking I could dig up some week, month or even year old instance that I could use against someone I had current beef with and report them right? Would this be abuse of the system?
Thoughts, opinions and discussions are welcome from all per usual. I could even add a poll as to how long is a reasonable time to report someone after an offense is noticed upon request. I am more or less trying to gauge what the community feels as opposed to the technical answer which I am assuming there is no statute. I realize I am not a favorite on these forums but please try to remain neutral. Just pretend someone else asked.

Funkyterrance wrote:Ok this is an honest question: What do you think should be the statute of limitations on reporting someone?
I was warned just now on something I did... lets see... last week or so. I am considering this a vindictive report so don't really feel any particular way about it but I was wondering if the timeline of events even enters into the picture when a report is considered? I mean, technically speaking I could dig up some week, month or even year old instance that I could use against someone I had current beef with and report them right? Would this be abuse of the system?
Thoughts, opinions and discussions are welcome from all per usual. I could even add a poll as to how long is a reasonable time to report someone after an offense is noticed upon request. I am more or less trying to gauge what the community feels as opposed to the technical answer which I am assuming there is no statute. I realize I am not a favorite on these forums but please try to remain neutral. Just pretend someone else asked.

I think reports should be submitted in the present, when the thread is active, the comment is seen by lots of people. Reports should be made for things that are obvious, that you know if there were 2 other people reading over your shoulder they would both agree it's a valid item to report.

At the same time people aren't on cc 24/7, so they might not have read items as they are posted. Sometimes the objectionable content might be a flame directed solely at 1 person, so only 1 person would find it objectionable and report it. I think it all varies on a case-by-case occasion, and requires a mod that is familiar with the interaction of members in this forum, the comments, threads, debates etc which are occurring. Every report should be met with suspicion and every person reported should be assumed innocent.

Funkyterrance wrote:Ok this is an honest question: What do you think should be the statute of limitations on reporting someone?
I was warned just now on something I did... lets see... last week or so. I am considering this a vindictive report so don't really feel any particular way about it but I was wondering if the timeline of events even enters into the picture when a report is considered? I mean, technically speaking I could dig up some week, month or even year old instance that I could use against someone I had current beef with and report them right? Would this be abuse of the system?
Thoughts, opinions and discussions are welcome from all per usual. I could even add a poll as to how long is a reasonable time to report someone after an offense is noticed upon request. I am more or less trying to gauge what the community feels as opposed to the technical answer which I am assuming there is no statute. I realize I am not a favorite on these forums but please try to remain neutral. Just pretend someone else asked.

I agree with you that a week seems like a long time. However, I've also been told on a few occasions that it can take more than a week before someone gets around to looking at a report. So perhaps it was reported fairly early, but the mods just hadn't gotten to it until later?

bedub1 wrote:At the same time people aren't on cc 24/7, so they might not have read items as they are posted. Sometimes the objectionable content might be a flame directed solely at 1 person, so only 1 person would find it objectionable and report it. I think it all varies on a case-by-case occasion, and requires a mod that is familiar with the interaction of members in this forum, the comments, threads, debates etc which are occurring. Every report should be met with suspicion and every person reported should be assumed innocent.

I agree that every report should be met with suspicion but do you think that this is the case? How much investigation do you think actually goes on? Should it be assumed that the mod checks to see the relevance/validity of the report or are the odds of this basically hit or miss and dependent on the mod trusting the source of the report?

Woodruff wrote:
I agree with you that a week seems like a long time. However, I've also been told on a few occasions that it can take more than a week before someone gets around to looking at a report. So perhaps it was reported fairly early, but the mods just hadn't gotten to it until later?

So if there is a doubt regarding the motive behind the report do you think it's ok to ask when the report was submitted or is this considered out of order?

Funkyterrance wrote:Ok this is an honest question: What do you think should be the statute of limitations on reporting someone?
I was warned just now on something I did... lets see... last week or so. I am considering this a vindictive report so don't really feel any particular way about it but I was wondering if the timeline of events even enters into the picture when a report is considered? I mean, technically speaking I could dig up some week, month or even year old instance that I could use against someone I had current beef with and report them right? Would this be abuse of the system?
Thoughts, opinions and discussions are welcome from all per usual. I could even add a poll as to how long is a reasonable time to report someone after an offense is noticed upon request. I am more or less trying to gauge what the community feels as opposed to the technical answer which I am assuming there is no statute. I realize I am not a favorite on these forums but please try to remain neutral. Just pretend someone else asked.

I think it depends upon what was done.

AAFitz wrote:
I think it depends upon what was done.

If by this you mean that if it were a really big offense then the time between the offense and the actual reporting could be longer, wouldn't a bigger offense tend to be reported more quickly anyway?

Funkyterrance wrote:

AAFitz wrote:
I think it depends upon what was done.

If by this you mean that if it were a really big offense then the time between the offense and the actual reporting could be longer, wouldn't a bigger offense tend to be reported more quickly anyway?

Was it for an offense in the game, or something you posted in the forums?

The statute of limitations ran out last week. It wasn't renewed.

Symmetry wrote:

Funkyterrance wrote:

AAFitz wrote:
I think it depends upon what was done.

If by this you mean that if it were a really big offense then the time between the offense and the actual reporting could be longer, wouldn't a bigger offense tend to be reported more quickly anyway?

Was it for an offense in the game, or something you posted in the forums?

I wasn't going to bring details into it but if it helps you answer the question it was an instance of retaliatory baiting on these forums. Can you even retaliate to a bait with a bait???

I think a CC murder should be open for at least 2 weeks.

Funkyterrance wrote:

Symmetry wrote:

Funkyterrance wrote:

AAFitz wrote:
I think it depends upon what was done.

If by this you mean that if it were a really big offense then the time between the offense and the actual reporting could be longer, wouldn't a bigger offense tend to be reported more quickly anyway?

Was it for an offense in the game, or something you posted in the forums?

I wasn't going to bring details into it but if it helps you answer the question it was an instance of baiting on these forums...

I asked because history of bad behavior in game tends to have a much longer period of relevance for mods. Forum stuff is more ephemeral.

I guess the questions to ask are, do you think you did something wrong? Or do you feel that the issue is just a time thing?

I'm not asking for details, just your opinion.

First of all you were not given an official warning.

I was contacted as well and you were only asked, we both were, to ignore each other, which I thought was great until you started crying again, trying to get others in your side. (Eventually you were going to reveal the case)

I knew you were going to do this, have I stated enough that you CRAVE others' approval?

Second, the reason I reported the post was as a to construct my case of what had happened, (that was not the only post I reported) as I mentioned before I was warned for my psot in your wall. I wrote in the report why was I reporting it, something like "reported as evidence for king achiles to see". Why did I do that? because you reported me, and I don't think you had the right after you had started it all. Besides, you reported me AND tried to publicly ridicule me? lol.

It seems to me that either rds didn't know I was talking to achiles and he was handling it or he decided to step up trying to get the issue resolved.

Again: you were not given an official warning. Furthermore I did not ask achiles for you to be banned or anything, I simply tried to create an antecedent in the case this escalates.

And that particular post isn't worthy of even a warning (by itself)IMO, as I said I was documenting my case.

Symmetry wrote:I guess the questions to ask are, do you think you did something wrong? Or do you feel that the issue is just a time thing?

I'm not asking for details, just your opinion.

As far as doing something wrong, I may well have in that I baited a bait. Considering the amount of baiting that goes on it's hard to point a finger in any direction and therefore I have never reported anyone for baiting.
My concern here is really the time issue, however. A legitimate complaint would have occurred more or less closely to when it was noticed. The delay in action leads one to believe that it was vindictive and not a legitimate complaint. I consider this abuse.

We need a garden of healing.

nietzsche wrote:First of all you were not given an official warning.

I was contacted as well and you were only asked, we both were, to ignore each other, which I thought was great until you started crying again, trying to get others in your side. (Eventually you were going to reveal the case)

I knew you were going to do this, have I stated enough that you CRAVE others' approval?

Second, the reason I reported the post was as a to construct my case of what had happened, (that was not the only post I reported) as I mentioned before I was warned for my psot in your wall. I wrote in the report why was I reporting it, something like "reported as evidence for king achiles to see". Why did I do that? because you reported me, and I don't think you had the right after you had started it all. Besides, you reported me AND tried to publicly ridicule me? lol.

It seems to me that either rds didn't know I was talking to achiles and he was handling it or he decided to step up trying to get the issue resolved.

Again: you were not given an official warning. Furthermore I did not ask achiles for you to be banned or anything, I simply tried to create an antecedent in the case this escalates.

And that particular post isn't worthy of even a warning (by itself)IMO, as I said I was documenting my case.

I hadn't mentioned any specifics as far as to the names and faces besides myself so this discussion was more or less anonymous... until now. I don't see how this could be construed as looking for approval since I haven't done anything in this thread to search for it. I am asking for people's opinions. What's wrong with that?

Funkyterrance wrote:

nietzsche wrote:First of all you were not given an official warning.

I was contacted as well and you were only asked, we both were, to ignore each other, which I thought was great until you started crying again, trying to get others in your side. (Eventually you were going to reveal the case)

I knew you were going to do this, have I stated enough that you CRAVE others' approval?

Second, the reason I reported the post was as a to construct my case of what had happened, (that was not the only post I reported) as I mentioned before I was warned for my psot in your wall. I wrote in the report why was I reporting it, something like "reported as evidence for king achiles to see". Why did I do that? because you reported me, and I don't think you had the right after you had started it all. Besides, you reported me AND tried to publicly ridicule me? lol.

It seems to me that either rds didn't know I was talking to achiles and he was handling it or he decided to step up trying to get the issue resolved.

Again: you were not given an official warning. Furthermore I did not ask achiles for you to be banned or anything, I simply tried to create an antecedent in the case this escalates.

And that particular post isn't worthy of even a warning (by itself)IMO, as I said I was documenting my case.

I hadn't mentioned any specifics as far as to the names and faces besides myself so this discussion was more or less anonymous... until now. I don't see how this could be construed as looking for approval since I haven't done anything in this thread to search for it. I am asking for people's opinions. What's wrong with that?

Yes, and I've never jerked off in my life.

Couldn't you find your penis?

This is my final post for you FunkyTerrance

After this I don't want to read anything from you.

Please stop playing the victim role in something you started. Please foe me so you don't read my posts and don't feel inclined to answer them. I do not enjoy this, did you see after my last message in that other thread I did not respond to you anymore? it was easy, I didn't read any of your posts again. But as soon I knew we both were contacted and asked to ignore each other, I knew you were going to post about it, because you have some beef, and unresolved issue with me, you will not rest until you have proven once and for all I'm bad.

As a token of good will, I will disappear from the forums for one week to give you time to adjust.

I really enjoy this place, I love the personalities around it. Please don't take that joy from me.

nietzsche wrote:This is my final post for you FunkyTerrance

Promise?



I'm not foeing anyone I don't want to though so you can forget about that. I ignored you and avoided any threads with you for several days and would have continued to if you hadn't reared your head in this one. I don't think anyone is asking you to leave, including myself but if you feel you need time to cool off of course that's entirely your decision. Just don't blame me for your leaving because it's not my decision.

Ok Funky, let's take some calls.

Ritchie from long island, what's on your mind?

It does take a while for moderators to make a decision in some instances. I think this is a good thing, not a bad one.

thegreekdog wrote:It does take a while for moderators to make a decision in some instances. I think this is a good thing, not a bad one.

If the delay in a report is due to deliberation on the mod's behalf I agree that it is absolutely a good thing. If the delay is due to an actual delay in reporting the offense it seems that the motive should be carefully scrutinized.

Funkyterrance wrote:

thegreekdog wrote:It does take a while for moderators to make a decision in some instances. I think this is a good thing, not a bad one.

If the delay in a report is due to deliberation on the mod's behalf I agree that it is absolutely a good thing. If the delay is due to an actual delay in reporting the offense it seems that the motive should be carefully scrutinized.

I think you may have a point- Nietzsche was very obviously vague about your key argument in the thread- the timing of the complaint, and made a significant effort to distract attention away from it.

While I don't think it's quite as awful as you think it is, Nietzsche doesn't exactly come out of this with flying colours. It certainly looks like he reported you vindictively, that you made this thread vindictively in response, and Nietzsche replied vindictively in thread.

The mod response that you should both knock it off seems like the right solution.

2dimes wrote:We need a garden of healing.

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