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Phatscotty wrote:please change your threads name to "Romney follows the law"

wait, unless an American citizen got drone attacked and killed by this loophole?

Phatscotty wrote:please change your threads name to "Romney follows the law"

wait, unless an American citizen got drone attacked and killed by this loophole?

Woodruff wrote:

Phatscotty wrote:please change your threads name to "Romney follows the law"

wait, unless an American citizen got drone attacked and killed by this loophole?

Billionaire uses tax loopholes to bring his taxes down to zero = "He's being smart."
Homeless mother uses food stamps to buy dinner so her kids don't starve = "OMG WELFARE QUEEN!!!!"

Look, it's certainly true that he didn't break the law and I don't think he should be
villified for this, honestly. It's not an unusual situation (unfortunately). That being said, I
think it does call into question the personal ethics of the man, which is something that
I personally think should be considered in an election (of pretty much any nature).

Dukasaur wrote:

Woodruff wrote:

Phatscotty wrote:please change your threads name to "Romney follows the law"

wait, unless an American citizen got drone attacked and killed by this loophole?

Billionaire uses tax loopholes to bring his taxes down to zero = "He's being smart."
Homeless mother uses food stamps to buy dinner so her kids don't starve = "OMG WELFARE QUEEN!!!!"

Look, it's certainly true that he didn't break the law and I don't think he should be
villified for this, honestly. It's not an unusual situation (unfortunately). That being said, I
think it does call into question the personal ethics of the man, which is something that
I personally think should be considered in an election (of pretty much any nature).

Just in case Scotty is unable to read your post, I'll quote it for him....

Woodruff wrote:

Phatscotty wrote:please change your threads name to "Romney follows the law"

wait, unless an American citizen got drone attacked and killed by this loophole?

Billionaire uses tax loopholes to bring his taxes down to zero = "He's being smart."
Homeless mother uses food stamps to buy dinner so her kids don't starve = "OMG WELFARE QUEEN!!!!"

Look, it's certainly true that he didn't break the law and I don't think he should be
villified for this, honestly. It's not an unusual situation (unfortunately). That being said, I
think it does call into question the personal ethics of the man, which is something that
I personally think should be considered in an election (of pretty much any nature).

thegreekdog wrote:

Woodruff wrote:

Phatscotty wrote:please change your threads name to "Romney follows the law"

wait, unless an American citizen got drone attacked and killed by this loophole?

Billionaire uses tax loopholes to bring his taxes down to zero = "He's being smart."
Homeless mother uses food stamps to buy dinner so her kids don't starve = "OMG WELFARE QUEEN!!!!"

Look, it's certainly true that he didn't break the law and I don't think he should be
villified for this, honestly. It's not an unusual situation (unfortunately). That being said, I
think it does call into question the personal ethics of the man, which is something that
I personally think should be considered in an election (of pretty much any nature).

Not a loophole.

The more people that refer to these as loopholes, the more people will ignore the lobbying that gets those tax provisions passed.

Phatscotty wrote:

Dukasaur wrote:

Woodruff wrote:

Phatscotty wrote:please change your threads name to "Romney follows the law"

wait, unless an American citizen got drone attacked and killed by this loophole?

Billionaire uses tax loopholes to bring his taxes down to zero = "He's being smart."
Homeless mother uses food stamps to buy dinner so her kids don't starve = "OMG WELFARE QUEEN!!!!"

Look, it's certainly true that he didn't break the law and I don't think he should be
villified for this, honestly. It's not an unusual situation (unfortunately). That being said, I
think it does call into question the personal ethics of the man, which is something that
I personally think should be considered in an election (of pretty much any nature).

Just in case Scotty is unable to read your post, I'll quote it for him....

I'm well aware of the strategy of stating extremes based on stereotypes and then playing on people emotions and compassion.

Phatscotty wrote:I just don't think the OP is anywhere close to a valid attack, or whatever it's supposed to be to make Romney look bad

Woodruff wrote:

Phatscotty wrote:please change your threads name to "Romney follows the law"

wait, unless an American citizen got drone attacked and killed by this loophole?

Billionaire uses tax loopholes to bring his taxes down to zero = "He's being smart."
Homeless mother uses food stamps to buy dinner so her kids don't starve = "OMG WELFARE QUEEN!!!!"

Woodruff wrote:Look, it's certainly true that he didn't break the law and I don't think he should be
villified for this, honestly. It's not an unusual situation (unfortunately). That being said, I
think it does call into question the personal ethics of the man, which is something that
I personally think should be considered in an election (of pretty much any nature).

Phatscotty wrote:anything they don't agree with is unethical, and it's not possible they could be wrong because they are right and everyone must agree with their interpretation of what is ethical

Night Strike wrote:

Woodruff wrote:

Phatscotty wrote:please change your threads name to "Romney follows the law"

wait, unless an American citizen got drone attacked and killed by this loophole?

Billionaire uses tax loopholes to bring his taxes down to zero = "He's being smart."
Homeless mother uses food stamps to buy dinner so her kids don't starve = "OMG WELFARE QUEEN!!!!"

You're equating a person who wants to keep more of their own money to someone who is getting handouts from others?

Night Strike wrote:

Woodruff wrote:Look, it's certainly true that he didn't break the law and I don't think he should be
villified for this, honestly. It's not an unusual situation (unfortunately). That being said, I
think it does call into question the personal ethics of the man, which is something that
I personally think should be considered in an election (of pretty much any nature).

So it's now unethical to take deductions to lower the amount of taxes one has to pay and to raise the amount of money one gets to keep?

Phatscotty wrote:anything they don't agree with is unethical, and it's not possible they could be wrong because they are right and everyone must agree with their interpretation of what is ethical

Woodruff wrote:

Phatscotty wrote:anything they don't agree with is unethical, and it's not possible they could be wrong because they are right and everyone must agree with their interpretation of what is ethical

Thanks, Fox News.

Woodruff wrote:

Night Strike wrote:

Woodruff wrote:

Phatscotty wrote:please change your threads name to "Romney follows the law"

wait, unless an American citizen got drone attacked and killed by this loophole?

Billionaire uses tax loopholes to bring his taxes down to zero = "He's being smart."
Homeless mother uses food stamps to buy dinner so her kids don't starve = "OMG WELFARE QUEEN!!!!"

You're equating a person who wants to keep more of their own money to someone who is getting handouts from others?

I am equating ethics. I realize that ethics aren't particularly important to you Christians, but try to put yourself in someone else's shoes for a change.

Woodruff wrote:

Night Strike wrote:

Woodruff wrote:Look, it's certainly true that he didn't break the law and I don't think he should be
villified for this, honestly. It's not an unusual situation (unfortunately). That being said, I
think it does call into question the personal ethics of the man, which is something that
I personally think should be considered in an election (of pretty much any nature).

So it's now unethical to take deductions to lower the amount of taxes one has to pay and to raise the amount of money one gets to keep?

I think it says quite a lot about an individual who wants to be President, yes.

Avoiding taxes is as American as apple pie

Symmetry wrote:NS- do you believe that Romney's avoidance of taxes is ethically right, and also morally right for a president? Do you make a distinction between ethics and morals?

Phatscotty wrote:

Symmetry wrote:NS- do you believe that Romney's avoidance of taxes is ethically right, and also morally right for a president? Do you make a distinction between ethics and morals?

you would have a point if Romney's opponent had never written anything off or taken any deductions.....

thegreekdog wrote:There is no law requiring that people pay the taxes as calculated pursuant to the Internal Revenue Code. If Mitt Romney or Barack Obama or Warren Buffett wish to pay more taxes, they could pay more taxes. I don't find it relevant to political races how much a politician pays in taxes unless and until his or her opponent voluntarily pays more taxes than the Internal Revenue Code says his or her owes.