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Who feels secure??

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:41 pm
by warmonger1981
Security is an illusion created by institution to keep us moving to the job,bank or store. If all shit hit the fan and civilization started to fall how secure will you feel then? Do you have food or water? Can you make your own shelter or fend off looters without police? PROBABLY NOT! How secure do you feel now knowing all this could happen overnight??

Re: Who feels secure??

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:44 pm
by Symmetry
I'm not joining your cult, sorry.

Re: Who feels secure??

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:47 pm
by AndyDufresne
Something is always out there, on the other side of the whatever you think keeps you safe. But generally, aside from a random mugging possibility or break-in, I feel pretty safe and secure.


--Andy

Re: Who feels secure??

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:19 pm
by Phatscotty
warmonger1981 wrote:Security is an illusion created by institution to keep us moving to the job,bank or store. If all shit hit the fan and civilization started to fall how secure will you feel then? Do you have food or water? Can you make your own shelter or fend off looters without police? PROBABLY NOT! How secure do you feel now knowing all this could happen overnight??


you mean, like a collapse of faith in the US dollar????

Re: Who feels secure??

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:22 pm
by Haggis_McMutton
Security is an illusion created by institution to keep us moving to the job,bank or store. If all shit hit the fan and a meteorite hit your house how secure will you feel then? Do you have an astronomical observatory set up to guard against this posibility? Can you make a shelter that would survive such an impact or fend off the geologists that would show up within minutes without police assistance? PROBABLY NOT! How secure do you feel now knowing all this could happen overnight??

Re: Who feels secure??

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:53 pm
by kentington
I am pretty sure I actually shook the security guards hand.
Illusions are securities created by online posters to keep us moving to the lap top, pc, or mac. If all that stuff hit the fan and everything turned real how illusory would you feel then? Do you have a 3D recorder and holographic projections system set up to guard against this possibility? Can you make a shelter that would feed eye candy to the police? PROBABLY NOT! How disillusioned do you feel now knowing all this could happen overnight??

Re: Who feels secure??

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:58 pm
by DoomYoshi
I wear Depends to give me comfort and security.

Re: Who feels secure??

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:19 pm
by AndyDufresne
Security is an illusion created by institution to keep us moving to the job,bank or store. If all shit hit the fan and a computer virus wiped out all of earth's electrical grids, how secure would you feel then? Do you have a bicycle generator set up to guard against this posibility? Can you make a shelter that would survive such a development or fend off the mass of tweens that would show up within minutes to charge their Iphone and Ipads without police assistance? PROBABLY NOT! How secure do you feel now knowing all this could happen overnight??

This is a fun game.


--Andy

Re: Who feels secure??

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:45 pm
by warmonger1981
With all the new shows on Tv with doomsday and 2012 shit just wondering if people are really concerned with how easy things can change or if people are at least a little prepared for such. I'm not to worried. It would take a real shit storm for something to happen but I also try to be prepared for tragedies.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:47 pm
by 2dimes
Will the computers really stop just because they think it's 1900 instead of 2000?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:51 pm
by DoomYoshi
2dimes wrote:Will the computers really stop just because they think it's 1900 instead of 2000?


MY CAPSLOCK IS ON BECAUSE OF Y@J

Re: Who feels secure??

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:14 pm
by nietzsche
Fear is an emotion.

It can be mastered.

Re: Who feels secure??

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:27 pm
by jonesthecurl
nietzsche wrote:Fear is an emotion.

It can be mastered.


Just before the T-rex eats you.

Re: Who feels secure??

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:34 pm
by warmonger1981
Wanna know what's more persuasive than fear? Hope.

Re: Who feels secure??

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:16 am
by TA1LGUNN3R
nietzsche wrote:Fear is an emotion.

It can be mastered.


...awaiting Litany against Fear.

-TG

Re: Who feels secure??

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:17 am
by jimboston
warmonger1981 wrote:Security is an illusion created by institution to keep us moving to the job,bank or store. If all shit hit the fan and civilization started to fall how secure will you feel then? Do you have food or water? Can you make your own shelter or fend off looters without police? PROBABLY NOT! How secure do you feel now knowing all this could happen overnight??


... um...

Col. Jessup from "A Few Good Men" wrote:You can't handle the truth! Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lieutenant Weinberg? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom! You weep for Santiago and you curse the Marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives! You don't want the truth, because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall! You need me on that wall! We use words like "honor", "code", "loyalty". We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline! I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it! I would rather you just said "Thank you," and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to!


... and ...
Franklin Delano Roosevelt wrote:So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself—nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance.


... on a serious note...

If the shit hit the fan, yeah some people who are "prepared" would have a "leg up". In many cases it wouldn't matter. I think (if your worried about it) preparing your skills (i.e. hunting, hiking, physical fitness, fire making, camping) these would benefit you the most. With the hunting part... you'd want to be proficient with both a bow and gun... and have both.

Storing lots of food and having a generator is probably useless (depending on where you live)... if you live in an urban area you're likely going to have to move, and so having all that stuff stored won't help, and may just attract nutjobs.

Storing a small amount of food might be good. Storing some seeds for future use (once things settle) would be nice. Maybe having multiple small storage locations; like burying some food water in some woods.... at different locations and distances from your house/starting point... that would be good. You may never use them... but you'd possible have some backup.

Depending on the type of catastrophe and how fast it explodes... these preparations may all be helpful or may all be meaningless.

I do enjoy watching shows like The Walking Dead or (the new show) Revolution... which are all these post apocalypse type shows. Interesting to see different people's takes on the idea.

Re: Who feels secure??

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:10 am
by warmonger1981
Yeah I worry more of a natural disaster than anything. I see how well our government works in a natural disaster so I figure screw them I'm not gonna wait in line for 6 hrs everyday for weeks to get help. There seems to be alot of propaganda on Tv for something to happen.

Re: Who feels secure??

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:57 am
by DoomYoshi
In general people who live in the country are more prepared for natural disasters. Most garages in rural Ontario feature a snowblower, generator, space heater, snowmobile/skis/snowshoes and most importantly a gun. The key is simple: don't live in a city.

Re: Who feels secure??

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:59 pm
by jimboston
DoomYoshi wrote:In general people who live in the country are more prepared for natural disasters. Most garages in rural Ontario feature a snowblower, generator, space heater, snowmobile/skis/snowshoes and most importantly a gun. The key is simple: don't live in a city.


The gangs in some cities might do fine.

I think if you're a player in a city gang you'd do quite well. It's all the other schmucks who should move out.

At some point (depending on how bad things got) the gangs would start to have an advantage over the police. The gangs are local / parochial... and most members live near each other or in clusters. Some police live in the city (at least in Boston), but NOT all. Many commute from the burbs. These police would start to abandon their posts, to get back to (or stay with) their family. A couple of the nicer sections of the city (again I use Boston as my example) have a high percentage of residents who are on the force. In these neighborhoods the would reign... but eventually they would begin to look like their own gang or militia.

At what point (how bad or how "not bad") do things have to get for the gangs / police / militia begin to act like warlords?; "taxing" the people who still live in the area they control? At some point this would start... but if it's "true Armageddon" then people might die faster than this is able to take place. In Robert Kirkman's "The Walking Dead", the cities are vacant for the most part... everyone dead or a walker. In the TV Show "Revolution", lots died in the cities... but people still live there and are "taxed" but the regional militias.

Re: Who feels secure??

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:13 pm
by DoomYoshi
The police are a gang, so I don't understand your next 2 statements.