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The Perfect Storm: MSM Complicit

PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:46 am
by Phatscotty
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Greg Hunter USAWatchdog.com

It’s hard to believe how little Americans know about the real issues facing them after $6 billion was spent by both parties getting their message out (a record $2 billion for President alone). I don’t blame the politicians in this or any election cycle. After all, why talk about tough issues and choices if you are not pressured to do so. I blame the mainstream media (MSM) for acting more like cheerleaders and spin doctors than arbiters of truth for the public. The MSM ignored the real issues while spending hours (weeks/months) on things like the Trayvon Martin tragedy. I do not know who is at fault, but I do know the MSM’s wall-to-wall coverage inferred there was a national problem of white on black murder when there is none. According to the latest FBI information, around 90% of blacks are killed by black people (likewise for the white on white murder rate).

The U.S. faces a financial storm of biblical proportions; I am talking a Noah’s Ark tsunami. The real fiscal cliff isn’t what is coming at the end of the year. It is the debasement of the U.S. dollar at the hands of the Federal Reserve that is printing $85 billion every month in “open-ended” currency creation. According to experts, it is only a matter of time before the U.S. bond market collapses with an interest rate spike that money manager Michael Pento says will turn into “an interest rate shock that will make the Great Depression look like the days of wine and roses.” Not a word in the debates or questions by the MSM to the candidates about money printing on a scale that has never been done in human history.

The 2008 financial meltdown was caused by a housing crisis created by big banks. They sold “liar loans,” packaged those loans into mortgage-backed securities, they were rated “Triple-A” when they were “toxic;” and when it all blew sky high, the bankers committed forgery, perjury and fraud that was politely called “robo-signing.” According to Professor William Black, who was also a top regulator in the Savings and Loan crisis of the 1980’s, more than 1,000 financial elites were successfully prosecuted in the aftermath of the S&L calamity. The 2008 meltdown was 70 times larger. There has not been a single financial elite charged with a crime. This fraud and crime is one of the main reasons the economy is still in deep trouble. According to Fabian Calvo of TheNoteHouse.us, “We haven’t even scratched the surface of being at the bottom of the housing market.” (His company buys and sells $100 million a year in real estate and sour mortgage debt.) $40 billion of the $85 billion the Fed prints every month is going for continued banker bailouts. You can talk all you want about raising taxes on rich, but the real money is in the banker bailouts. No meaningful discussion or questions were asked of the Presidential candidates on this subject either.

It has been widely reported the U.S. used al-Qaeda terrorists to help overthrow the Libyan government. It is doing the same thing in Syria. We all saw the results of this policy on 9/11/12 in Libya where four Americans (including a U.S. Ambassador) were killed in an al-Qaeda terrorist attack. Calls for help went unanswered, even though there was a live Internet video feed going into the White House situation room. No questions were asked by the MSM of either candidate of the logic and danger of this kind of foreign policy.

The President can legally order the execution of any U.S. citizen without due process. The President did just that last year when he ordered drone strikes in Yemen that killed three suspected American born terrorists. Relatives are suing the U.S. government for wrongful-death. According to a New York Times story, “The killings violated fundamental rights afforded to all U.S. citizens, including the right not to be deprived of life without due process of law,’ the complaint says.” (Click here for the NYT story.) There was not a single question asked of either Presidential candidate by the MSM about Presidential “license to kill.”

Finally, the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) was signed into law by President Obama on New Year’s Eve 2011. It allows for the indefinite detention of suspected terrorists which includes U.S. citizens. This law overrides due process contained in the Constitution. The President’s signing statement says, “I want to clarify that my Administration will not authorize the indefinite military detention without trial of American citizens.” But that didn’t stop President Obama, a Constitutional scholar, from signing it into law anyway. The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) called this act “. . . a stain on our nation’s history – one that will ultimately be viewed with embarrassment and shame.” (Click here for more on the story.) You can’t get more liberal than the ACLU; and, yet, the left and right were silent and asked no questions of either Presidential candidate about this Constitutional atrocity.

The general public is blind to the great danger to the economy and our Republic. I lay the blame squarely at the feet of the MSM for not doing its job for the public good. PIMCO chief Bill Gross summed it all up in a tweet on Election Day that said, “Gross: Whew! It’s over. To the victor belongs the spoils of political power but to the US voter only continuing frustration will accrue.”


http://usawatchdog.com/msm-ignored-real-issues/

Re: The Perfect Storm: MSM Complicit

PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:35 am
by Dukasaur
Yup. The much-trumpeted "free and independent media" (the same that swallowed the Warren Commission Report hook, line, and sinker, not to mention other famous fairy tales like Saddam's WMDs) will give you a lead story about a candidate's wife getting a new hairdo while your life savings are handed over to the career criminals on Wall Street, and "habeas corpus" is a quaint old term that brings a smirk to any Federal prosecutor's face.

Re: The Perfect Storm: MSM Complicit

PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:39 am
by Phatscotty
Dukasaur wrote:Yup. The much-trumpeted "free and independent media" (the same that swallowed the Warren Commission Report hook, line, and sinker, not to mention other famous fairy tales like Saddam's WMDs) will give you a lead story about a candidate's wife getting a new hairdo while your life savings are handed over to the career criminals on Wall Street, and "habeas corpus" is a quaint old term that brings a smirk to any Federal prosecutor's face.


Good one. I'll never forget Keith Olbermann, and all of CNN and MSNBC, ABC, CBS, and NBC, pushing for the invasion of Iraq in 2001, or the 98-1 vote in the Senate to authorize the president special military powers, with the media fully pushing the narrative.

Re: The Perfect Storm: MSM Complicit

PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:20 pm
by thegreekdog
I also read somewhere that the senate is considering a bill that would permit the government to read emails and the NSA apparently can already do that (thanks to an executive order signed in October).

But hey, Obama is a socialist, Romney is a rich fatcat and Honey Boo Boo is on.

Re: The Perfect Storm: MSM Complicit

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:14 pm
by ManBungalow
ta;dr

Re: The Perfect Storm: MSM Complicit

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:52 pm
by Dukasaur
ManBungalow wrote:ta;dr

ta?

too appropriate?

Re: The Perfect Storm: MSM Complicit

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:21 pm
by Symmetry
More quickly, the TLDR version is that people are still harping on about the "mainstream media" being Romney's problem.

Re: The Perfect Storm: MSM Complicit

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:55 pm
by Dukasaur
Symmetry wrote:More quickly, the TLDR version is that people are still harping on about the "mainstream media" being Romney's problem.

I think you're missing the point. It's actually a fairly balanced article, and it points out that the media gave both candidates a free pass on any substantive issue.

Re: The Perfect Storm: MSM Complicit

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:15 pm
by Symmetry
Dukasaur wrote:
Symmetry wrote:More quickly, the TLDR version is that people are still harping on about the "mainstream media" being Romney's problem.

I think you're missing the point. It's actually a fairly balanced article, and it points out that the media gave both candidates a free pass on any substantive issue.


Or perhaps, more accurately, you got conned again, by Phatscotty with a con-job rightwing website run by a failed political hack.

Re: The Perfect Storm: MSM Complicit

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:37 pm
by Dukasaur
Symmetry wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
Symmetry wrote:More quickly, the TLDR version is that people are still harping on about the "mainstream media" being Romney's problem.

I think you're missing the point. It's actually a fairly balanced article, and it points out that the media gave both candidates a free pass on any substantive issue.


Or perhaps, more accurately, you got conned again, by Phatscotty with a con-job rightwing website run by a failed political hack.

And yet again you're interested in ad hominem attacks on the messenger instead of discussing the content of the message.

I'm tired of trying to be reasonable with you. When have something to say that involves the substance of a message instead of cheap thrill character assassination, let me know.

Re: The Perfect Storm: MSM Complicit

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:47 pm
by Symmetry
Dukasaur wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
Symmetry wrote:More quickly, the TLDR version is that people are still harping on about the "mainstream media" being Romney's problem.

I think you're missing the point. It's actually a fairly balanced article, and it points out that the media gave both candidates a free pass on any substantive issue.


Or perhaps, more accurately, you got conned again, by Phatscotty with a con-job rightwing website run by a failed political hack.

And yet again you're interested in ad hominem attacks on the messenger instead of discussing the content of the message.

I'm tired of trying to be reasonable with you. When have something to say that involves the substance of a message instead of cheap thrill character assassination, let me know.


I'll never tire of pointing out how you're a bit of an easy con for this stuff, just as I doubt this will be the last time you tell me that you're not going to talk to me anymore.

It's a cycle we have going- I tell you that you're being conned, you get upset because you don't like being told that you've bought into another extreme right wing con job, you tell me that you won't talk to me anymore.

And then the cycle repeats.

Re: The Perfect Storm: MSM Complicit

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:13 pm
by Phatscotty
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Re: The Perfect Storm: MSM Complicit

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:19 pm
by Symmetry
I missed out the Phatscottty starting to post random pictures and vids step Dukasaur.

Re: The Perfect Storm: MSM Complicit

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:02 pm
by thegreekdog
Symmetry wrote:More quickly, the TLDR version is that people are still harping on about the "mainstream media" being Romney's problem.


How can you give a TLDR version when you clearly didn't read it?

Go back and read the quoted portion of the post. After you've read it, please answer this question - If you were a U.S. citizen, would any of the items mentioned above bother you? If it helps, Mitt Romney would have done all of the same things as president; this is not a partisan thing. Your last two months of trolling and baiting aside... seriously, would any of these things bother you?

Re: The Perfect Storm: MSM Complicit

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:27 pm
by Symmetry
thegreekdog wrote:
Symmetry wrote:More quickly, the TLDR version is that people are still harping on about the "mainstream media" being Romney's problem.


How can you give a TLDR version when you clearly didn't read it?

Go back and read the quoted portion of the post. After you've read it, please answer this question - If you were a U.S. citizen, would any of the items mentioned above bother you? If it helps, Mitt Romney would have done all of the same things as president; this is not a partisan thing. Your last two months of trolling and baiting aside... seriously, would any of these things bother you?


It would possibly bother me if I was the kind of person who took their information from obscure wing-nut websites. Alas, I am not,

Re: The Perfect Storm: MSM Complicit

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:36 pm
by thegreekdog
Symmetry wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
Symmetry wrote:More quickly, the TLDR version is that people are still harping on about the "mainstream media" being Romney's problem.


How can you give a TLDR version when you clearly didn't read it?

Go back and read the quoted portion of the post. After you've read it, please answer this question - If you were a U.S. citizen, would any of the items mentioned above bother you? If it helps, Mitt Romney would have done all of the same things as president; this is not a partisan thing. Your last two months of trolling and baiting aside... seriously, would any of these things bother you?


It would possibly bother me if I was the kind of person who took their information from obscure wing-nut websites. Alas, I am not,


So you don't believe that the federal government has killed American citizens without due process in the past four or more years or that the NDAA passed or that the fiscal cliff is coming or that the senate is seriously considering a bill to allow the federal government to read emails without a warrant?

You're a weird dude.

Re: The Perfect Storm: MSM Complicit

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:55 pm
by Symmetry
thegreekdog wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
Symmetry wrote:More quickly, the TLDR version is that people are still harping on about the "mainstream media" being Romney's problem.


How can you give a TLDR version when you clearly didn't read it?

Go back and read the quoted portion of the post. After you've read it, please answer this question - If you were a U.S. citizen, would any of the items mentioned above bother you? If it helps, Mitt Romney would have done all of the same things as president; this is not a partisan thing. Your last two months of trolling and baiting aside... seriously, would any of these things bother you?


It would possibly bother me if I was the kind of person who took their information from obscure wing-nut websites. Alas, I am not,


So you don't believe that the federal government has killed American citizens without due process in the past four or more years or that the NDAA passed or that the fiscal cliff is coming or that the senate is seriously considering a bill to allow the federal government to read emails without a warrant?

You're a weird dude.


I'm remarkably sure that's not what I said. I very literally have the remark. And it's not what I said. Seriously dude, the remark is in your post above this one where I tell you how remarkably wrong you are about my remark.

Re: The Perfect Storm: MSM Complicit

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:36 am
by ManBungalow
Dukasaur wrote:
ManBungalow wrote:ta;dr

ta?

too appropriate?

Too American

Re: The Perfect Storm: MSM Complicit

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:44 am
by thegreekdog
Symmetry wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
Symmetry wrote:More quickly, the TLDR version is that people are still harping on about the "mainstream media" being Romney's problem.


How can you give a TLDR version when you clearly didn't read it?

Go back and read the quoted portion of the post. After you've read it, please answer this question - If you were a U.S. citizen, would any of the items mentioned above bother you? If it helps, Mitt Romney would have done all of the same things as president; this is not a partisan thing. Your last two months of trolling and baiting aside... seriously, would any of these things bother you?


It would possibly bother me if I was the kind of person who took their information from obscure wing-nut websites. Alas, I am not,


So you don't believe that the federal government has killed American citizens without due process in the past four or more years or that the NDAA passed or that the fiscal cliff is coming or that the senate is seriously considering a bill to allow the federal government to read emails without a warrant?

You're a weird dude.


I'm remarkably sure that's not what I said. I very literally have the remark. And it's not what I said. Seriously dude, the remark is in your post above this one where I tell you how remarkably wrong you are about my remark.


Sigh...

http://www.aclu.org/blog/tag/ndaa --> ACLU

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/nat ... story.html --> Washington Post

http://www.dailytech.com/Senator+Pushes ... e29238.htm --> Daily Tech.com

Re: The Perfect Storm: MSM Complicit

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 3:38 pm
by Symmetry
thegreekdog wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
Symmetry wrote:More quickly, the TLDR version is that people are still harping on about the "mainstream media" being Romney's problem.


How can you give a TLDR version when you clearly didn't read it?

Go back and read the quoted portion of the post. After you've read it, please answer this question - If you were a U.S. citizen, would any of the items mentioned above bother you? If it helps, Mitt Romney would have done all of the same things as president; this is not a partisan thing. Your last two months of trolling and baiting aside... seriously, would any of these things bother you?


It would possibly bother me if I was the kind of person who took their information from obscure wing-nut websites. Alas, I am not,


So you don't believe that the federal government has killed American citizens without due process in the past four or more years or that the NDAA passed or that the fiscal cliff is coming or that the senate is seriously considering a bill to allow the federal government to read emails without a warrant?

You're a weird dude.


I'm remarkably sure that's not what I said. I very literally have the remark. And it's not what I said. Seriously dude, the remark is in your post above this one where I tell you how remarkably wrong you are about my remark.


Sigh...

http://www.aclu.org/blog/tag/ndaa --> ACLU

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/nat ... story.html --> Washington Post

http://www.dailytech.com/Senator+Pushes ... e29238.htm --> Daily Tech.com


I'm pretty sure you're simply trolling at this point. We're now talking about some other weird bit of the conspiracy you find yourself being conned in to.

Get out while you have the chance TGD!

Re: The Perfect Storm: MSM Complicit

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 8:35 pm
by thegreekdog
I suppose this is officially your thing now. Best of luck little buddy!

Re: The Perfect Storm: MSM Complicit

PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:32 pm
by Phatscotty
Seriously, did any of the 3 debates, ever at one time, mention "fiscal cliff"?

Re: The Perfect Storm: MSM Complicit

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:34 am
by thegreekdog
Phatscotty wrote:Seriously, did any of the 3 debates, ever at one time, mention "fiscal cliff"?


Please stop with this. The fiscal cliff is fake news and fake politics. They will "fix" the "problem" before we get to the "fiscal cliff."

Re: The Perfect Storm: MSM Complicit

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:09 pm
by Phatscotty
thegreekdog wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:Seriously, did any of the 3 debates, ever at one time, mention "fiscal cliff"?


Please stop with this. The fiscal cliff is fake news and fake politics. They will "fix" the "problem" before we get to the "fiscal cliff."


well, yup, that's the point.
nevermind, carry on