How do you view others on the site?

[Ray Rider]

Out of curiousity, how would you rate the political leaning of your fellow forum-goers on this site, using the standard, meaningless left wing-moderate-right wing scale? The reason I want us to use this scale even though it's meaningless is because when you get right down it, (almost) everyone degenerates into using this simplistic method of classification when trying to characterize those who oppose them. It's either "those right wing, crazy conservatives" or "those left wing, crazy liberals" that are ruining the country.

If possible, list one one or two people you see as far left, one or two that you see as hard right, and then list as many moderates as you can.

For me it would be:

Far left:
Juan Bottom
Player

Far Right:
Phatscotty
Nightstrike

Moderate:
TheGreekDog
BBS

I honestly don't see very many people as moderates on here, but maybe I just don't know people's political leanings well enough.

[rdsrds2120]

Far Left
Symmetry
natty dread

Far Right
HapSmo
john9blue

Moderate
Woodruff
crispybits(?)

BMO

[Funkyterrance]

I would say the vibe of this site is strongly liberal. There are a few right wingers who post a lot but I think their numbers are actually pretty small. You guys have already named the big posters on either side of the spectrum but if anything I think most posters are somewhere between the middle and the left.

[john9blue]

the left-right spectrum is woefully inaccurate IMO

Far Right
HapSmo
john9blue

define "far-right"

[Serbia]

I view them on my laptop. I've only viewed a few people from this site in person. One of them I'm viewing right now.

[Phatscotty]

How can I really be that far right when I don't really have opinions one way or the other on:
-religion
-abortion
-death penalty

not to mention,
- I want to cut the military

I'll agree I am far right fiscally, but not socially

[Phatscotty]

Far Left: AAfitz, Symmetry, Nattydread, Metsfan

Center-Left: Evil Semp, Woodruff, Lootifer, RDS

Moderate: Starazer

Center Right: John Blue, Tzor, BBS, Greekdog

MEEEEEEE! Although I guarantee if a Republican were president, I would be viewed as to the center and even on the left.

Far Right: Thornheart

[BigBallinStalin]

I love false dichotomies! Let's begin!

Left
(The lefties get the color red because deep down inside, they're a bunch of Commies! They ultimately rely on coercing others and stealing their money via the state in order to promote their policies. Jerks!)
1. Symmetry, stahrgazer, player, Juan Bottom, MeDeFe
2. Lootifer, RDS-BMO, Mets, natty_dread, InkL0sed, AAfitz, Haggis


Right
(they get blue because they're the good guys)
1. Night Strike, PhatScotty, HapSmo, THORNH3ART
2. TGD, saxi, BBS, Woodruff, Ray Rider, john9blue, tzor,


The names in the #1 category are lost causes. Woo-hoo!
Those in #2 are moderate.

-----------------> BONUS CATEGORY!!!! <----------------------

Drunk
Serbia
nagerous
pimpdave
AoG

[saxitoxin]

utilitarian - motivation for position seems to be idea of possible personal benefit
ideological - motivation for position seems to be idea of possible communal benefit

Utilitarian: Extreme Right
fruitcake, barackattack

Ideological: Extreme Right
Night Strike, PhatScotty, Ray Rider, john9blue, HapSmo, tzor

Utilitarian: Right Wing
Juan_Bottom, Player 57832, stahrgazer, InkL0sed

Ideological: Right Wing
the Greek Dog, BBS, Woodruff, Symmetry

Utilitarian: Center Right
N/A

Ideological: Center Right
Lootifer, Baron Von PWN, MetsFanMax, Haggis

Center
Natty Dread, MeDeFe

Ideological Center Left
GreecePWNS

Utilitarian Center Left
N/A

Ideological Left Wing
N/A

Utilitarian Left Wing
N/A

Red Banner Movement of the Vanguard of the Revolutionary Leviathan
Saxitoxin, Swiss Tony

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chang50

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I think that certain users here are so far left and/or far right that they have caused the spectrum to turn into a circular loop by virtue of the horseshoe theory, thus using either term at this point has become meaningless.

[chang50]

utilitarian - motivation for position seems to be idea of possible personal benefit
ideological - motivation for position seems to be idea of possible communal benefit

Utilitarian: Extreme Right
fruitcake, barackattack

Ideological: Extreme Right
Night Strike, PhatScotty, Ray Rider, john9blue, HapSmo, tzor

Utilitarian: Right Wing
Juan_Bottom, Player 57832, stahrgazer, InkL0sed

Ideological: Right Wing
the Greek Dog, BBS, Woodruff, Symmetry

Utilitarian: Center Right
N/A

Ideological: Center Right
Lootifer, Baron Von PWN, MetsFanMax, Haggis

Center
Natty Dread, MeDeFe

Ideological Center Left
GreecePWNS

Utilitarian Center Left
N/A

Ideological Left Wing
N/A

Utilitarian Left Wing
N/A

Red Banner Movement of the Vanguard of the Revolutionary Leviathan
Saxitoxin, Swiss Tony

Need More Info
chang50

Always saw myself as broadly centre-left but maybe I am too close to judge accurately.Generally this forum seems right of centre because it is dominated by posters from a right of centre country.

[chang50]

I think that certain users here are so far left and/or far right that they have caused the spectrum to turn into a circular loop by virtue of the horseshoe theory, thus using either term at this point has become meaningless.

I can't think of one representative of the far left here..

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I think that certain users here are so far left and/or far right that they have caused the spectrum to turn into a circular loop by virtue of the horseshoe theory, thus using either term at this point has become meaningless.

I can't think of one representative of the far left here..

Perhaps not so much economically extreme left, but I've seen quite a bit of the anarchistic, secularist, political correctness, or green "left" elements.

[john9blue]

Always saw myself as broadly centre-left but maybe I am too close to judge accurately.

you can't be "broadly centre-left" unless you hold a few right-wing views.

[kentington]

Since I didn't get placed, can I be Far-Out?

[BigBallinStalin]

utilitarian - motivation for position seems to be idea of possible personal benefit
ideological - motivation for position seems to be idea of possible communal benefit

Utilitarian: Extreme Right
fruitcake, barackattack

Ideological: Extreme Right
Night Strike, PhatScotty, Ray Rider, john9blue, HapSmo, tzor

Utilitarian: Right Wing
Juan_Bottom, Player 57832, stahrgazer, InkL0sed

Ideological: Right Wing
the Greek Dog, BBS, Woodruff, Symmetry

Utilitarian: Center Right
N/A

Ideological: Center Right
Lootifer, Baron Von PWN, MetsFanMax, Haggis

Center
Natty Dread, MeDeFe

Ideological Center Left
GreecePWNS

Utilitarian Center Left
N/A

Ideological Left Wing
N/A

Utilitarian Left Wing
N/A

Red Banner Movement of the Vanguard of the Revolutionary Leviathan
Saxitoxin, Swiss Tony

Need More Info
chang50

Gentlemen, don't be fooled. Saxitoxin has in his closet a small sanctuary dedicated to Ronald Reagan, which is next to the sanctuary for Liam Neeson.

[BigBallinStalin]

Since I didn't get placed, can I be Far-Out?

You may be green, but you're definitely red on the inside, you watermelon communist.

[crispybits]

Is this based on the political theory central dividing point or the dividing point between the right and left in US politics - because by the general theory Obama is right of center.

[chang50]

Is this based on the political theory central dividing point or the dividing point between the right and left in US politics - because by the general theory Obama is right of center.

Heresy,Obama is a Marxist!!!

[AAFitz]

Far Left: AAfitz

way off as usual. I'm definitely moderate on the right side.

You however, are so right as to be disgusting, so what you see is me overreacting to your right insanity, which just comes off as being leftist, instead of reasonable, which is what I am.

You'll have to google that last word I used.

[john9blue]

^ this is why left/right is meaningless. nobody will ever label themselves as an extremist.

[AAFitz]

^ this is why left/right is meaningless. nobody will ever label themselves as an extremist.

Well, let me be more clear. I fully agree that what I have written makes it look like Im on the far left, just as you would certainly be right of the center obviously...but my point is that I mostly do it, because those on the far right are so insanely on the right, that I assume its either actual trolling, or outright evil, and suspect its a good combination of both of them....so, I counter that with a far more liberal argument than is true, and if you really read my posts, especially from the early years, its very obvious that my actual views are pretty balanced.

I cant fathom on the other hand that Nightstrike would suggest he is moderate though, and didnt fully believe every thing he has said.

And I cant fathom what Phatscotty would say either, except that it would seem to have a communist slant for some reason as of late.

I do agree many,(hopefully) do do the same thing, but certainly some you can absolutely tell they fully believe their extremism.

[john9blue]

jut because something is true doesn't mean it's not an extreme view (relative to the current prevailing view)

[AAFitz]

jut because something is true doesn't mean it's not an extreme view (relative to the current prevailing view)

And just because you believe it, doesn't mean its not extremely wrong. (relative to prevailing reality.)

[john9blue]

me personally? nothing i believe has ever been proven wrong