Conquer Club

We finally get what we asked for, and spent years of research on: an official Zelda Timeline. I am picking up a copy of the textbook this weekend. As someone who spent several internet debates on the problems with the basic split timeline theory (that's the theory that after Ocarina of Time, the timeline splits. One path goes to Majora's Mask and the other goes to Windwaker), I have a vested interest in this.

I have been warned that I will be disappointed. They fucking retconned it, the bastards. I will be back to bitch.

The timeline doesn't split after the Ocarina of Time. That's just crazy talk.

BigBallinStalin wrote:The timeline doesn't split after the Ocarina of Time. That's just crazy talk.

Msjora's mask takes place immediately after ocarina. For the events in Windwaker to be true, Majora's Mask can't have happened.

However, Twilight Princess references events in Majora's Mask, but not the Windwaker timeline.

So there must be some split, or else severe retconning.

Actually, I just peeked. They kept the timeline split and added a third one

Sounds like unsurprisingly sloppy work. How can you expect a general story to be consistent when it switches the hands of so many writers/companies?

What's the big deal here?

BigBallinStalin wrote:Sounds like unsurprisingly sloppy work. How can you expect a general story to be consistent when it switches the hands of so many writers/companies?

What's the big deal here?

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As far as video games go, that's not too much switching in production. Most names are repeated, and they're all done by Nintendo. The only other company to really produce a Zelda game (if you call it that) was when it was released for the Famicom system in Japan forever ago. What you talkin' 'bout BBS?

BMO

DoomYoshi wrote:We finally get what we asked for, and spent years of research on: an official Zelda Timeline. I am picking up a copy of the textbook this weekend. As someone who spent several internet debates on the problems with the basic split timeline theory (that's the theory that after Ocarina of Time, the timeline splits. One path goes to Majora's Mask and the other goes to Windwaker), I have a vested interest in this.

I have been warned that I will be disappointed. They fucking retconned it, the bastards. I will be back to bitch.

Amazon says 5 stars, after 140 ratings... I don't think that's too shabby.

Gilligan wrote:

DoomYoshi wrote:We finally get what we asked for, and spent years of research on: an official Zelda Timeline. I am picking up a copy of the textbook this weekend. As someone who spent several internet debates on the problems with the basic split timeline theory (that's the theory that after Ocarina of Time, the timeline splits. One path goes to Majora's Mask and the other goes to Windwaker), I have a vested interest in this.

I have been warned that I will be disappointed. They fucking retconned it, the bastards. I will be back to bitch.

Amazon says 5 stars, after 140 ratings... I don't think that's too shabby.

Let me put this into perspective for you:

The benchmark of the Zelda community is timeline theorizing - Zelda lovers flock from far and wide to the respective community fansites and stack their evidence, game knowledge, and experience against other Zelda fans, all towards attempting to make sense of the convoluted timeline that has become one of the most popular aspects of the franchise.

This is as if God came down from Heaven and says "Oh yea, I was wrong about the Hebrews, they aren't my chosen race at all, it's the...."

It's on that level of magnitude. This is Hyrule we are talking about! These earthly reviews mean nothing.

Yes, God made a mistake about those Jews and now has chosen Islam as his best flavor followed by 2nd choice Christianity as his red-headed step child.

I am hoping actually now that we have a codified timeline that when they rerelease the games (as we all know Nintendo loves to do) that they will update the timeline references in them.

rdsrds2120 wrote:

BigBallinStalin wrote:Sounds like unsurprisingly sloppy work. How can you expect a general story to be consistent when it switches the hands of so many writers/companies?

What's the big deal here?

For reference:

show

As far as video games go, that's not too much switching in production. Most names are repeated, and they're all done by Nintendo. The only other company to really produce a Zelda game (if you call it that) was when it was released for the Famicom system in Japan forever ago. What you talkin' 'bout BBS?

BMO

Wow. I expected it to be something other than "they're stupid/don't give a shit."

Actually, rds, you are a bit wrong too. Other companies have released fairy rupee tingle land oR whatever it was called, as well as the Phillips cdi games. We sidestepped that by just calling those games non-canon. And everything that NoA ever did or said - non-canon. (for example, they call him Gannon).

DoomYoshi wrote:

Gilligan wrote:

DoomYoshi wrote:We finally get what we asked for, and spent years of research on: an official Zelda Timeline. I am picking up a copy of the textbook this weekend. As someone who spent several internet debates on the problems with the basic split timeline theory (that's the theory that after Ocarina of Time, the timeline splits. One path goes to Majora's Mask and the other goes to Windwaker), I have a vested interest in this.

I have been warned that I will be disappointed. They fucking retconned it, the bastards. I will be back to bitch.

Amazon says 5 stars, after 140 ratings... I don't think that's too shabby.

Let me put this into perspective for you:

The benchmark of the Zelda community is timeline theorizing - Zelda lovers flock from far and wide to the respective community fansites and stack their evidence, game knowledge, and experience against other Zelda fans, all towards attempting to make sense of the convoluted timeline that has become one of the most popular aspects of the franchise.

This is as if God came down from Heaven and says "Oh yea, I was wrong about the Hebrews, they aren't my chosen race at all, it's the...."

It's on that level of magnitude. This is Hyrule we are talking about! These earthly reviews mean nothing.

Fair enough, but it's still something. I'll get it when there's a Kindle version.

DoomYoshi wrote:Actually, rds, you are a bit wrong too. Other companies have released fairy rupee tingle land oR whatever it was called, as well as the Phillips cdi games. We sidestepped that by just calling those games non-canon. And everything that NoA ever did or said - non-canon. (for example, they call him Gannon).

I'm aware of Tingle's Rosee Rupee land, and the Phillips CDi no one talks about. I was only mostly sticking with Mainstream games that affected the story, per the discussion at hand.

BMO

Ah yes. Anyways, they knocked that one out of the official timeline.

Just got mine delivered and apparently ordered it just in time.......currently ships within 1-2 months on Amazon.

Night Strike wrote:Just got mine delivered and apparently ordered it just in time.......currently ships within 1-2 months on Amazon.

Yea, its in stock in some stores, so I guess we are just lucky in Canada. As I speak, it is probably being gobbled up by unscrupulous investors. I should've got it last weekend like I planned.

Hey, the site Hyrule Hustlers is doing a Zelda Marathon for Child's Play charity. Not my favourite charity, but if you donate, you can win prizes. They are already obligated to play 55 hours of Zelda in a row, so consider giving some money to push that number higher.