Conquer Club

Posted: **Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:15 pm**

Posted: **Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:16 pm**

bedub1 wrote:Does anybody know anything about filing restraining orders? Since corporations are now people, can I file one against twitter, facebook and google? They are constantly stalking me, following me everywhere and harassing me. They won't leave me alone. Even when I'm someplace else, they are still stalking me. It's getting out of hand. I really want it to stop.

Thoughts?

If you can voluntarily leave those institutions, a restraining order is not necessary.

Posted: **Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:46 pm**

thegreekdog wrote:
bedub1 wrote:Does anybody know anything about filing restraining orders? Since corporations are now people, can I file one against twitter, facebook and google? They are constantly stalking me, following me everywhere and harassing me. They won't leave me alone. Even when I'm someplace else, they are still stalking me. It's getting out of hand. I really want it to stop.

Thoughts?

If you can voluntarily leave those institutions, a restraining order is not necessary.

But you can't. That's just it. Even if you're not a member they still track you and keep records about what you do, read, and watch.

Posted: **Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:49 pm**

So does the government. They keep a tack of you since the day you are born. Want to file a restraining order against the Feds?

Posted: **Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:24 pm**

MeDeFe wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
bedub1 wrote:Does anybody know anything about filing restraining orders? Since corporations are now people, can I file one against twitter, facebook and google? They are constantly stalking me, following me everywhere and harassing me. They won't leave me alone. Even when I'm someplace else, they are still stalking me. It's getting out of hand. I really want it to stop.

Thoughts?

If you can voluntarily leave those institutions, a restraining order is not necessary.

But you can't. That's just it. Even if you're not a member they still track you and keep records about what you do, read, and watch.

Wait, what?

Posted: **Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:14 pm**

Posted: **Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:18 pm**

bedub1 wrote:Does anybody know anything about filing restraining orders? Since corporations are now people, can I file one against twitter, facebook and google? They are constantly stalking me, following me everywhere and harassing me. They won't leave me alone. Even when I'm someplace else, they are still stalking me. It's getting out of hand. I really want it to stop.

Thoughts?

I am quite sure you can find an attorney willing to take your money to fight the case. Winning.. that is another matter entirely.

Posted: **Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:46 pm**

Posted: **Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:49 pm**

bedub1 wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:
bedub1 wrote:Does anybody know anything about filing restraining orders? Since corporations are now people, can I file one against twitter, facebook and google? They are constantly stalking me, following me everywhere and harassing me. They won't leave me alone. Even when I'm someplace else, they are still stalking me. It's getting out of hand. I really want it to stop.

Thoughts?

I am quite sure you can find an attorney willing to take your money to fight the case. Winning.. that is another matter entirely.

Let's do it class action, and use it to try to change the way these corporations operate and their ability to stalk us constantly.

But I like them stalking me...they are the only ones that do. No one except Facebook ever asks me about what's on my mind!

Posted: **Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:08 pm**

Posted: **Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:15 pm**

Can we add AT&T and Bell to the list? their fucking 3g and other mobile network constantly bombards me and my devices without recourse.

Bell actually hijacks your map applications and charges you to access them.

Bell and Eastlink joined forces recently to encourage us to protect our privacy, ie ensure that we all use only our own networks although my computer receives wifi from 20 + networks as well as their mobile service.

Posted: **Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:06 am**

bedub1 wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:
bedub1 wrote:Does anybody know anything about filing restraining orders? Since corporations are now people, can I file one against twitter, facebook and google? They are constantly stalking me, following me everywhere and harassing me. They won't leave me alone. Even when I'm someplace else, they are still stalking me. It's getting out of hand. I really want it to stop.

Thoughts?

I am quite sure you can find an attorney willing to take your money to fight the case. Winning.. that is another matter entirely.

Let's do it class action, and use it to try to change the way these corporations operate and their ability to stalk us constantly.

That horse has long left the gate, I am afraid. Preventing them from stalking us will inhibit their right to free access and the ability to run their free market enterprises.

Remeber.. freedom today is only about other people's ability to make money, not our personal ability to live as we like.

Posted: **Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:27 pm**

bedub1 wrote:Take it a step further to Google Glass:

http://creativegood.com/blog/the-google ... ing-about/

I don't ever want to be recorded by this device. If somebody wears one in front of me I will remove it from their person and destroy it. My right's to remain safe, secure, and not harassed/stalked trump their rights to wear that product.

So...

your security > free speech rights
your security > other people's property rights
your security > other people's security (since you're going to using force against their persons in the act of removing their glass).

What do you resemble?

Posted: **Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:36 pm**

PLAYER57832 wrote:Remeber.. freedom today is only about other people's ability to make money, not our personal ability to live as we like.

Since when do you want to let others choose how they want to live?

Posted: **Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:43 pm**

bedub1 wrote:Does anybody know anything about filing restraining orders? Since corporations are now people, can I file one against twitter, facebook and google? They are constantly stalking me, following me everywhere and harassing me. They won't leave me alone. Even when I'm someplace else, they are still stalking me. It's getting out of hand. I really want it to stop.

Thoughts?

First...get a lawyer.
Second...go to courthouse.
Third...set court date with judge to determine legitimacy.

If judge determines in favor of your case, then Google (an such entities) must stay at least 100 yards away from your person. But what that would contend, I don't know. Since Google and facebook are virtual entities (and not physical) may pose a problem. One could file the lawsuit against every employee of such companies to not physically come within that distance and disturb you on the internet. More than likely the judge would rule in favor of such entities as you would have to prove to the court how it is that they are harassing you?

I went to court for a restraining order...twice! Once I filed a complaint at the courthouse against an individual that threatened to kill me at work. I won that case. However, his cunt little wife filed one against me and lied and said I was following her home after work (we lived in the same neighborhood!) I got a lawyer and caught her lying on the stand. The judge noted the lie and threw the case out. However, if I ever see her around; I just treat it as if there was a restraining order. I don't want anything to do with that bitch!

Posted: **Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:07 am**

Posted: **Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:30 am**

BigBallinStalin wrote:
bedub1 wrote:Take it a step further to Google Glass:

http://creativegood.com/blog/the-google ... ing-about/

I don't ever want to be recorded by this device. If somebody wears one in front of me I will remove it from their person and destroy it. My right's to remain safe, secure, and not harassed/stalked trump their rights to wear that product.

So...

your security > free speech rights
your security > other people's property rights
your security > other people's security (since you're going to using force against their persons in the act of removing their glass).

What do you resemble?

--Andy

Posted: **Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:42 am**

bedub1 wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
bedub1 wrote:Take it a step further to Google Glass:

http://creativegood.com/blog/the-google ... ing-about/

I don't ever want to be recorded by this device. If somebody wears one in front of me I will remove it from their person and destroy it. My right's to remain safe, secure, and not harassed/stalked trump their rights to wear that product.

So...

your security > free speech rights
your security > other people's property rights
your security > other people's security (since you're going to using force against their persons in the act of removing their glass).

What do you resemble?

In my example nobody was talking.

If you assault somebody with your property, and your property is damaged, too bad. Your property rights don't supersede my rights to avoid being assaulted. IE You can't smack me with your baseball bat and then sue me when your bat breaks.

I am only defending myself against assault.

Your being recorded in a public, open space is not assault.

I'll answer my own question about your position: you sound like a fascist.

Posted: **Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:33 am**

BigBallinStalin wrote:
bedub1 wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
bedub1 wrote:Take it a step further to Google Glass:

http://creativegood.com/blog/the-google ... ing-about/

I don't ever want to be recorded by this device. If somebody wears one in front of me I will remove it from their person and destroy it. My right's to remain safe, secure, and not harassed/stalked trump their rights to wear that product.

So...

your security > free speech rights
your security > other people's property rights
your security > other people's security (since you're going to using force against their persons in the act of removing their glass).

What do you resemble?

In my example nobody was talking.

If you assault somebody with your property, and your property is damaged, too bad. Your property rights don't supersede my rights to avoid being assaulted. IE You can't smack me with your baseball bat and then sue me when your bat breaks.

I am only defending myself against assault.

Your being recorded in a public, open space is not assault.

I'll answer my own question about your position: you sound like a fascist.

yes, because, of course, only someone with something to hide would worry about being watched, right BBS?

(which is pretty much an exact phrasing of historical justification for oppression)

Posted: **Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:32 am**

Posted: **Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:46 am**

bedub1 wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
bedub1 wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
bedub1 wrote:Take it a step further to Google Glass:

http://creativegood.com/blog/the-google ... ing-about/

I don't ever want to be recorded by this device. If somebody wears one in front of me I will remove it from their person and destroy it. My right's to remain safe, secure, and not harassed/stalked trump their rights to wear that product.

So...

your security > free speech rights
your security > other people's property rights
your security > other people's security (since you're going to using force against their persons in the act of removing their glass).

What do you resemble?

In my example nobody was talking.

If you assault somebody with your property, and your property is damaged, too bad. Your property rights don't supersede my rights to avoid being assaulted. IE You can't smack me with your baseball bat and then sue me when your bat breaks.

I am only defending myself against assault.

Your being recorded in a public, open space is not assault.

I'll answer my own question about your position: you sound like a fascist.

yes, because, of course, only someone with something to hide would worry about being watched, right BBS?

(which is pretty much an exact phrasing of historical justification for oppression)

BBS, can you try attacking my words and beliefs instead of calling me names?

I explained what you resemble and clearly defended it--that's called "attacking your words." You sounded like a fascist.

Being recorded in public is still not assault.

It's a problem of common property--nobody owns the rights to it, except the government which does a piss-poor job of enforcing rights and what not. You're talking about implied consent, but you have very little to no jurisdiction in public space.

Posted: **Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:46 am**

PLAYER57832 wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
bedub1 wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
bedub1 wrote:Take it a step further to Google Glass:

http://creativegood.com/blog/the-google ... ing-about/

I don't ever want to be recorded by this device. If somebody wears one in front of me I will remove it from their person and destroy it. My right's to remain safe, secure, and not harassed/stalked trump their rights to wear that product.

So...

your security > free speech rights
your security > other people's property rights
your security > other people's security (since you're going to using force against their persons in the act of removing their glass).

What do you resemble?

In my example nobody was talking.

If you assault somebody with your property, and your property is damaged, too bad. Your property rights don't supersede my rights to avoid being assaulted. IE You can't smack me with your baseball bat and then sue me when your bat breaks.

I am only defending myself against assault.

Your being recorded in a public, open space is not assault.

I'll answer my own question about your position: you sound like a fascist.

yes, because, of course, only someone with something to hide would worry about being watched, right BBS?

(which is pretty much an exact phrasing of historical justification for oppression)

Context matters, Player.

Posted: **Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:18 pm**

bedub1 wrote:People that wear Google Glasses should automatically be called SNITCHES, and should be publicly shunned like you would shun any snitch. They should be ridiculed and humiliated until they are forced to change their actions.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Google-Glass-isnt-the-privacy-killer-the-media-wants-it-to-be_id40507

Posted: **Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:06 pm**

bedub1 wrote:People that wear Google Glasses should automatically be called SNITCHES, and should be publicly shunned like you would shun any snitch. They should be ridiculed and humiliated until they are forced to change their actions.

If you carry a smart phone or a camera, you are also a snitch. By your logic, them damn tourists are all spies for the foreign governments!

Posted: **Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:31 am**

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