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Explosions at the Boston Marathon

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:27 pm
by muy_thaiguy

Re: Explosions at the Boston Marathon

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:33 pm
by gordon1975
3 dead so far.fukin hell

Re: Explosions at the Boston Marathon

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:28 pm
by MegaProphet
It's unbelievable, my thoughts go out to everyone affected

Re: Explosions at the Boston Marathon

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:31 pm
by DoomYoshi
Waht.

So I guess this means that on Obama's anti-gun legislation, he needs to add cell phones to the list.

Re: Explosions at the Boston Marathon

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:43 pm
by muy_thaiguy
Reports coming out that there are several more bombs (non-activated) that have been found throughout Boston.

Re: Explosions at the Boston Marathon

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:14 pm
by nagerous
At least two dead and many injured say the latest reports. How terrible, to attack all those runners who have put their heart and soul into running and helping to raise money for charities.

Re: Explosions at the Boston Marathon

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:17 pm
by Symmetry
The Guardian has rolling updates-

Boston Marathon bombs

Not sure how useful it can be, and I won't post the video.

Re: Explosions at the Boston Marathon

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:28 pm
by BigBallinStalin
People love a good show. Aggregate all the US homicides not from bombs today and it'll be higher than the casualties of this one incident, but does it sell as well? No. Do people post threads about that? No. The event doesn't bundle well. There's something about this variance which explains why bombing civilians can be so effective.

I expect the US will react in a stupid, blundering manner--fueled on by its millions of uninformed, belligerent voters. Interesting times lay ahead.

Re: Explosions at the Boston Marathon

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:29 pm
by saxitoxin
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Re: Explosions at the Boston Marathon

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:55 pm
by sm8900
very sad news.

Re: Explosions at the Boston Marathon

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:44 pm
by Frigidus
BigBallinStalin wrote:People love a good show. Aggregate all the US homicides not from bombs today and it'll be higher than the casualties of this one incident, but does it sell as well? No. Do people post threads about that? No. The event doesn't bundle well. There's something about this variance which explains why bombing civilians can be so effective.

I expect the US will react in a stupid, blundering manner--fueled on by its millions of uninformed, belligerent voters. Interesting times lay ahead.


That about sums up my reaction to it. The only tragedies that get national attention are ones that have the potential to make political hay. I just hope the government doesn't find a way to use this as an excuse to infringe even further on our rights.

Re: Explosions at the Boston Marathon

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:46 pm
by Phatscotty
I expect no details will be released, the investigation will be sealed for a few months, allowing rumors and conspiracy to run amok. The circumstances are too interesting to pass up.

Never let a crisis go to waste

Re: Explosions at the Boston Marathon

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:52 pm
by Symmetry
BigBallinStalin wrote:Aggregate all the US homicides not from bombs today and it'll be higher than the casualties of this one incident, but does it sell as well? No. Do people post threads about that? No.


Of course they do. Gun crime and homicide rates are widely debated, as are individual crimes. Of course, you are always welcome to practice what you preach...

Re: Explosions at the Boston Marathon

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:57 pm
by Gilligan
I almost went to the marathon. Glad I didn't.

Re: Explosions at the Boston Marathon

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:03 pm
by thegreekdog
Frigidus wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:People love a good show. Aggregate all the US homicides not from bombs today and it'll be higher than the casualties of this one incident, but does it sell as well? No. Do people post threads about that? No. The event doesn't bundle well. There's something about this variance which explains why bombing civilians can be so effective.

I expect the US will react in a stupid, blundering manner--fueled on by its millions of uninformed, belligerent voters. Interesting times lay ahead.


That about sums up my reaction to it. The only tragedies that get national attention are ones that have the potential to make political hay. I just hope the government doesn't find a way to use this as an excuse to infringe even further on our rights.


Or invade another country.

Re: Explosions at the Boston Marathon

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:15 pm
by BigBallinStalin
Frigidus wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:People love a good show. Aggregate all the US homicides not from bombs today and it'll be higher than the casualties of this one incident, but does it sell as well? No. Do people post threads about that? No. The event doesn't bundle well. There's something about this variance which explains why bombing civilians can be so effective.

I expect the US will react in a stupid, blundering manner--fueled on by its millions of uninformed, belligerent voters. Interesting times lay ahead.


That about sums up my reaction to it. The only tragedies that get national attention are ones that have the potential to make political hay. I just hope the government doesn't find a way to use this as an excuse to infringe even further on our rights.


Same here. I feel bad for the generations which will be burdened by the additional consequences of public policy--as a reaction to this event.

If the US experienced one attack like this per year, the country would speed itself toward bankruptcy/wrecking its economy. As amazingly vulnerable this country is, I am simply stunned at how little resources it would take to ruin things for nearly all Americans--yet the 'profit opportunity' is hardly ever taken on such a scale. Why?

Many tend to forget that the market for terrorism in the US is practically nonexistent--in relation to other markets for more costly/harmful criminal activities.

Re: Explosions at the Boston Marathon

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:53 pm
by Symmetry
BigBallinStalin wrote:Many tend to forget that the market for terrorism in the US is practically nonexistent--in relation to other markets for more costly/harmful criminal activities.


What do you mean?

Re: Explosions at the Boston Marathon

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:58 pm
by nietzsche
BigBallinStalin wrote:People love a good show. Aggregate all the US homicides not from bombs today and it'll be higher than the casualties of this one incident, but does it sell as well? No. Do people post threads about that? No. The event doesn't bundle well. There's something about this variance which explains why bombing civilians can be so effective.

I expect the US will react in a stupid, blundering manner--fueled on by its millions of uninformed, belligerent voters. Interesting times lay ahead.


That's been true for many of the terrorist attacks, and yet there was a time when you couldn't even hint at it. There will be still those who say you're an ass for saying this BBS.

I hope people is beginning to realize different reactions are needed. Will the helpless Americans be able to stop their war hungry politicians this time?

If you guys cannot stop it this time, stop being arrogant moral-highpoint standers and shut the f*ck up. Yes, I'm angry because I don't know what country will you guys attack this time, which kids you'll leave orphan this time.

Re: Explosions at the Boston Marathon

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:10 pm
by NoSurvivors
nietzsche wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:People love a good show. Aggregate all the US homicides not from bombs today and it'll be higher than the casualties of this one incident, but does it sell as well? No. Do people post threads about that? No. The event doesn't bundle well. There's something about this variance which explains why bombing civilians can be so effective.

I expect the US will react in a stupid, blundering manner--fueled on by its millions of uninformed, belligerent voters. Interesting times lay ahead.


That's been true for many of the terrorist attacks, and yet there was a time when you couldn't even hinted at it. There will be still those who say you're an ass for saying this BBS.

I hope people is beginning to realize different reactions are needed. WIll the helpless Americans be able to stop their war hungry politicians this time?

If you guys cannot stop it this time, stop being arrogant moral-highpoint standers and shut the f*ck up. Yes, I'm angry because I don't know what country will you guys attack this time, whose kids you'll leave orphan this time.


Of course the media will make it a show. Anything that can get a story and a little cash or us an excuse to have self-pity will be exported and over exaggerated until the whole fucking world knows "the poor USA is getting bombed". Yes it isn't a good thing necessarily but I just hope it isn't blown out if proportion like everything if in the media.

Re: Explosions at the Boston Marathon

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:16 pm
by muy_thaiguy
NoSurvivors wrote:
nietzsche wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:People love a good show. Aggregate all the US homicides not from bombs today and it'll be higher than the casualties of this one incident, but does it sell as well? No. Do people post threads about that? No. The event doesn't bundle well. There's something about this variance which explains why bombing civilians can be so effective.

I expect the US will react in a stupid, blundering manner--fueled on by its millions of uninformed, belligerent voters. Interesting times lay ahead.


That's been true for many of the terrorist attacks, and yet there was a time when you couldn't even hinted at it. There will be still those who say you're an ass for saying this BBS.

I hope people is beginning to realize different reactions are needed. WIll the helpless Americans be able to stop their war hungry politicians this time?

If you guys cannot stop it this time, stop being arrogant moral-highpoint standers and shut the f*ck up. Yes, I'm angry because I don't know what country will you guys attack this time, whose kids you'll leave orphan this time.


Of course the media will make it a show. Anything that can get a story and a little cash or us an excuse to have self-pity will be exported and over exaggerated until the whole fucking world knows "the poor USA is getting bombed". Yes it isn't a good thing necessarily but I just hope it isn't blown out if proportion like everything if in the media.

OT I know, but this pic would look SO much better as your avatar.

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Re: Explosions at the Boston Marathon

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:21 pm
by Symmetry
NoSurvivors wrote:
nietzsche wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:People love a good show. Aggregate all the US homicides not from bombs today and it'll be higher than the casualties of this one incident, but does it sell as well? No. Do people post threads about that? No. The event doesn't bundle well. There's something about this variance which explains why bombing civilians can be so effective.

I expect the US will react in a stupid, blundering manner--fueled on by its millions of uninformed, belligerent voters. Interesting times lay ahead.


That's been true for many of the terrorist attacks, and yet there was a time when you couldn't even hinted at it. There will be still those who say you're an ass for saying this BBS.

I hope people is beginning to realize different reactions are needed. WIll the helpless Americans be able to stop their war hungry politicians this time?

If you guys cannot stop it this time, stop being arrogant moral-highpoint standers and shut the f*ck up. Yes, I'm angry because I don't know what country will you guys attack this time, whose kids you'll leave orphan this time.


Of course the media will make it a show. Anything that can get a story and a little cash or us an excuse to have self-pity will be exported and over exaggerated until the whole fucking world knows "the poor USA is getting bombed". Yes it isn't a good thing necessarily but I just hope it isn't blown out if proportion like everything if in the media.


What do you feel would be a proportional level of coverage for bombs going off in a major US city during a widely covered international sporting event?

I'm genuinely curious as to how people here who complain about "teh medya" want their news represented. It seems they either want a daily book of all ills, or a website that simply reads "shit happens".

Re: Explosions at the Boston Marathon

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:23 pm
by BigBallinStalin
Symmetry wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:Many tend to forget that the market for terrorism in the US is practically nonexistent--in relation to other markets for more costly/harmful criminal activities.


What do you mean?


Sauce:
http://ebookbrowse.com/iannaccone-marke ... d245629444
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjOlzOW_QAU

There's supply and demand for terrorism. Think of the supply and demand of labor, except this labor is in the business of producing terrorism. Within the US, there's plenty of easy areas to be hit, but they're not being hit, and it's not like the targets here are as hardened as they are in Israel, Saudi Arabia, Washington D.C., etc. Why is that? (cuz the market isn't really here).

Then compare the crime of terrorism with other forms of crime. Why? Because making comparisons can control for our downplaying or overestimating social phenomena. These other "markets of crime" (black markets, drug distribution, gang warfare and extortion--you know, the quintessential State) dwarf the market for terrorism. In other words, you've got more money and blood flowing in those markets than in the one for terrorism---within the US.

Re: Explosions at the Boston Marathon

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:33 pm
by Symmetry
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:Many tend to forget that the market for terrorism in the US is practically nonexistent--in relation to other markets for more costly/harmful criminal activities.


What do you mean?


Sauce:
http://ebookbrowse.com/iannaccone-marke ... d245629444
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjOlzOW_QAU

There's supply and demand for terrorism. Think of the supply and demand of labor, except this labor is in the business of producing terrorism. Within the US, there's plenty of easy areas to be hit, but they're not being hit, and it's not like the targets here are as hardened as they are in Israel, Saudi Arabia, Washington D.C., etc. Why is that? (cuz the market isn't really here).

Then compare the crime of terrorism with other forms of crime. Why? Because making comparisons can control for our downplaying or overestimating social phenomena. These other "markets of crime" (black markets, drug distribution, gang warfare and extortion--you know, the quintessential State) dwarf the market for terrorism. In other words, you've got more money and blood flowing in those markets than in the one for terrorism---within the US.


So it's a niche market?

Re: Explosions at the Boston Marathon

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:29 pm
by Juan_Bottom
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This is the suspect, with burns on his back. Alleged Saudi, but we don't know that.
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Re: Explosions at the Boston Marathon

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:31 pm
by Juan_Bottom
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comedian Patton Oswalt wrote:Boston. Fucking horrible.

I remember, when 9/11 went down, my reaction was, “Well, I’ve had it with humanity.”


But I was wrong. I don’t know what’s going to be revealed to be behind all of this mayhem. One human insect or a poisonous mass of broken sociopaths.

But here’s what I DO know. If it’s one person or a HUNDRED people, that number is not even a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent of the population on this planet. You watch the videos of the carnage and there are people running TOWARDS the destruction to help out. (Thanks FAKE Gallery founder and owner Paul Kozlowski for pointing this out to me). This is a giant planet and we’re lucky to live on it but there are prices and penalties incurred for the daily miracle of existence. One of them is, every once in awhile, the wiring of a tiny sliver of the species gets snarled and they’re pointed towards darkness.

But the vast majority stands against that darkness and, like white blood cells attacking a virus, they dilute and weaken and eventually wash away the evil doers and, more importantly, the damage they wreak. This is beyond religion or creed or nation. We would not be here if humanity were inherently evil. We’d have eaten ourselves alive long ago.

So when you spot violence, or bigotry, or intolerance or fear or just garden-variety misogyny, hatred or ignorance, just look it in the eye and think, “The good outnumber you, and we always will.”


I suspect that he is also a Mr. Rogers fan.
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