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For god worshipers: is it okay to call atheists killers?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:18 am
by pimpdave
So I see my thread, which was completely equal to any other thread asking atheists things was locked.

So, god worshipers, why is it okay for you to say that the only reason people aren't killing each other wantonly in the street is because your particular Invisible Sky Wizard is being worshiped, but it's wrong for us atheists to ask you about similar things related to your version of the world?

Also, can someone clarify the concept of a sin of omission? How is it not a sin to allow child rape to go on constantly and do nothing but try to cover it up? Is that what your holy incarnation on the planet (notice I'm not naming any named faiths so I'm not "bashing religion", just being vague the way god worshipers are when they refer to atheists and call us all murderers and sadistic homosexuals who abort babies for sport).

Great, thanks!

Re: For god worshipers: is it okay to call atheists killers?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:24 am
by waauw
and here we go again..

Re: For god worshipers: is it okay to call atheists killers?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:05 am
by thegreekdog
I thought atheism wasn't a religion. If it's not a religion then it can't be bigoted to call atheists names, right? So confused.

Also, I look forward to your threads calling out the U.S. public education system and their protection of teachers raping children and engaging in pedastry. Hopefully those are coming soon!

Also, no poll PD. Please provide a poll.

Re: For god worshipers: is it okay to call atheists killers?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:36 am
by Serbia
pimpdave wrote:How is it not a sin to allow child rape to go on constantly and do nothing but try to cover it up?


You have just described Joe Paterno. His legacy has been destroyed because of the scandal at Penn State, essentially because everyone agreed his inaction and cover-up attempts were a "sin". So... society has already agreed with you.

Bollocks.

Re: For god worshipers: is it okay to call atheists killers?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:33 am
by BigBallinStalin
I refuse to address the thought-provoking OP unless a Poll is provided.

POLL FOR THE PEOPLE!
POLL FOR THE PEOPLE!!

Re: For god worshipers: is it okay to call atheists killers?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:41 am
by thegreekdog
BigBallinStalin wrote:I refuse to address the thought-provoking OP


See above. Atheism is not a religion, therefore no bigotry.

EDIT - To head off the typical response, I don't make the rules of life. Someone decreed that offenses against religious people is bigotry. Someone decreed that atheism is not a religion. Those people weren't me.

Re: For god worshipers: is it okay to call atheists killers?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:06 pm
by Baron Von PWN
thegreekdog wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:I refuse to address the thought-provoking OP


See above. Atheism is not a religion, therefore no bigotry.

EDIT - To head off the typical response, I don't make the rules of life. Someone decreed that offenses against religious people is bigotry. Someone decreed that atheism is not a religion. Those people weren't me.


Who says you can only be bigoted against religious people?

You could be bigoted against people who never wear socks. It doesn't have to be linked to religion to be bigotry.

Re: For god worshipers: is it okay to call atheists killers?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:58 pm
by thegreekdog
Baron Von PWN wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:I refuse to address the thought-provoking OP


See above. Atheism is not a religion, therefore no bigotry.

EDIT - To head off the typical response, I don't make the rules of life. Someone decreed that offenses against religious people is bigotry. Someone decreed that atheism is not a religion. Those people weren't me.


Who says you can only be bigoted against religious people?

You could be bigoted against people who never wear socks. It doesn't have to be linked to religion to be bigotry.


I guess I've never heard of someone being accused of bigotry with respect to anything other than race or religion. And I don't mean just in the forum.

Re: For god worshipers: is it okay to call atheists killers?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:26 pm
by AndyDufresne
thegreekdog wrote:
Baron Von PWN wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:I refuse to address the thought-provoking OP


See above. Atheism is not a religion, therefore no bigotry.

EDIT - To head off the typical response, I don't make the rules of life. Someone decreed that offenses against religious people is bigotry. Someone decreed that atheism is not a religion. Those people weren't me.


Who says you can only be bigoted against religious people?

You could be bigoted against people who never wear socks. It doesn't have to be linked to religion to be bigotry.


I guess I've never heard of someone being accused of bigotry with respect to anything other than race or religion. And I don't mean just in the forum.


I think people here in the Off Topics have had discussions about bigotry with respect to sexual orientation and gender. There must also be some bigotry with respect to national origins as well, in regards to the immigration and other discussions this forum has had. I feel like I posted nonsensical items in these discussions some time ago.

And for fun. OED -- Bigotry
The quality or condition of a bigot; obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, practice, faction, etc.; intolerance, prejudice.


OED -- Bigot
a. A person considered to adhere unreasonably or obstinately to a particular religious belief, practice, etc. b. In extended use: a fanatical adherent or believer; a person characterized by obstinate, intolerant, or strongly partisan beliefs.


So I suppose you could be bigoted towards people who don't wear socks. And in all seriousness, I really don't wear socks ever in my life. So bring it on.


--Andy

Re: For god worshipers: is it okay to call atheists killers?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:56 pm
by Woodruff
thegreekdog wrote:I thought atheism wasn't a religion. If it's not a religion then it can't be bigoted to call atheists names, right? So confused.


I don't think that's how it works, no. I'm pretty sure you can be bigoted against any group, regardless of whether they are a religious group.

Re: For god worshipers: is it okay to call atheists killers?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:58 pm
by Woodruff
thegreekdog wrote:
Baron Von PWN wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:I refuse to address the thought-provoking OP


See above. Atheism is not a religion, therefore no bigotry.

EDIT - To head off the typical response, I don't make the rules of life. Someone decreed that offenses against religious people is bigotry. Someone decreed that atheism is not a religion. Those people weren't me.


Who says you can only be bigoted against religious people?

You could be bigoted against people who never wear socks. It doesn't have to be linked to religion to be bigotry.


I guess I've never heard of someone being accused of bigotry with respect to anything other than race or religion. And I don't mean just in the forum.


I didn't realize that homosexuality was a race or religion.

Re: For god worshipers: is it okay to call atheists killers?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:09 pm
by Woodruff
pimpdave wrote:So I see my thread, which was completely equal to any other thread asking atheists things was locked.


And why WAS that thread locked? Tee Gee never really said why. I didn't really notice anything that warranted locking...what did I overlook?

Re: For god worshipers: is it okay to call atheists killers?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:17 pm
by pimpdave
Serbia wrote:
pimpdave wrote:How is it not a sin to allow child rape to go on constantly and do nothing but try to cover it up?


You have just described Joe Paterno. His legacy has been destroyed because of the scandal at Penn State, essentially because everyone agreed his inaction and cover-up attempts were a "sin". So... society has already agreed with you.

Bollocks.


That's a great point, Serbia. So you're saying that secular society, which is comprised of atheists, among others, rejects child rape and refuses to let it be covered up forever.

So why is it that god worshiper organizations, which have no atheists, cover up an occurrence rate of sexual abuse in over 50% of its clergy, then cry bigotry and attack those who point it out? Shouldn't god worshipers, if they truly worship god, be doing everything possible to pluck that "rotten fruit" from the tree of righteousness? At the very least, make it possible for the rule of law to apply to the child raping clerics?

So again, why is it okay for god worshipers to constantly attack atheists, but when atheists merely suggest some justice be done to the child raping clerics, it's considered going too far?

A QUESTION FOR THE AGES

Re: For god worshipers: is it okay to call atheists killers?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:53 pm
by stahrgazer
thegreekdog wrote:I thought atheism wasn't a religion. If it's not a religion then it can't be bigoted to call atheists names, right? So confused.


Wrong. "Black" isn't a religion either, but it can be bigoted if you start calling black folks names.

OP: Yes, it's okay to call atheists killers; but it's not too cool to lump all atheists into one "killers" category. You could call Christians "killers" as well, considering "the Crusades," but since every member of every Christian religion didn't participate in those Crusades, it'd not be too cool to do that lumping, either (just as it's not too cool to lump all Moslems in with the Al Quedas and Talibans of the world.)

Re: For god worshipers: is it okay to call atheists killers?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:18 pm
by john9blue
it's bigoted to hate blacks, but not bigoted to hate dat whitey white man

white is the absence of blackness.

atheism is the absence of religion.

it's bigoted to hate religion, but not bigoted to hate atheism.

QED by substitution

Re: For god worshipers: is it okay to call atheists killers?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:22 pm
by jonesthecurl
john9blue wrote:it's bigoted to hate blacks, but not bigoted to hate dat whitey white man



sez who?

Re: For god worshipers: is it okay to call atheists killers?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:26 pm
by john9blue
jonesthecurl wrote:
john9blue wrote:it's bigoted to hate blacks, but not bigoted to hate dat whitey white man



sez who?


sez the homeless people i pass on the street on my way to work

Re: For god worshipers: is it okay to call atheists killers?

PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:19 am
by thegreekdog
Oh my fucking...

Look assholes, in the technical dictionary definition of "bigot," you are all correct. In the way the term is used in everyday parlance and in the law, IT IS NOT FUCKING BIGOTED TO HATE PEOPLE THAT WEAR BLACK SOCKS!

Re: For god worshipers: is it okay to call atheists killers?

PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:44 am
by Timminz
thegreekdog wrote:Oh my fucking...

Look assholes, in the technical dictionary definition of "bigot," you are all correct. In the way the term is used in everyday parlance and in the law, IT IS NOT FUCKING BIGOTED TO HATE PEOPLE THAT WEAR BLACK SOCKS!


What about the gays? Women?

Re: For god worshipers: is it okay to call atheists killers?

PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:47 am
by jonesthecurl
Timminz wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:Oh my fucking...

Look assholes, in the technical dictionary definition of "bigot," you are all correct. In the way the term is used in everyday parlance and in the law, IT IS NOT FUCKING BIGOTED TO HATE PEOPLE THAT WEAR BLACK SOCKS!


What about the gays? Women?


Do gays wear black socks?

Re: For god worshipers: is it okay to call atheists killers?

PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:49 am
by thegreekdog
I hate you guys.

Re: For god worshipers: is it okay to call atheists killers?

PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:21 am
by AndyDufresne
thegreekdog wrote:I hate you guys.

TGD, we know wrapped up in your hate is a nice kernel of love.


--Andy

Re: For god worshipers: is it okay to call atheists killers?

PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:31 am
by thegreekdog
I'm going to try a different tactic Andy.

Has anyone ever heard of an atheist accusing someone of being a bigot relative to atheism?*

*Apart from in this forum.

Re: For god worshipers: is it okay to call atheists killers?

PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:52 am
by BigBallinStalin
thegreekdog wrote:Oh my fucking...

Look assholes, in the technical dictionary definition of "bigot," you are all correct. In the way the term is used in everyday parlance and in the law, IT IS NOT FUCKING BIGOTED TO HATE PEOPLE THAT WEAR BLACK SOCKS!


Looks like somebody is bigoted against people who think that it is bigoted to hate people that wear black socks.

Bigot! Bigot! Bigot! <waves arms around>