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Supercooled Water: A Liquid to Liquid Transition

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:21 am
by new guy1
http://newswire.uark.edu/articles/21495 ... ture-water


Through a simulation performed in “supercooled” water, a research team led by chemist Feng “Seymour” Wang, confirmed a “liquid-liquid” phase transition at 207 Kelvins, or 87 degrees below zero on the Fahrenheit scale.

“On a miscrosecond time scale, the water did not actually form ice but it transformed into a new form of liquid,"- Feng Wang


Dont know the science behind it, but seems pretty awesome to me. I would have never guessed a liquid could form another liquid, must less the fact you have to make it very cold.

Re: Supercooled Water: A Liquid to Liquid Transition

PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:42 am
by MeDeFe
Now, who wants to go for a swim in this newly discovered liquid?

Re: Supercooled Water: A Liquid to Liquid Transition

PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:53 pm
by BigBallinStalin
Thanks for reminding me, MeDeFe.

Does anyone understand the significance of the discovery of liquid 2.0? I read the article, but I don't get it.

Is this newly discovered phase the premo state in which to be cryogenically chilled? Or does it pose an previously unforeseen problem? If yes, how so?

Could the liquid2 phase be used to enhance my enjoyment of alcoholic beverages? If yes, awesome.

Re: Supercooled Water: A Liquid to Liquid Transition

PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:30 pm
by TA1LGUNN3R
Basically, I think what they did is get water to expand (which it does when it solidifies into ice), without it actually turning to ice. So they've got a less-dense liquid that must be maintained at 207K. As for cryogenics, it does seem like it would help since the crystallization of water is what causes major damage to organic tissue, although I'm uncertain how it could be maintained or if you could even apply this to the water present in these tissues. If the temperature dropped even a little bit, would the liquid-liquid crystallize, or is it not dense enough? I don't know from reading just that article.

-TG

Re: Supercooled Water: A Liquid to Liquid Transition

PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:13 pm
by BigBallinStalin
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Image

-TG



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(thanks, TG).

Re: Supercooled Water: A Liquid to Liquid Transition

PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:48 pm
by new guy1
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Basically, I think what they did is get water to expand (which it does when it solidifies into ice), without it actually turning to ice. So they've got a less-dense liquid that must be maintained at 207K. As for cryogenics, it does seem like it would help since the crystallization of water is what causes major damage to organic tissue, although I'm uncertain how it could be maintained or if you could even apply this to the water present in these tissues. If the temperature dropped even a little bit, would the liquid-liquid crystallize, or is it not dense enough? I don't know from reading just that article.

-TG



Actually TG, my friends and I joked about making more water for human consumption (the obvious withdraw to that being that the liquid would freeze your insides instantly), but I didnt even think about the cryogenics or whether the liquid would turn to ice.

New plan, time for me to get the resources necessary to test this myself! FOR SCIENCE!

Re: Supercooled Water: A Liquid to Liquid Transition

PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 7:02 am
by TA1LGUNN3R
new guy wrote:Actually TG, my friends and I joked about making more water for human consumption (the obvious withdraw to that being that the liquid would freeze your insides instantly)


Depends on the amount. If it's just a little bit it would probably just evaporate pretty much instantly and leave you with a refreshing tingle.

-TG

Re: Supercooled Water: A Liquid to Liquid Transition

PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:33 am
by notyou2
Seriously? Seymour Wang? Seriously?

Re: Supercooled Water: A Liquid to Liquid Transition

PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:19 am
by jonesthecurl
notyou2 wrote:Seriously? Seymour Wang? Seriously?


He changed his last name from "Butts" because it was embarrassing.