Conquer Club

patches70 wrote:

And while there are some pockets where racial bias presents itself in the white to black reality of our culture, the overwhelming abusers of race, the manipulators of skin color, and the purveyors of hate based on ignorance and ill will--are actually those who claim they are fighting against it.

Simply put, the Sharpton, Jackson, Holder, and Obama rhetoric--though stating it was dressed in compromise--actually was intended to incite further anger, resentment, and furtherance of the untruths told for months in the case.

And it is the absence of honor in the character of today's "civil rights 'leaders'" that betrays their true intention: to practice racism, and to profit from it for themselves indefinitely.

BigBallinStalin wrote:

And while there are some pockets where racial bias presents itself in the white to black reality of our culture, the overwhelming abusers of race, the manipulators of skin color, and the purveyors of hate based on ignorance and ill will--are actually those who claim they are fighting against it.

e.g. people like Al Sharpton

Simply put, the Sharpton, Jackson, Holder, and Obama rhetoric--though stating it was dressed in compromise--actually was intended to incite further anger, resentment, and furtherance of the untruths told for months in the case.

Oh, dang, there's our boy, Sharpton in the mix.

And it is the absence of honor in the character of today's "civil rights 'leaders'" that betrays their true intention: to practice racism, and to profit from it for themselves indefinitely.

Omgerd, Obama and those others would never do such thing! They'd seek mutual understanding, and even if they could gain significantly more by touting half-truths and misleading comments, they'd surely turn it down--for the sake of promoting the greater good, a good for all races. Right right right.



Good read. I was expecting more examples of abuse by those mentioned (Obama, Sharpton, etc.)

loutil wrote:http://townhall.com/columnists/kevinmccullough/2013/07/28/why-american-racism-is-impossible-to-defeat-n1650666/page/full

PLAYER57832 wrote:Its sort of like an old saying about why Monopoly was so popular... "its got enough strategy that people can feel good about winning and enough luck that they can "curse the dice" when they lose. ( I think that applies to other games more than Monopoly, but that is the quote)

Woodruff wrote:

PLAYER57832 wrote:Its sort of like an old saying about why Monopoly was so popular... "its got enough strategy that people can feel good about winning and enough luck that they can "curse the dice" when they lose. ( I think that applies to other games more than Monopoly, but that is the quote)

Damned if that doesn't sound exactly like 90% of the people on this site. <laughing>

loutil wrote:

patches70 wrote:

Maybe, but I feel the author has strong ground to stand on given his background and experience.

Gillipig wrote:

loutil wrote:

patches70 wrote:

Maybe, but I feel the author has strong ground to stand on given his background and experience.

What is this background and experience you are referring to?

To comment on the actual article, I don't think the writer manage to do what he sets out to do. "I merely observe what is evident, and state my observation publicly.". I do not think the conclusions he draws are evident, he tries to make race an entirely political problem, while a lot of it is due to our genetics. We are genetically programmed to think favourable of people who look like ourselves. There's no admittance of how our human nature works against coexisting peacefully, instead he tries to trace the problem entirely back to politics. When reading this article you get the feeling that he thinks politicians created racism, and if it wasn't for them there would be none. Here's another quote that I think illustrates how he over emphasise politicans role in the matter, "For it is impossible to cure a societal sickness, when parties don't wish for it to be cured!". It seems to me he is suggesting that racism is impossible to defeat because of how politics works right now. Now that doesn't make much sense. Firstly, if that was true, it wouldn't make it "impossible" to defeat, all you had to do is change the way politics operate and according to his logic, racism would be cured. Secondly, that's just not the way it works. It isn't the governments fault we're racist by nature, if you want to blame something, blame our genes. But it's not the genes he cites as the reason for why racism can't be cured, no, he's not thinking straight, so he goes back to blaming what he has probably been blaming his entire life, the government. It's all their fault, there can't be something ugly about us, it must be them! Those people over there who are controlling our lives, it's all their fault!!

PLAYER57832 wrote:

Gillipig wrote:

loutil wrote:

patches70 wrote:

Maybe, but I feel the author has strong ground to stand on given his background and experience.

What is this background and experience you are referring to?

To comment on the actual article, I don't think the writer manage to do what he sets out to do. "I merely observe what is evident, and state my observation publicly.". I do not think the conclusions he draws are evident, he tries to make race an entirely political problem, while a lot of it is due to our genetics. We are genetically programmed to think favourable of people who look like ourselves. There's no admittance of how our human nature works against coexisting peacefully, instead he tries to trace the problem entirely back to politics. When reading this article you get the feeling that he thinks politicians created racism, and if it wasn't for them there would be none. Here's another quote that I think illustrates how he over emphasise politicans role in the matter, "For it is impossible to cure a societal sickness, when parties don't wish for it to be cured!". It seems to me he is suggesting that racism is impossible to defeat because of how politics works right now. Now that doesn't make much sense. Firstly, if that was true, it wouldn't make it "impossible" to defeat, all you had to do is change the way politics operate and according to his logic, racism would be cured. Secondly, that's just not the way it works. It isn't the governments fault we're racist by nature, if you want to blame something, blame our genes. But it's not the genes he cites as the reason for why racism can't be cured, no, he's not thinking straight, so he goes back to blaming what he has probably been blaming his entire life, the government. It's all their fault, there can't be something ugly about us, it must be them! Those people over there who are controlling our lives, it's all their fault!!

You are actually wrong about this. It is not so much genetics as environment that dictates how we see others.

Kids who are raised among people of many races don't have the "problems" or distortions about color that those raised primarily in single race areas do. Also, the attributes that people orient to go well beyond physical features that make race. Race is just one part. Even the definition and ideas about race change over time.

Gillipig wrote:I'm fairly confident there are lots of people who grow up around people of different races around them and are very racist. I'd be willing to wager that the people who are the most hateful towards other races are not those who has never seen a person of a different race, but those who have them around them and just don't like what they see. Are you arguing that genetics doesn't play any role or that it plays a smaller role than the environment? And would you make the same argument for IQ?