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Should Jesus' sedition conviction be overturned?

 
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Should Jesus' conviction be overturned?

Postby saxitoxin on Mon Aug 05, 2013 12:56 am

A Kenyan man has filed suit against Italy and Israel, seeking to have Jesus' 33 conviction for sedition overturned.

“I filed the case because it’s my duty to uphold the dignity of Jesus and I have gone to the International Court of Justice to seek justice for the man from Nazareth,” Indidis told the Nairobian. “His selective and malicious prosecution violated his human rights through judicial misconduct, abuse of office bias and prejudice.”

As a matter of law, Indidis’ efforts will fail. Indidis tried to bring the case to the High Court of Kenya in 2007, but the court refused to hear it, citing a lack of jurisdiction.

http://swampland.time.com/2013/08/04/ke ... us-christ/
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Re: Should Jesus' conviction be overturned?

Postby saxitoxin on Mon Aug 05, 2013 12:57 am

If there's a wrongful death judgment of $14 million, amortized at 5% interest per year for 2,000 years, the total value of the judgment will be $1.3 billion, according to the amortization calculator - http://bretwhissel.net/cgi-bin/amortize.
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Re: Should Jesus' conviction be overturned?

Postby Frigidus on Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:15 am

Nah, I'd say he got off easy considering he came back from the dead. They should have crucified him again for good measure.
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Re: Should Jesus' conviction be overturned?

Postby chang50 on Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:51 am

Wasn't it all his Dad's (or his own) plan?Surely we shouldn't interfere with that,it might have implications for the redemption of mankind.Or something.
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Re: Should Jesus' conviction be overturned?

Postby notyou2 on Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:15 am

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Re: Should Jesus' conviction be overturned?

Postby Woodruff on Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:18 am

saxitoxin wrote:A Kenyan man has filed suit against Italy and Israel, seeking to have Jesus' 33 conviction for sedition overturned.

“I filed the case because it’s my duty to uphold the dignity of Jesus and I have gone to the International Court of Justice to seek justice for the man from Nazareth,” Indidis told the Nairobian. “His selective and malicious prosecution violated his human rights through judicial misconduct, abuse of office bias and prejudice.”

As a matter of law, Indidis’ efforts will fail. Indidis tried to bring the case to the High Court of Kenya in 2007, but the court refused to hear it, citing a lack of jurisdiction.

http://swampland.time.com/2013/08/04/ke ... us-christ/


I...uh...what's his point? What is the goal here?
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Postby 2dimes on Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:45 pm

Frigidus wrote:Nah, I'd say he got off easy considering he came back from the dead. They should have crucified him again for good measure.


I don't want to agree just yet but I suspect coming back to life is against one or more of the laws in Leviticus.
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Re: Should Jesus' conviction be overturned?

Postby Army of GOD on Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:51 pm

this should be class action
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Re: Should Jesus' conviction be overturned?

Postby Dukasaur on Mon Aug 05, 2013 2:56 pm

One of the few points on which most Biblical scholars agree is that Jesus went to his execution knowingly and willingly. Whether you're religious and you believe he died to redeem our sin, or whether you take a secular view and believe that he was the leader of a protest movement who wanted to be martyred as a rallying point for the people, you agree that he went into it with his eyes open.

Even setting aside the thorny question of divine intervention, Jesus had numerous earthly and mortal ways to avoid his fate -- recant and submit, flee the city before his arrest, have his numerous followers rescue him by force, have his followers collect money to bribe his way out, make a deal with the Romans against to Jews or with the Jews against the Romans, or simply put up a real defense at his trial instead of what was essentially a Nolo contendere plea. He chose none of these, because (for a reason you can debate from here to tomorrow) he wanted to be a martyr.

I don't see any reasonable grounds on which to challenge a guilty verdict when the defendant wanted to be condemned.
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Re: Should Jesus' conviction be overturned?

Postby thegreekdog on Mon Aug 05, 2013 2:57 pm

I've already contacted Jesus's criminal attorneys about a possible civil suit.
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Re: Should Jesus' conviction be overturned?

Postby Dukasaur on Mon Aug 05, 2013 2:59 pm

thegreekdog wrote:I've already contacted Jesus's criminal attorneys about a possible civil suit.

Meddling in God's Plan without a license? Tsk, tsk!
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Re: Should Jesus' conviction be overturned?

Postby 2dimes on Mon Aug 05, 2013 3:02 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
I don't see any reasonable grounds on which to challenge a guilty verdict when the defendant wanted to be condemned.

But he didn't.
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Re: Should Jesus' conviction be overturned?

Postby betiko on Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:26 pm

Dukasaur wrote:One of the few points on which most Biblical scholars agree is that Jesus went to his execution knowingly and willingly. Whether you're religious and you believe he died to redeem our sin, or whether you take a secular view and believe that he was the leader of a protest movement who wanted to be martyred as a rallying point for the people, you agree that he went into it with his eyes open.

Even setting aside the thorny question of divine intervention, Jesus had numerous earthly and mortal ways to avoid his fate -- recant and submit, flee the city before his arrest, have his numerous followers rescue him by force, have his followers collect money to bribe his way out, make a deal with the Romans against to Jews or with the Jews against the Romans, or simply put up a real defense at his trial instead of what was essentially a Nolo contendere plea. He chose none of these, because (for a reason you can debate from here to tomorrow) he wanted to be a martyr.

I don't see any reasonable grounds on which to challenge a guilty verdict when the defendant wanted to be condemned.


Dude i m sure he could ve thrown fireballs from his hands if he wanted to.
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Re: Should Jesus' conviction be overturned?

Postby Dukasaur on Mon Aug 05, 2013 5:52 pm

betiko wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:One of the few points on which most Biblical scholars agree is that Jesus went to his execution knowingly and willingly. Whether you're religious and you believe he died to redeem our sin, or whether you take a secular view and believe that he was the leader of a protest movement who wanted to be martyred as a rallying point for the people, you agree that he went into it with his eyes open.

Even setting aside the thorny question of divine intervention, Jesus had numerous earthly and mortal ways to avoid his fate -- recant and submit, flee the city before his arrest, have his numerous followers rescue him by force, have his followers collect money to bribe his way out, make a deal with the Romans against to Jews or with the Jews against the Romans, or simply put up a real defense at his trial instead of what was essentially a Nolo contendere plea. He chose none of these, because (for a reason you can debate from here to tomorrow) he wanted to be a martyr.

I don't see any reasonable grounds on which to challenge a guilty verdict when the defendant wanted to be condemned.


Dude i m sure he could ve thrown fireballs from his hands if he wanted to.

What part of "setting aside the thorny question of divine intervention" defied comprehension?
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Re: Should Jesus' conviction be overturned?

Postby thegreekdog on Mon Aug 05, 2013 5:58 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:I've already contacted Jesus's criminal attorneys about a possible civil suit.

Meddling in God's Plan without a license? Tsk, tsk!


I'M LICENSED TO PRACTICE LAW IN HEAVEN AND HELL BITCHES!!!
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Re: Should Jesus' conviction be overturned?

Postby Woodruff on Mon Aug 05, 2013 6:02 pm

Dukasaur wrote:I don't see any reasonable grounds on which to challenge a guilty verdict when the defendant wanted to be condemned.


Desire to be found guilty should be irrelevant. Individuals have been known to try to gain a guilty verdict against themselves in order to keep it off of the actually guilty member (usually a family member or loved one, but possibly someone paid off).
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Re: Should Jesus' conviction be overturned?

Postby john9blue on Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:51 pm

thegreekdog wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:I've already contacted Jesus's criminal attorneys about a possible civil suit.

Meddling in God's Plan without a license? Tsk, tsk!


I'M LICENSED TO PRACTICE LAW IN HEAVEN AND HELL BITCHES!!!


yeah but being a tax lawyer in heaven is super easy

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there, just saved you 3 years of divine law school.
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Re: Should Jesus' conviction be overturned?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:19 am

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Re: Should Jesus' conviction be overturned?

Postby jonesthecurl on Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:53 pm

saxitoxin wrote:A Kenyan man has filed suit against Italy and Israel, seeking to have Jesus' 33 conviction for sedition overturned.

“I filed the case because it’s my duty to uphold the dignity of Jesus and I have gone to the International Court of Justice to seek justice for the man from Nazareth,” Indidis told the Nairobian. “His selective and malicious prosecution violated his human rights through judicial misconduct, abuse of office bias and prejudice.”

As a matter of law, Indidis’ efforts will fail. Indidis tried to bring the case to the High Court of Kenya in 2007, but the court refused to hear it, citing a lack of jurisdiction.

http://swampland.time.com/2013/08/04/ke ... us-christ/


Oh no, indidi.
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