Conquer Club

But there's only one.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/20 ... -name.html

I'm not the Messiah, now piss off.

This lady obviously doesn't understand her job and its limits. Nothing more than Hitler dressed as a woman, Obviously the name Jesus is ok. See how she tried to 180 this and say its not relevant to the case. It is as Jesus is known as God. She is a dictator.

That was some pretty strange logic twisting by the judge IMO. Not sure how she thinks she can change the baby's name like that. I think she just might be over ruled on appeal. I didn't know people couldn't name their children with titles, isn't King a title? Isn't Messiah another word for "King"? And where was this judge in Kanye West's kid's name? He and Kim named their kid North for the giggle fest name- North West. Bwahahahahahah!

Who wants to bet who gets made fun of more? A kid named Messiah or a kid named North West? Scratch that, North West will be raised isolated in the lap of luxury with sycophantic companions and deluded parents. It's also a compass point. Any guesses on which airline the kid will favor traveling?
Hey! Can anyone give the directions to find North West? <blank stares> "It's thatta way" <points northwest>. Bwahahaha

The parents of the kid in the OP wanna call their kid Messiah, the judge should just get over it and not impose her own personal beliefs into her rulings. It's kind of a cool name, I could think of much worse names.

I agree. As a Christian myself, that judge was totally out of line. There have been millions of messiahs throughout history.

That Top 10 list of fastest-growing boys' names trips me out, though. Here's the full list:

Major, Gael, Jase, Messiah, Brantley, Iker, King, Rory, Ari, Maverick.

http://www.wbir.com/news/article/284063 ... baby-names

King? Maverick? Interesting choices. =)

I once knew a guy whose first name was Sir because his mom wanted him to be respected by people who addressed him.

I, on the other hand, named my son Wolverine Aragorn Prime. =)

He's not the Messiah! He's a very naughty boy!

I knew a dude named Guy.

I'm gonna name my first son "Dickface"

I suggest naming someone Major Major Major, and then having them get promoted to Major (in the air force maybe).


--Andy

AndyDufresne wrote:I suggest naming someone Major Major Major, and then having them get promoted to Major (in the air force maybe).


--Andy

Meh, my son is only going to make it to Private.

He's going to be Private Dickface.





















also, yes, I know that's a Catch-22 reference.

Doesn't "Chris" basically translate to "Messiah" anyway?

Army of GOD wrote:I'm gonna name my first son "Dickface"

chip of the old block is he?

Symmetry wrote:Doesn't "Chris" basically translate to "Messiah" anyway?

I think it's more of a derivation of Christian or Christopher, which are not that uncommon as names in several European countries. They just denote the person as more of a follower of that guy who started a religion. I think the judge was just pissed off because this particular child was promoted so to speak, though it may have been in name only.

MeDeFe wrote:

Symmetry wrote:Doesn't "Chris" basically translate to "Messiah" anyway?

I think it's more of a derivation of Christian or Christopher, which are not that uncommon as names in several European countries. They just denote the person as more of a follower of that guy who started a religion. I think the judge was just pissed off because this particular child was promoted so to speak, though it may have been in name only.

it's basically "messiah" in Greek, no?

Symmetry wrote:

MeDeFe wrote:

Symmetry wrote:Doesn't "Chris" basically translate to "Messiah" anyway?

I think it's more of a derivation of Christian or Christopher, which are not that uncommon as names in several European countries. They just denote the person as more of a follower of that guy who started a religion. I think the judge was just pissed off because this particular child was promoted so to speak, though it may have been in name only.

it's basically "messiah" in Greek, no?

No, it's not. In the Greek Christopher means "one who bear Christ" in their heart.

patches70 wrote:

Symmetry wrote:

MeDeFe wrote:

Symmetry wrote:Doesn't "Chris" basically translate to "Messiah" anyway?

I think it's more of a derivation of Christian or Christopher, which are not that uncommon as names in several European countries. They just denote the person as more of a follower of that guy who started a religion. I think the judge was just pissed off because this particular child was promoted so to speak, though it may have been in name only.

it's basically "messiah" in Greek, no?

No, it's not. In the Greek Christopher means "one who bear Christ" in their heart.

And what would "Chris" translate to? That being my point and all that.

Symmetry wrote:And what would "Chris" translate to? That being my point and all that.

And Chris is the short form for "Christopher, Christine, Christian", none of which mean the same thing as Messiah.

Now, if you wanna name yourself Christós, then that would mean "Christ".

I mean really, you can look this stuff up for yourself, or just define things like you want I guess. But it's pretty clear where the given names come from and what they mean, but feel free to change the meanings on your own.

patches70 wrote:

Symmetry wrote:And what would "Chris" translate to? That being my point and all that.

And Chris is the short form for "Christopher, Christine, Christian", none of which mean the same thing as Messiah.

Now, if you wanna name yourself Christós, then that would mean "Christ".

I mean really, you can look this stuff up for yourself, or just define things like you want I guess. But it's pretty clear where the given names come from and what they mean, but feel free to change the meanings on your own.

I'm not sure what your objection is here. We're agreed that plenty of people go by Messiah in other languages, right?

Symmetry wrote:

patches70 wrote:

Symmetry wrote:And what would "Chris" translate to? That being my point and all that.

And Chris is the short form for "Christopher, Christine, Christian", none of which mean the same thing as Messiah.

Now, if you wanna name yourself Christós, then that would mean "Christ".

I mean really, you can look this stuff up for yourself, or just define things like you want I guess. But it's pretty clear where the given names come from and what they mean, but feel free to change the meanings on your own.

I'm not sure what your objection is here. We're agreed that plenty of people go by Messiah in other languages, right?

Yes, and Christos is the given and surnames of people and that means "Christ".

Chris is the given and surname of people that is the short from of Christopher, Christine, Christian and a few other names, all of which mean "follower of Christ".

It's not the same thing. You asked-

sym wrote:it's basically "messiah" in Greek, no?

and I was just answering that question, the answer being "no". MeDeFe is correct. Chris is a short version for other names.
Type in "Chris definition" into google and you'll get the correct answer.
Type in "Christopher (Christine, Christian) definition and see for yourself.
Type in "Christos definition and see.
Search for meaning of "given name Chris (Christopher, Christine, Christian, Christina, Crissy etc etc) meaning" and you'll see.

There are people who's given or surname is Christos and that certain means Christ in Greek. But Christopher, Christian, Christine and all the versions there of of those names, shorted or otherwise, don't mean Christ or Messiah, they mean followers of Christ. A distinct difference wouldn't you say?

Or not, define things as you will even though it's only you who defines such things that way. Maybe you can change the meanings of words for real one day. People are changing the meanings of words all the time.

patches70 wrote:

Symmetry wrote:

patches70 wrote:

Symmetry wrote:And what would "Chris" translate to? That being my point and all that.

And Chris is the short form for "Christopher, Christine, Christian", none of which mean the same thing as Messiah.

Now, if you wanna name yourself Christós, then that would mean "Christ".

I mean really, you can look this stuff up for yourself, or just define things like you want I guess. But it's pretty clear where the given names come from and what they mean, but feel free to change the meanings on your own.

I'm not sure what your objection is here. We're agreed that plenty of people go by Messiah in other languages, right?

Yes, and Christos is the given and surnames of people and that means "Christ".

Chris is the given and surname of people that is the short from of Christopher, Christine, Christian and a few other names, all of which mean "follower of Christ".

It's not the same thing. You asked-

sym wrote:it's basically "messiah" in Greek, no?

and I was just answering that question, the answer being "no". MeDeFe is correct. Chris is a short version for other names.
Type in "Chris definition" into google and you'll get the correct answer.
Type in "Christopher (Christine, Christian) definition and see for yourself.
Type in "Christos definition and see.
Search for meaning of "given name Chris (Christopher, Christine, Christian, Christina, Crissy etc etc) meaning" and you'll see.

There are people who's given or surname is Christos and that certain means Christ in Greek. But Christopher, Christian, Christine and all the versions there of of those names, shorted or otherwise, don't mean Christ or Messiah, they mean followers of Christ. A distinct difference wouldn't you say?

Or not, define things as you will even though it's only you who defines such things that way. Maybe you can change the meanings of words for real one day. People are changing the meanings of words all the time.

So your objection is that people who go by "Chris" must mean something else? I'm still unsure as to your objection to this.

Or hell, Sym, you can go to google translate and try these words-
1. Chris (Greek to English) (English to Greek)
2. Χριστός (Greek to English)
3. Christ (English to Greek)

Χριστός is "Christós".

In #1 you won't get anything at all.
But try #2 and #3 and see what happens. Chris is not short for "Christós" or "Χριστός", it's short for "Christopher" and other such given names.

Now, if you type in "Christós", use "detected language Latin", you'll get the Greek word Χριστός.
Use the world "Chris" and language detected Latin, and you'll get Greek "Chris". You won't get "Χριστός" or "Christós" or anything else.

Now for the fun in google translate-
Type in "Christopher", use detected language Latin and you'll get the word in Greek- "Χριστόφορος". Now take that word, put in in as detected language Greek, translate into English and you'll get-
"Christopher" which means "Follower of Christ".

You can get words to translate into "Christ" but you won't be able to get the word "Chris" to translate into "Christ". But do try!

Symmetry wrote:So your objection is that people who go by "Chris" must mean something else? I'm still unsure as to your objection to this.

I don't object at all. I'm only telling you that you thinking "Chris" means "Christ" is wrong. Chris does not mean "Christ" or "Messiah". Jesus, are you really this dense?
You are the one who is trying to say that Chris means "Christ" or "Messiah" and you are incorrect in that.

The only thing I object to is that you are wrong, and I don't object at all, you can be wrong all you'd like. I was just trying to correct you.

I should have known, never try to correct a fool.

Go ahead and say "Chris" or Christopher or whatever you want means whatever you want.

patches70 wrote:Or hell, Sym, you can go to google translate and try these words-
1. Chris (Greek to English) (English to Greek)
2. Χριστός (Greek to English)
3. Christ (English to Greek)

Χριστός is "Christós".

In #1 you won't get anything at all.
But try #2 and #3 and see what happens. Chris is not short for "Christós" or "Χριστός", it's short for "Christopher" and other such given names.

Now, if you type in "Christós", use "detected language Latin", you'll get the Greek word Χριστός.
Use the world "Chris" and language detected Latin, and you'll get Greek "Chris". You won't get "Χριστός" or "Christós" or anything else.

Now for the fun in google translate-
Type in "Christopher", use detected language Latin and you'll get the word in Greek- "Χριστόφορος". Now take that word, put in in as detected language Greek, translate into English and you'll get-
"Christopher" which means "Follower of Christ".

You can get words to translate into "Christ" but you won't be able to get the word "Chris" to translate into "Christ". But do try!

As fun as that sounds (and I do love the way google translate messes around with words), I have no idea why I'd want it to detect Latin for a word of Greek origin.

Out of interest, how does "Messiah" stand up in your search?

Symmetry wrote:Out of interest, how does "Messiah" stand up in your search?

Messiah means "The Anointed One" in Hebrew. Everyone knows that.

But Chris does not translate into "Christ", no matter how much you wish it did or think it does. Chris translates into Chris, short for Christopher, Christine, Christina, Christian. It's really as simple as that.