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Act Now! Your Very Own White Supremacist Town!

PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:07 am
by AndyDufresne
NY Times wrote:By JOHN ELIGON
Published: August 29, 2013


LEITH, N.D. — The bearded man with thinning, gray-and-bleach-blond hair flapping down his neck first appeared in this tiny agricultural town last year, quietly and inconspicuously roaming the crackly dirt roads.

Nettie Ketterling thought nothing of it when he came into her bar to charge his cellphone in an outlet beneath the mounted head of a mule deer. To Kenneth Zimmerman, the man was just another customer, bringing his blue Dodge Durango in for repairs. Bobby Harper did not blink when the man appeared in front of his house and asked him if he had any land to sell. And the mayor, Ryan Schock, was simply extending a civic courtesy when he swung by the man’s house to introduce himself.

Their new neighbor, they thought, was just another person looking to get closer to the lucrative oil fields in western North Dakota known as the Bakken.

But all that changed last week.

The Southern Poverty Law Center and The Bismarck Tribune revealed that the man, Paul Craig Cobb, 61, has been buying up property in this town of 24 people in an effort to transform it into a colony for white supremacists.

In the past two years, Mr. Cobb, a longtime proselytizer for white supremacy who is wanted in Canada on charges of promoting hatred, has bought a dozen plots of land in Leith (pronounced Leeth) and has sold or transferred ownership of some of them to a couple of like-minded white nationalists.

He is using Craigslist and white power message boards to entice others in the movement to take refuge in Leith, about two hours southwest of Bismarck. On one board, he detailed his vision for the community — an enclave where residents fly “racialist” banners, where they are able to import enough “responsible hard core” white nationalists to take control of the town government, where “leftist journalists or antis” who “come and try to make trouble” will face arrest.

The revelations have riveted this community and the surrounding area, drawing a range of reactions from disgust to disbelief to curiosity.

“If that man wanted to live in Leith and be a good neighbor and be decent and not push his thoughts on the people, then he could live there,” said Arlene Wells, 82, a farmer and local historian. “But to come in and want to change everything and be the big dog — no. I don’t like bulldogs.”

It is all people are talking about, in bars and in their homes, at funerals and at church. They are poking around on the Web to read Mr. Cobb’s positions for themselves. A stream of cars creep through the streets where horses occasionally trot, their passengers hoping to catch a glimpse of some action or take a peek at Mr. Cobb’s peeling, two-story clapboard home. Sheriff’s cars, too, are making more rounds.

This is not how residents wanted Leith to get back on the map. Founded in 1909, the town bustled in the middle of the century, a regional center for festivals, movies and skating. The population began slipping after peaking at 174 in 1930, but the death knell was the closing of the railroad some 30 years ago. Though the 2010 census said the population is 16, Mr. Schock puts it at 24, and the Leith Bar is the only one of the five remaining buildings on Main Street still open. Most lots are empty and overgrown, laden with high-flying grasshoppers, in this town that sits in a bowl surrounded by wheat and sunflower fields.

Mr. Cobb happened upon the community, he said, through an ad for the home he eventually bought on Craigslist. He paid a total of about $8,600 for the house and 12 plots, he said, making his first purchases in 2011. He moved here in May 2012, he said, after fleeing Canada in 2010 to avoid the criminal charges. He spent some time in Montana, before coming to North Dakota to find work in the oil patch. He said he lost his construction job last week after the story broke.

People have knocked on Mr. Cobb’s red door to offer to buy back his land and to preach the Gospel. The City Council is looking into potential ordinance or health code violations (his home has no septic tank or running water). There is a doomsday plan in place, Mr. Schock explained: If enough of Mr. Cobb’s friends move in to gain a majority that could vote out the current government, the Council would immediately dissolve the town.

Mr. Harper, Leith’s only black resident, said a lot of people approached him at his mother-in-law’s funeral on Monday to tell him they had his back.

“People told me to leave town for the weekend and they’d take care of everything,” he said.

But he and his wife, Sherrill — who found herself referred to as a “filthy race-mixing white woman” in one of Mr. Cobb’s online posts — said they were not going anywhere.

Mr. Cobb, meanwhile, seems to be soaking in the publicity and mocking it.

“Just want to let you know I’m not going to cause any trouble,” he said to Don Hauge, 61, who rolled up in a red Chevy pickup truck to where Mr. Cobb was sitting on a bench, peering through smudged rectangular glasses that slid down the bridge of his nose. Mr. Cobb is a lanky figure, dressed neatly in a button-down shirt tucked into slender black slacks he says he bought from someone who had stolen them, and rubber sandals.

In rapid-fire speech, Mr. Cobb cuts through a vast trove of facts and thoughts in his head, inevitably veering toward racial slurs. But he maintained a soft, calm tone, and was friendly when chatting with a black reporter who knocked on his door this week. He said he admired Louis Farrakhan because “he organizes people and they’re for themselves.”

But in that interview he also said that he hoped his plans in Leith would “excite” white people and “give them confidence because we’re being deracinated in our own country. We’ve been very, very tolerant about these major sociological changes.”

His beliefs began developing at an early age, he said — he read Hitler’s “Mein Kampf” when he was 11. To hear him tell it, he has had a colorful, nomadic life that has brought him face to face with James (Whitey) Bulger (the mob boss piloted the tugboat he rode to boarding school in Boston) and Barack Obama (he claims to have driven the future president in his taxi in Hawaii in the early 1980s).

It is difficult to tell whether Mr. Cobb wants or expects his vision for Leith to succeed.

Although he said that four fellow white nationalists have bought or acquired some of his plots, he said he did not know if or when they would be moving to the town, nor would he push the issue on them.

He gave the community’s run-down former meat locker and creamery to the National Socialist Movement. Jeff Schoep, the movement’s leader, said he was unsure how easy it would be for people, in a tough economy, to pack up and head to Leith. But he said he thought it was a fantastic idea to establish a community for white nationalists so they could have a safe place to land in a crisis — say, a civil war.

“I would like to see it prosper and move forward,” Mr. Schoep said. “People should move there and get the process going. It gives us a base of support for elections and things like that.”

But as Ms. Ketterling has been hearing from her bar patrons all week, residents would rather see the venture fail.

“They’re not happy,” she said. “We don’t like that kind of stuff.”


--Andy

Re: Act Now! Your Very Own White Supremacist Town!

PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:19 am
by betiko
hey, a bunch of violent super racists deciding to move to a completely isolated and boring place. any luck they could end up dying of boredom there?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:36 pm
by 2dimes
Hopefully it can once again become a regional center for skating.

Re: Act Now! Your Very Own White Supremacist Town!

PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:14 pm
by BigBallinStalin
At least it would be easier to spot the white supremacists, which reduces the costs of choosing not to support such groups. Thanks!

Re: Act Now! Your Very Own White Supremacist Town!

PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 3:59 pm
by Gillipig
Haven't there been made attempts like this by pedophile movements as well? I think I've read somewhere about pedophiles trying to set up a town where they could go about their business undisturbed.
Okay so here is a poll in the poll, what would you rather live in, a pedophile town or a white supremicist town?

Re: Act Now! Your Very Own White Supremacist Town!

PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:48 pm
by AndyDufresne
Gilli, what about white supremacist pedophiles?


--Andy

Re: Act Now! Your Very Own White Supremacist Town!

PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:06 pm
by Phatscotty
More worried about black supremacists in the department of homeland security than I am of some fantasies of a crazy white supremacist who I would guess does not have government clearance or is in charge of ammunition purchases for DHS.

This is the new civil rights movement of our time
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/ga ... 8/22/73677

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A gay-bashing black supremacist who advocates for the mass murder of whites and the “ethnic cleansing” of “black-skinned Uncle Tom race traitors” reportedly works for the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) as a small business specialist. While at work, Ayo Kimathi interfaces with small business owners, buying handcuffs, ammunition and guns. In his free time — and hopefully not at work — Kimathi allegedly calls himself “the Irritated Genie,” and runs a website called War on the Horizon (WOH). He refers to President Barack Obama as “a treasonous mulatto scum dweller … who will fight against reparations for Black people in amerikkka, but in favor of f*g rights for freaks in amerikkka and Afrika.” And he promises to “actively fight to remove every vestige of ‘homosexuality’ and pedophilia from our Race.”

Kimathi’s anti-gay hate and black supremacy advocacy are astonishing.

“Since we are the most valuable people alive and there is no need for this planet’s existence without us, it is time for us to prepare for the international war for Black survival,” Kimathi writes, claiming that white people are trying to inject homosexuality — “white sex,” as he calls it — into black culture.

“They are intentionally waging a war against the sexual sanity of Afrikan people around the globe. If we lose this battle, we lose the war and we will be exterminated. When we win this battle, it will mark the first victory in our war for world power and Black dominion.”

Re: Act Now! Your Very Own White Supremacist Town!

PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:23 pm
by AndyDufresne
Sorry, Phatscotty, this topic is for whites only.


--Andy

Re: Act Now! Your Very Own White Supremacist Town!

PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:43 pm
by Lootifer
Phatscotty wrote:More worried about black supremacists in the department of homeland security than I am of some fantasies of a crazy white supremacist who I would guess does not have government clearance or is in charge of ammunition purchases for DHS.

This is the new civil rights movement of our time
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/ga ... 8/22/73677

Image

A gay-bashing black supremacist who advocates for the mass murder of whites and the “ethnic cleansing” of “black-skinned Uncle Tom race traitors” reportedly works for the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) as a small business specialist. While at work, Ayo Kimathi interfaces with small business owners, buying handcuffs, ammunition and guns. In his free time — and hopefully not at work — Kimathi allegedly calls himself “the Irritated Genie,” and runs a website called War on the Horizon (WOH). He refers to President Barack Obama as “a treasonous mulatto scum dweller … who will fight against reparations for Black people in amerikkka, but in favor of f*g rights for freaks in amerikkka and Afrika.” And he promises to “actively fight to remove every vestige of ‘homosexuality’ and pedophilia from our Race.”

Kimathi’s anti-gay hate and black supremacy advocacy are astonishing.

“Since we are the most valuable people alive and there is no need for this planet’s existence without us, it is time for us to prepare for the international war for Black survival,” Kimathi writes, claiming that white people are trying to inject homosexuality — “white sex,” as he calls it — into black culture.

“They are intentionally waging a war against the sexual sanity of Afrikan people around the globe. If we lose this battle, we lose the war and we will be exterminated. When we win this battle, it will mark the first victory in our war for world power and Black dominion.”

-3/10

PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:01 pm
by 2dimes
If it were a Black Panther town all the white people would have been run off by now. This Cobb guy is an obvious amateur.

Re: Act Now! Your Very Own White Supremacist Town!

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:58 am
by Gillipig
AndyDufresne wrote:Gilli, what about white supremacist pedophiles?


--Andy

Candy and Icecream? I didn't know such a wonderful society could be created.

Re:

PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:29 pm
by GreecePwns
2dimes wrote:If it were a Black Panther town all the white people would have been run off by now.


Run off? If anything they leave on their own:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_flight

Re: Act Now! Your Very Own White Supremacist Town!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:18 am
by gannable
I don't agree with the roots of this guy's journey - ie Hitler, and he's likely anti-jewish, and he's hatefully racist.

But if someone wants to form a peaceful community consisting of people of their own race/nationality/religion then they should have every right to do so. However, you will be demonized by the media because nobody can have a contrary opinion to the propaganda shoved down your throat in this pathetic culture.

Re: Act Now! Your Very Own White Supremacist Town!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:59 am
by PLAYER57832
Phatscotty wrote:More worried about black supremacists in the department of homeland security than I am of some fantasies of a crazy white supremacist who I would guess does not have government clearance or is in charge of ammunition purchases for DHS.

This is the new civil rights movement of our time
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/ga ... 8/22/73677

Image

A gay-bashing black supremacist who advocates for the mass murder of whites and the “ethnic cleansing” of “black-skinned Uncle Tom race traitors” reportedly works for the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) as a small business specialist. While at work, Ayo Kimathi interfaces with small business owners, buying handcuffs, ammunition and guns. In his free time — and hopefully not at work — Kimathi allegedly calls himself “the Irritated Genie,” and runs a website called War on the Horizon (WOH). He refers to President Barack Obama as “a treasonous mulatto scum dweller … who will fight against reparations for Black people in amerikkka, but in favor of f*g rights for freaks in amerikkka and Afrika.” And he promises to “actively fight to remove every vestige of ‘homosexuality’ and pedophilia from our Race.”

Kimathi’s anti-gay hate and black supremacy advocacy are astonishing.

“Since we are the most valuable people alive and there is no need for this planet’s existence without us, it is time for us to prepare for the international war for Black survival,” Kimathi writes, claiming that white people are trying to inject homosexuality — “white sex,” as he calls it — into black culture.

“They are intentionally waging a war against the sexual sanity of Afrikan people around the globe. If we lose this battle, we lose the war and we will be exterminated. When we win this battle, it will mark the first victory in our war for world power and Black dominion.”

I would hardly call working as a small business specialist to be "infiltrating the government". It is concerning, absolutely. However, the same thing protect he as protects anyone else with "out there" ideas... the First Amendment of our constitution. In the case of the government, there are other specific provisions that protect an individual's right to disagree with both the government and the status quo.

That said, something tells me his power is already limited, and will be more so.. perhaps to the point of his job elimination. But, sometimes having a loose cannon where you can see them is easier than not. (who was it that said keep your friends close, your enemies even closer" ?)

Re: Act Now! Your Very Own White Supremacist Town!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:01 am
by PLAYER57832
AndyDufresne wrote:
NY Times wrote:By JOHN ELIGON
Published: August 29, 2013


LEITH, N.D. — The bearded man with thinning, gray-and-bleach-blond hair flapping down his neck first appeared in this tiny agricultural town last year, quietly and inconspicuously roaming the crackly dirt roads.

Nettie Ketterling thought nothing of it when he came into her bar to charge his cellphone in an outlet beneath the mounted head of a mule deer. To Kenneth Zimmerman, the man was just another customer, bringing his blue Dodge Durango in for repairs. Bobby Harper did not blink when the man appeared in front of his house and asked him if he had any land to sell. And the mayor, Ryan Schock, was simply extending a civic courtesy when he swung by the man’s house to introduce himself.

Their new neighbor, they thought, was just another person looking to get closer to the lucrative oil fields in western North Dakota known as the Bakken.

But all that changed last week.

The Southern Poverty Law Center and The Bismarck Tribune revealed that the man, Paul Craig Cobb, 61, has been buying up property in this town of 24 people in an effort to transform it into a colony for white supremacists.

In the past two years, Mr. Cobb, a longtime proselytizer for white supremacy who is wanted in Canada on charges of promoting hatred, has bought a dozen plots of land in Leith (pronounced Leeth) and has sold or transferred ownership of some of them to a couple of like-minded white nationalists.

He is using Craigslist and white power message boards to entice others in the movement to take refuge in Leith, about two hours southwest of Bismarck. On one board, he detailed his vision for the community — an enclave where residents fly “racialist” banners, where they are able to import enough “responsible hard core” white nationalists to take control of the town government, where “leftist journalists or antis” who “come and try to make trouble” will face arrest.

The revelations have riveted this community and the surrounding area, drawing a range of reactions from disgust to disbelief to curiosity.

“If that man wanted to live in Leith and be a good neighbor and be decent and not push his thoughts on the people, then he could live there,” said Arlene Wells, 82, a farmer and local historian. “But to come in and want to change everything and be the big dog — no. I don’t like bulldogs.”

It is all people are talking about, in bars and in their homes, at funerals and at church. They are poking around on the Web to read Mr. Cobb’s positions for themselves. A stream of cars creep through the streets where horses occasionally trot, their passengers hoping to catch a glimpse of some action or take a peek at Mr. Cobb’s peeling, two-story clapboard home. Sheriff’s cars, too, are making more rounds.

This is not how residents wanted Leith to get back on the map. Founded in 1909, the town bustled in the middle of the century, a regional center for festivals, movies and skating. The population began slipping after peaking at 174 in 1930, but the death knell was the closing of the railroad some 30 years ago. Though the 2010 census said the population is 16, Mr. Schock puts it at 24, and the Leith Bar is the only one of the five remaining buildings on Main Street still open. Most lots are empty and overgrown, laden with high-flying grasshoppers, in this town that sits in a bowl surrounded by wheat and sunflower fields.

Mr. Cobb happened upon the community, he said, through an ad for the home he eventually bought on Craigslist. He paid a total of about $8,600 for the house and 12 plots, he said, making his first purchases in 2011. He moved here in May 2012, he said, after fleeing Canada in 2010 to avoid the criminal charges. He spent some time in Montana, before coming to North Dakota to find work in the oil patch. He said he lost his construction job last week after the story broke.

People have knocked on Mr. Cobb’s red door to offer to buy back his land and to preach the Gospel. The City Council is looking into potential ordinance or health code violations (his home has no septic tank or running water). There is a doomsday plan in place, Mr. Schock explained: If enough of Mr. Cobb’s friends move in to gain a majority that could vote out the current government, the Council would immediately dissolve the town.

Mr. Harper, Leith’s only black resident, said a lot of people approached him at his mother-in-law’s funeral on Monday to tell him they had his back.

“People told me to leave town for the weekend and they’d take care of everything,” he said.

But he and his wife, Sherrill — who found herself referred to as a “filthy race-mixing white woman” in one of Mr. Cobb’s online posts — said they were not going anywhere.

Mr. Cobb, meanwhile, seems to be soaking in the publicity and mocking it.

“Just want to let you know I’m not going to cause any trouble,” he said to Don Hauge, 61, who rolled up in a red Chevy pickup truck to where Mr. Cobb was sitting on a bench, peering through smudged rectangular glasses that slid down the bridge of his nose. Mr. Cobb is a lanky figure, dressed neatly in a button-down shirt tucked into slender black slacks he says he bought from someone who had stolen them, and rubber sandals.

In rapid-fire speech, Mr. Cobb cuts through a vast trove of facts and thoughts in his head, inevitably veering toward racial slurs. But he maintained a soft, calm tone, and was friendly when chatting with a black reporter who knocked on his door this week. He said he admired Louis Farrakhan because “he organizes people and they’re for themselves.”

But in that interview he also said that he hoped his plans in Leith would “excite” white people and “give them confidence because we’re being deracinated in our own country. We’ve been very, very tolerant about these major sociological changes.”

His beliefs began developing at an early age, he said — he read Hitler’s “Mein Kampf” when he was 11. To hear him tell it, he has had a colorful, nomadic life that has brought him face to face with James (Whitey) Bulger (the mob boss piloted the tugboat he rode to boarding school in Boston) and Barack Obama (he claims to have driven the future president in his taxi in Hawaii in the early 1980s).

It is difficult to tell whether Mr. Cobb wants or expects his vision for Leith to succeed.

Although he said that four fellow white nationalists have bought or acquired some of his plots, he said he did not know if or when they would be moving to the town, nor would he push the issue on them.

He gave the community’s run-down former meat locker and creamery to the National Socialist Movement. Jeff Schoep, the movement’s leader, said he was unsure how easy it would be for people, in a tough economy, to pack up and head to Leith. But he said he thought it was a fantastic idea to establish a community for white nationalists so they could have a safe place to land in a crisis — say, a civil war.

“I would like to see it prosper and move forward,” Mr. Schoep said. “People should move there and get the process going. It gives us a base of support for elections and things like that.”

But as Ms. Ketterling has been hearing from her bar patrons all week, residents would rather see the venture fail.

“They’re not happy,” she said. “We don’t like that kind of stuff.”


--Andy

Weaver tried something similar up in Potter County, PA. He was eventually run out of there, though Northcentral PA is hardly a bastion of liberalism. (in that case, it was probably more because he just brought on too much attention than any other reason).

It sounds like the townspeople are able to take care of themselves. If not.. they will ask for, and receive, help.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:16 pm
by 2dimes

Re: Act Now! Your Very Own White Supremacist Town!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:18 pm
by AndyDufresne
I saw an NPR story about it as well. I think he wrote off the DNA test results as a conspiracy.


--Andy

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:19 pm
by 2dimes
Kind of took a turn toward Dave Chappell there.

Re: Act Now! Your Very Own White Supremacist Town!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:21 pm
by Anarkistsdream
http://rt.com/usa/white-black-republican-wins-533/

Here is the opposite and yet equally despicable version.

Re: Act Now! Your Very Own White Supremacist Town!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:32 pm
by AndyDufresne
My favorite part of that story:

Another tactic employed by Wilson was to employ another, fictional Wilson on his campaign literature: “Endorsed by Ron Wilson.” The trick was apparently meant to rein in the support of Houston’s longtime African-American voters by acting on the assumption that some other prominent black candidate was backing him.

But below those words on the leaflet it said: “Ron Wilson and Dave Wilson are cousins.” However, Ron Wilson is not a Houston politician, but simply Wilson’s cousin Ron, who lives in Iowa.



--Andy

Re: Act Now! Your Very Own White Supremacist Town!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:35 pm
by BigBallinStalin
Anarkistsdream wrote:http://rt.com/usa/white-black-republican-wins-533/

Here is the opposite and yet equally despicable version.


It's pretty humorous. Perhaps we have discovered the boundary of acceptable lies from politicians.

Re: Act Now! Your Very Own White Supremacist Town!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:01 pm
by mrswdk
gannable wrote:I don't agree with the roots of this guy's journey - ie Hitler, and he's likely anti-jewish, and he's hatefully racist.

But if someone wants to form a peaceful community consisting of people of their own race/nationality/religion then they should have every right to do so. However, you will be demonized by the media because nobody can have a contrary opinion to the propaganda shoved down your throat in this pathetic culture.


Haha. Kaching! +1

Re: Act Now! Your Very Own White Supremacist Town!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:33 pm
by mrswdk

Re: Act Now! Your Very Own White Supremacist Town!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:39 pm
by Anarkistsdream
mrswdk wrote:


Haha

Re: Act Now! Your Very Own White Supremacist Town!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:00 pm
by Phatscotty
politicians lie about who they are to get votes all the time. In an age where voters specifically choose candidates based on the color of their skin, this doesn't surprise me at all.

I can just hear the reactions...."What? HE'S WHITE????? I didn't want to vote for the WHITE guy!!!"