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Obama has ruined our economy...

Postby AAFitz on Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:57 pm

I hate you Obama...

When you took office, I had time to myself. Now however, Ive had one day off in the last three months. I'm getting calls for new work nearly every day. I am absolutely busier than I ever have been. Similarly, all my associates and co-contractors are busier than they ever have been so getting them is equally impossible. Everyone is super busy, everyone is working and can't get caught up.... the last time I remember an economy like this that Jackass Clinton was in office. I miss the Bush years, where I had to struggle to sell a job, could take some time off if I needed, and never had to worry about letting customers down, simply because I had too many of them.

Seriously man...you're killing me here....I need a damn day off.
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Re: Obama has ruined our economy...

Postby Serbia on Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:04 pm

Obviously, you work as a defense contractor gearing up for our next big military show-down, this time with the mighty Syrian army.

I'm on to you, warmonger.

Bollocks.
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Re: Obama has ruined our economy...

Postby Phatscotty on Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:04 pm

I got it!

You are an IRS agent readying for Obamacare implementation! I hear you guys are so busy, it has to be delayed yet another year.
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Re: Obama has ruined our economy...

Postby Night Strike on Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:09 pm

Nah, you guys are both wrong.

He's a private contractor who is stuck doing all the work because businesses refuse to have more than 49 full time employees but still need work to be done.
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Re: Obama has ruined our economy...

Postby AAFitz on Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:20 pm

So fun to watch supposed Americans make excuses for booming business. Not that I expect anything less from the usual suspects.

Anywhoo, I will say this...I know I am very lucky to be in the part of the country that I am, and I deeply feel for those who have not been as lucky, and as I said, I know what a bad economy is like and how hard it can be and thank GWB for that wonderful experience....
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Re: Obama has ruined our economy...

Postby Phatscotty on Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:26 pm

AAFitz wrote:So fun to watch supposed Americans make excuses for booming business. Not that I expect anything less from the usual suspects.

Anywhoo, I will say this...I know I am very lucky to be in the part of the country that I am, and I deeply feel for those who have not been as lucky, and as I said, I know what a bad economy is like and how hard it can be and thank GWB for that wonderful experience....


What part of the country is that, and what sector is your work in?

BTW, jobs grew every month for 5 years straight under Bush. How does Obama rank up to that? Just curious.
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Re: Obama has ruined our economy...

Postby oVo on Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:35 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
AAFitz wrote:BTW, jobs grew every month for 5 years straight under Bush.

Just curious, where did this "statistic" come from?
This is the first I've heard of GWB's jobs growth.

Also... I'm sure AAFitz is just feeling the effects
of Ronald Reagan's trickle down economics,
which are finally arriving.
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Re: Obama has ruined our economy...

Postby Night Strike on Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:37 pm

oVo wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
AAFitz wrote:BTW, jobs grew every month for 5 years straight under Bush.

Just curious, where did this "statistic" come from?
This is the first I've heard of GWB's jobs growth.


2002-2007

And that was after tax cuts were enacted. People just ignore it because of 2008.
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Re: Obama has ruined our economy...

Postby oVo on Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:42 pm

Was there much job growth outside the unregulated financial industry
and the investment groups in Connecticut and Wall Street?
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Re: Obama has ruined our economy...

Postby AAFitz on Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:43 pm

Thank you for surpassing my wildest expectations in this thread.

I hope others are enjoying the raging economy too. Sorry to see you guys have so much time to waste bashing it.... :lol:
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Re: Obama has ruined our economy...

Postby AAFitz on Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:45 pm

oVo wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
AAFitz wrote:BTW, jobs grew every month for 5 years straight under Bush.

Just curious, where did this "statistic" come from?
This is the first I've heard of GWB's jobs growth.

Also... I'm sure AAFitz is just feeling the effects
of Ronald Reagan's trickle down economics,
which are finally arriving.


You got your quote mixed up there, Phatsco said that, not me, but its obvious you're talking to him(I think)
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Re: Obama has ruined our economy...

Postby Night Strike on Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:51 pm

AAFitz wrote:Thank you for surpassing my wildest expectations in this thread.

I hope others are enjoying the raging economy too. Sorry to see you guys have so much time to waste basing it.... :lol:


If you look at every job number survey in the nation, you'll see that your position is the exception, not the rule. In any economy, there will always be exceptions: in a booming economy, some sectors will do poorly; in a sluggish economy, some sectors will boom. That's why we mentioned areas that might be doing well.....those directly supported by the government.
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Re: Obama has ruined our economy...

Postby BigBallinStalin on Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:07 pm

Interesting. So the only determinant of an economy is the President? Amazing! Let me tell those economists that all their models are wrong.

The end-all-be-all model for the economy is simply:

economy = f(president)

TA-DA!! AAFitz, you've completely changed economics! Incredible*!


    *incredible: 1.impossible to believe.
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Re: Obama has ruined our economy...

Postby oVo on Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:08 pm

Wall Street and the salaries of CEOs are doing extremely well in the current economy... so is there something to be learned there?
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Re: Obama has ruined our economy...

Postby Nobunaga on Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:08 pm

oVo wrote:Wall Street and the salaries of CEOs are doing extremely well in the current economy... so is there something to be learned there?


Get an education.
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Re: Obama has ruined our economy...

Postby Phatscotty on Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:36 pm

oVo wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
AAFitz wrote:BTW, jobs grew every month for 5 years straight under Bush.

Just curious, where did this "statistic" come from?
This is the first I've heard of GWB's jobs growth.


58 straight months of job growth after 9-11 from 2001-2006.

The statistic comes from history :D
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Re: Obama has ruined our economy...

Postby Phatscotty on Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:40 pm

oVo wrote:Wall Street and the salaries of CEOs are doing extremely well in the current economy... so is there something to be learned there?


Obama is the reason for the fat cat 1% record profits?
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Re: Obama has ruined our economy...

Postby Phatscotty on Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:46 pm

AAFitz wrote:Thank you for surpassing my wildest expectations in this thread.

I hope others are enjoying the raging economy too. Sorry to see you guys have so much time to waste bashing it.... :lol:


House prices are still down 50% from their peak, oil is over 100$ a barrel, interest rates are still at rock bottom, gas is almost 4$ a gallon, and our government is going DEEP into debt just to stay afloat. Nice raging economy

Imagine if house prices rose 50%, oil was 30$ a barrel and gas was 1.68 a gallon, wow the economy was REALLY be raging wouldn't it? That's exactly how things were....in 2003 2004 2005 2006
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Re: Obama has ruined our economy...

Postby Phatscotty on Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:48 pm

Night Strike wrote:
oVo wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
AAFitz wrote:BTW, jobs grew every month for 5 years straight under Bush.

Just curious, where did this "statistic" come from?
This is the first I've heard of GWB's jobs growth.


2002-2007


and then the Democrats took over Congress, didn't they....
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Re: Obama has ruined our economy...

Postby Dukasaur on Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:57 pm

AAFitz wrote:Thank you for surpassing my wildest expectations in this thread.

I hope others are enjoying the raging economy too. Sorry to see you guys have so much time to waste bashing it.... :lol:

About four or five months ago I was rolling through Hammond, Indiana, and the interstate was shut down because of a major accident. I got off to go around the delay, and not being very familiar with the area, I took a really circuitous route through the city.

What I saw along the way was truly horrific. Miles of depressed areas. In one section I counted 16 city blocks with nothing but boarded-up storefront. It was truly scary shit. I was thinking, "Has there been a nuclear war and I didn't notice? A plague? A zombie apocalypse?"

What you can see firsthand is very limiting. Don't get we wrong -- it can be useful, but only if you don't try to generalize beyond your horizon. What you see in your booming business and what I saw in along the I-94 there are both extremes, and neither of them represents the situation fairly.
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Re: Obama has ruined our economy...

Postby AAFitz on Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:07 am

Dukasaur wrote:
AAFitz wrote:Thank you for surpassing my wildest expectations in this thread.

I hope others are enjoying the raging economy too. Sorry to see you guys have so much time to waste bashing it.... :lol:

About four or five months ago I was rolling through Hammond, Indiana, and the interstate was shut down because of a major accident. I got off to go around the delay, and not being very familiar with the area, I took a really circuitous route through the city.

What I saw along the way was truly horrific. Miles of depressed areas. In one section I counted 16 city blocks with nothing but boarded-up storefront. It was truly scary shit. I was thinking, "Has there been a nuclear war and I didn't notice? A plague? A zombie apocalypse?"

What you can see firsthand is very limiting. Don't get we wrong -- it can be useful, but only if you don't try to generalize beyond your horizon. What you see in your booming business and what I saw in along the I-94 there are both extremes, and neither of them represents the situation fairly.


As I said, I fully understand some areas have been hit very well, and am simply thankful for the area I live in. I also, know the economy was crushed before Obama ever got there, and I think he's done what he could to keep it from continuing on the road it was put there, by simple minded, selfish fools.
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Re: Obama has ruined our economy...

Postby AAFitz on Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:09 am

Phatscotty wrote:
AAFitz wrote:Thank you for surpassing my wildest expectations in this thread.

I hope others are enjoying the raging economy too. Sorry to see you guys have so much time to waste bashing it.... :lol:


House prices are still down 50% from their peak, oil is over 100$ a barrel, interest rates are still at rock bottom, gas is almost 4$ a gallon, and our government is going DEEP into debt just to stay afloat. Nice raging economy

Imagine if house prices rose 50%, oil was 30$ a barrel and gas was 1.68 a gallon, wow the economy was REALLY be raging wouldn't it? That's exactly how things were....in 2003 2004 2005 2006


Yeah, and those inflated housing prices were fucking awesome...

too fuckin funny man...just keep em comin.
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Re: Obama has ruined our economy...

Postby AAFitz on Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:12 am

Night Strike wrote:
AAFitz wrote:Thank you for surpassing my wildest expectations in this thread.

I hope others are enjoying the raging economy too. Sorry to see you guys have so much time to waste basing it.... :lol:


If you look at every job number survey in the nation, you'll see that your position is the exception, not the rule. In any economy, there will always be exceptions: in a booming economy, some sectors will do poorly; in a sluggish economy, some sectors will boom. That's why we mentioned areas that might be doing well.....those directly supported by the government.


Well, I have no doubt how you will explain that private residential construction is being directly supported by government....so have at it...Im always a fan of your fiction, it makes for a great read every time. Original, creative, and passionate to the core.
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Re: Obama has ruined our economy...

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:22 am

AAFitz wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
AAFitz wrote:Thank you for surpassing my wildest expectations in this thread.

I hope others are enjoying the raging economy too. Sorry to see you guys have so much time to waste basing it.... :lol:


If you look at every job number survey in the nation, you'll see that your position is the exception, not the rule. In any economy, there will always be exceptions: in a booming economy, some sectors will do poorly; in a sluggish economy, some sectors will boom. That's why we mentioned areas that might be doing well.....those directly supported by the government.


Well, I have no doubt how you will explain that private residential construction is being directly supported by government....so have at it...Im always a fan of your fiction, it makes for a great read every time. Original, creative, and passionate to the core.


How much does the central bank dump into mortgage-backed securities?

How much does that affect residential construction?
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Re: Obama has ruined our economy...

Postby Phatscotty on Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:49 am

AAFitz wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
AAFitz wrote:Thank you for surpassing my wildest expectations in this thread.

I hope others are enjoying the raging economy too. Sorry to see you guys have so much time to waste bashing it.... :lol:


House prices are still down 50% from their peak, oil is over 100$ a barrel, interest rates are still at rock bottom, gas is almost 4$ a gallon, and our government is going DEEP into debt just to stay afloat. Nice raging economy

Imagine if house prices rose 50%, oil was 30$ a barrel and gas was 1.68 a gallon, wow the economy was REALLY be raging wouldn't it? That's exactly how things were....in 2003 2004 2005 2006


Yeah, and those inflated housing prices were fucking awesome...

too fuckin funny man...just keep em comin.


That's not the point. The point is, for whatever reason, or whatever your reaction, disposable income is less than half of what it was. I think to have a raging economy, people (more than the people you know in your area in your sector) need to have money to spend, but that's just a thought....

Can you handle any more "jokes"?
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